Rachel Carson: Political Icon

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Opened Google this morn, May 27th, and whose birthday is being celebrated?

Liberal icon, Rachel Carson!

For Liberalism, good intentions are what matters- not results. Based on that doctrine, Rachel Carson is perfect as the eco-Liberal version of Mother Teresa.
Millions of human beings are dead due to her influence.




1. "Rachel Louise Carson (May 27, 1907 – April 14, 1964) was an American marine biologistand conservationist whose book Silent Spring and other writings are credited with advancing the global environmental movement..... led to a nationwide ban on DDT and other pesticides, and it inspired a grassroots environmental movement that led to the creation of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Carson was posthumously awarded thePresidential Medal of Freedom by Jimmy Carter." Rachel Carson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. “…Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring," which in 1962 exposed the hazards of the pesticide DDT, eloquently questioned humanity's faith in technological progress and helped set the stage for the environmental movement….Silent Spring … meticulously described how DDT entered the food chain and accumulated in the fatty tissues of animals, including human beings, and caused cancer and genetic damage. …Carson concluded that DDT and other pesticides had irrevocably harmed birds and animals and had contaminated the entire world food supply.”
Silent Spring Summary | NRDC

3. Read the above, and apply this explanation to it:
“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”





4. On June 14, 1972, ....the EPA banned DDT despite considerable evidence of its safety offered in seven months of agency hearings. After listening to that testimony, the EPA's own administrative law judge declared, "DDT is not a carcinogenic hazard to man...DDT is not a mutagenic or teratogenic hazard to man...The use of DDT under the regulations involved here [does] not have a deleterious effect on freshwater fish, estuarine organisms, wild birds or other wildlife."
Today environmental activists celebrate the EPA's DDT ban as their first great victory. Silent Spring at 40 - Reason.com

a. “The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it’s the seriousness of the charge that matters.” Tom Foley, Democrat, Former Speaker of the House.





5. British politician Dick Taverne was damning in his criticism of Carson:
Carson didn't seem to take into account the vital role (DDT) played in controlling the transmission of malaria by killing the mosquitoes that carry the parasite (...) It is the single most effective agent ever developed for saving human life (...)

Rachel Carson is a warning to us all of the dangers of neglecting the evidence-based approach and the need to weight potential risk against benefit: it can be argued that the anti-DDT campaign she inspired was responsible for almost as many deaths as some of the worst dictators of the last century. Taverne, Dick (2005). "The Harm That Pressure Groups Can Do".
In Feldman, Stanley; Marks, Vincent. "Panic Nation."

6. Annual worldwide cases of acute illness due to malaria: 300-500 million
Annual worldwide deaths due to malaria: 1.1-2.7 million, mostly among children under five years of age http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/documents/GlobalBurdenofMalaria.pdf

a. Carson’s book was dismissed in ‘Science’ magazine as a “prosecuting attorney’s impassioned plea for action,” not a book based on scientific data.
I.L.Baldwin, “Chemicals and Pests,” Science, September 28, 1962, p.1042-1043.

b. “Sixty million people have died needlessly of malaria, since the imposition of the 1972 ban on DDT, and hundreds of millions more have suffered from this debilitating disease. The majority of those affected are children.” Bring Back DDT!




Once again, a danger of Liberalism revealed.
Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away....For such individuals, feeling often passes for knowing.
 
So.....you don't like her because she showed DDT was bad for you. ..what...the....fuck?
 
Progressives are often narrow minded and short sighted. They rarely look at the really big picture to see what the long term effects of their small-minded agenda(s) will mean to future generations. They force their personal ideals on an unsuspecting populace and get a little gold medal then they die while the rest of the planet has to suffer with their long term idiocy.
 
Of course you assholes are complete liars.

The DDT Story | Pesticide Action Network

Attacks on Carson from groups like The Competitive Enterprise Institute and Africa Fighting Malaria portray DDT as the simple solution to malaria, and blame Carson for “millions of deaths in Africa.” Many of these DDT promoters are also in the business of denying climate change and defended the tobacco industry by denying the health harms of smoking.

Human Health Harms
The science on DDT's human health impacts has continued to mount over the years, with recent studies showing harm at very low levels of exposure. Studies show a range of human health effects linked to DDT and its breakdown product, DDE:

breast & other cancers
male infertility
miscarriages & low birth weight
developmental delay
nervous system & liver damage

No 'Silver Bullet' for Malaria Control
The only remaining legal use of DDT is to control malaria-carrying mosquitoes. A devastating disease, malaria kills more than 800,000 people every year, the majority of deaths among children in Sub-Saharan Africa. Indoor spraying with DDT is one of a number of tools being used to control malaria around the world. Only in rare cases is it the most effective choice.

DDT is still used in Africa. Often, however, it is of limited effectiviness because mosquitoes have developed immunity to it because of overuse.

Of all the 'Conservative' lie campaigns, this is one of the most persistant, and those who use it demonstrate the depths of their abysmal ignorance. And, you, PC, are certainly one of the most ignorant on this board.
 
So.....you don't like her because she showed DDT was bad for you. ..what...the....fuck?




And so we hear from the poster who was used to getting free buffet coupons and frequent flier miles for trips to the last seat in the dumb row.




Perennially in the running for "Most Stupid Poster of the Year," you have certainly advanced your chances for this year's award.


1. If you could actually comprehend the OP...which I even doubt you even perused, you should have noticed that Carson's work was found to be far from scientifically accredited.

2. I tend to have a deep and abiding dislike for those responsible for the deaths of millions of human beings.
Call me silly.....


3. When the time comes.....you've got my vote.
 
And over the years, Rachel Carson will be remembered for alerting us to the dangers of DDT and other pesticides, while her detractors will only be remembered as some loons.
 
Malaria ain't fun folks, i once got it thru some training exercises in the Philippines, i had a temperature of 107, the medics plunged me in and out of an alcohol/ice water bath until my temp got down to 100.5, at that time "American Pie" was the most popular song on the ship, it was played end to end all day and night long..., at least it seemed that way to me, for the next 5 days my temp spiked to 105.8 about TEN times or more, the hallucinations when temp hit high points were utterly weird :up:


Malaria ain't fun !!
 
See, this is the kind of topic where you need to remember that conservative ideas don't always look as crackpot as they are because they are only ideas; conservatives rarely have enough votes to implement them in real life.

Imagine the wasteland America would be if conservatives had enough votes to fully implement their anti-environmentalist agenda.
 
So the author of this thread would like to resume spraying crops in the US with DDT in order to save babies in Africa?

That's quite a trick.
 
So the author of this thread would like to resume spraying crops in the US with DDT in order to save babies in Africa?

That's quite a trick.



the point is and was it isnt as dangerous as you left-wing nutjobs made it out to be; not in Africa OR here


less dangerous is less dangerous leftard

try to keep up
 
See, this is the kind of topic where you need to remember that conservative ideas don't always look as crackpot as they are because they are only ideas; conservatives rarely have enough votes to implement them in real life.

Imagine the wasteland America would be if conservatives had enough votes to fully implement their anti-environmentalist agenda.

You seem to be ever so cavalierly and disrespectfully and idiotically dismiss that vast "wasteland" between the coasts, where most people are conservatives and Republicans, and hard working, putting food on your undeserving table.
 

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