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There are plenty of vocational high schools in the US as well.
Much like what was described about European vocational schools.What is the curriculum? I haven't found one, except for the academic and vocational split studies typical of many US High Schools. Nothing that focuses mostly on vocational studies for High School aged students (16 to 18 years of age).
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Much like what was described about European vocational schools.
Thank you for proving you have no idea what you are talking about!Students having the option to take vocational classes is not what I would call "immersive".
Germany, Finland and other European countries tend provide a more vocationally focused approach for High School students wanting to acquire professional skills. Germany for instance has mobilized industry to provide apprenticeships and the vocational curriculum is designed in cooperation with the business community.
Finland has gone even further. Students are required to complete the first 9 years of general studies. Starting in the 10th grade (about 16 years of age) students can opt for what is called an "upper secondary vocational qualification".
Vocational schools in Finland prepare an individual curriculum for each student after review of the student's needs. The programs focus on vocational studies and incorporate work-based learning and apprenticeships. The primary focus of each program is to provide students with the competence necessary to work in their chosen field.
To complete an upper secondary vocational qualification students need to complete 180 competence points (one year of study is typically 60 competence points). Academic subjects are inserted into the "common units" but are a minority of each program's composition. Here is a breakdown of an upper secondary vocational qualification:
180 Competence points.
"The scope of common units in vocational upper secondary qualifications is 35 competence points out of 180."
"Vocational units
"Common units
- Basic and field specific study unit(s) (compulsory)
- Specialised study units (partly optional)
- Other optional units (decided by VET provider)
- Work-based learning is included"
It is a program of study for High School students which is focused on vocational education and what I would call much more immersive.
- Communication and interaction competence
- Mathematics and science competence
- Citizenship and working life competence"
Key figures on vocational education and training in Finland
The mission of vocational education and training in Finland is to provide high-quality and relevant education and training for all learners, be they young school leavers or adults. Continuous efforts are made to raise national standards of vocational competence, to foster the skills required in...www.oph.fi
Sorry but the details are in a pdf - I couldn't find an html version.
Care to point me to a link?
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Thank you for proving you have no idea what you are talking about!
You wouldn't call that "immersive" shows you do not understand the program or the meaning of the term immersive.
In Germany, students are tested to determine their academic path in their equivalent of high school. I would assume Finland does the same. In this country, the students are allowed the freedom to choose.
Just like ROTC is not required to pursue a military career, that doesn't prevent others from opting out. My son quit ROTC after one semester and pursued a vocational path in metalworking. Little did he know, he would enlist during his senior year and serve 8 years in the Army as an infantryman.
I went to a teacher's convention where a Colorado school built mobile homes on the school site and then sold them. Profits were used to fund Habitat for Humanity or similar charities. The structure of the home was built by the carpentry students, the plumbing was done by the plumbing students, and all the electrical work was done by the electrician students.
I'll bet you didn't think real world experience is provided in the school.
I still haven't figured out what this has to do with racism.
Thank you for proving you have no idea what you are talking about!
You wouldn't call that "immersive" shows you do not understand the program or the meaning of the term immersive.
In Germany, students are tested to determine their academic path in their equivalent of high school. I would assume Finland does the same. In this country, the students are allowed the freedom to choose.
Just like ROTC is not required to pursue a military career, that doesn't prevent others from opting out. My son quit ROTC after one semester and pursued a vocational path in metalworking. Little did he know, he would enlist during his senior year and serve 8 years in the Army as an infantryman.
I went to a teacher's convention where a Colorado school built mobile homes on the school site and then sold them. Profits were used to fund Habitat for Humanity or similar charities. The structure of the home was built by the carpentry students, the plumbing was done by the plumbing students, and all the electrical work was done by the electrician students.
I'll bet you didn't think real world experience is provided in the school.
I still haven't figured out what this has to do with racism.
In Jacksonville FL, where I taught for almost 10 years. the district has two full-time vocational schools that student can attend for all 4 years of high school. As far as the rest of the country, I would have no idea. Those determinations are made by local school boards. Why don't you run for school board so you can ensure your district has such a program in place?That you found a vocational school that provided learning-by-doing instruction is commendable but can you tell me how many "full-time vocational schools" exist dedicated to teaching High School age students in the US?
@Unkotare
Sent me info that I've been through before but highlights the problem regarding tracking of vocational schools and their performance:
"The National Assessment of Vocational Education (NAVE) recently found that most secondary vocational education is provided in comprehensive high schools, with vocational schools enrolling about 10 percent of secondary students and accounting for about 12 percent of vocational coursetaking.(6) Because of the limited capacity of available datasets to provide information on the three types of schools, this publication generally treats secondary vocational education as a single system.(7) "
Vocational Education in the US
nces.ed.gov
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Why do you limit it to full time? Vocational education students don't need core academic classes?That you found a vocational school that provided learning-by-doing instruction is commendable but can you tell me how many "full-time vocational schools" exist dedicated to teaching High School age students in the US?
@Unkotare
Sent me info that I've been through before but highlights the problem regarding tracking of vocational schools and their performance:
"The National Assessment of Vocational Education (NAVE) recently found that most secondary vocational education is provided in comprehensive high schools, with vocational schools enrolling about 10 percent of secondary students and accounting for about 12 percent of vocational coursetaking.(6) Because of the limited capacity of available datasets to provide information on the three types of schools, this publication generally treats secondary vocational education as a single system.(7) "
Vocational Education in the US
nces.ed.gov
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Why do you limit it to full time? Vocational education students don't need core academic classes?
Is someone ever going to explain what this has to do with racism?
In Jacksonville FL, where I taught for almost 10 years. the district has two full-time vocational schools that student can attend for all 4 years of high school. As far as the rest of the country, I would have no idea. Those determinations are made by local school boards. Why don't you run for school board so you can ensure your district has such a program in place?
I read it. I still don't see what it had to do with racism.See post #26.
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I read it. I still don't see what it had to do with racism.
Perhaps because I don't believe that is the reason why I didn't understand the relationship. Those who believe someone's IQ is racist obviously is not very intelligent themselves. Thank you for making the connection for me!Suggesting that students be grouped by IQ is considered racist by some people.
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No, it's not....
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