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Rabbis forced the Romans to crucify Jesus

Ria_Longhorn

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Well, according to the Bible, the Jews had him crucified.

Ain't been to Sunday School lately?
Actually, it was the gentiles who murdered Jewish Jesus:

"And they were in the way going up to Jerusalem; and Jesus went before them: and they were amazed; and as they followed, they were afraid. And he took again the twelve, and began to tell them what things should happen unto him,

Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:

And they [i.e., Gentiles] shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall KILL HIM [emphasis mine]: and the third day he shall rise again." -- Matthew 20:17-19

"Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be handed over to the chief priests and the scribes, and they will condemn him to death and hand him over to the GENTILES who will mock him, spit upon him, scourge him, and PUT HIM TO DEATH ..." -- Mark 10: 33,34 [Emphasis mine]
 

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The money changers weren't Romans.
The money changers weren't the ones who crucified Jesus. Take a guess who?
 

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According to the New Testament, the Jews had Jesus crucified.

Now go apologize to your Sunday School teacher.
I don't have a Sunday school teacher---I was
in Sunday school a few dozen times as a guest, not a student
 

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The Sanhedrin demanded that the Romans crucify Jesus. What is your issue?
not true------but it is not at all inconsistent
with the filth of islamo nazi propaganda
 

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The Sanhedrin demanded that the Romans crucify Jesus. What is your issue?
If you're starting a new religion with zero requirements you have to make the current religion look bad.
 

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not true------but it is not at all inconsistent
with the filth of islamo nazi propaganda
for those confused----surada is engaging in wishful thinking---which would include her
HOPE that the Sanhedrin at that time was
infected with the filth and stench of Rome. In
fact its members were pharisees who COMPLETELY AND ABSOLUTELY rejected crucifixion as the barbaric roman filth that
it was------it was PROSCRIBED absolutely by
religion. The disgusting practice was Roman,
Greek, Persian-----but never jewish. Of course
if the Sanhedrin WANTED someone dead----it
would have no trouble effectuating such an event without engaging in THOSE CUSTOMS that Romans cherished
 

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So rewrite the scriptures.
the Nicean council under the influence of Roman
Emperor Constantine already compiled and redacted the notes on which it is based. Read it
again ---the deceptions are OBVIOUS
 

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the Nicean council under the influence of Roman
Emperor Constantine already compiled and redacted the notes on which it is based. Read it
again ---the deceptions are OBVIOUS

That was much later.

The 'Sanhedrin' in the New Testament - The Sanhedrin English


The TalmudExcerpt from "The Trial of Jesus"Christian TraditionsExternal Links
The Talmud contains no discussion of the sect's origins, yet medieval Christian censors removed a story from the Talmud on the grounds that it disparages Yeshua. According to Christian versions of Yeshua's life, however, that supposition is an impossibility. The Talmudic account speaks of an incident with Rabbi Yehoshua ben Perachiah and an apostate student of his named Yeshu, in which the student was guilty of deplorable behavior. But the incident under discussion occurred under the oppressive reign of King Yan…
 
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See below "Excepts from 'The Trial of Jesus' "

Rabbinic Judaism rejects any connection with the trial of Jesus with or without a "sanhedrin". Modern Judaism is called Rabbinic Judaism and claims descent from the Pharisees, a group at odds with the Sadducees.

It is possible that the trial was as a Sadducean illegal court, or perhaps the details as we know them today are incomplete or inaccurate. Josephus (Ant. 20:9, etc) generally portrays the Sadducees as antagonistic to early Christianity, while the New Testament (John 3:2, Acts 5:34, etc) portrays Pharisees as being tolerant (see Acts 23:6 for both roles).

The role of the Sadducees in trying and executing early Christians is explicitly referenced in Josephus. In 62 CE the Jewish priest and Sadducee, Ananus, convened the Sanhedrin in his house and condemned Yaakov [James], half-brother of Yeshua, who is then summarily executed.[Josephus, ibid]

Excerpt from "The Trial of Jesus"
Excerpt from "The Trial of Jesus" by Douglas Linder of the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law:

Around 200 C.E., Sanhedrin becomes a technical term for a rabbinic court. A tractate in the Mishnah prescribes procedures the Sanhedrin is to use. The excerpts below, taken from the Mishnah Tractate, may shed light on the procedures used in the case of Jesus. One caution, however: the Mishnah was not compiled until 200, and it is therefore possible that some of the procedures and restrictions described in the Mishnah Tractate were not in force in the time of Jesus.

The gospel of John indicates that the Sanhedrin turned Jesus over to Pilate because it lacked the power to impose death: "Pilate said to them, 'Take him yourselves and judge him according to your law.' The Jews replied, 'We are not permitted to put anyone to death.'" The Mishnah, however, clearly shows that the Sanhedrin did have the power to impose death for certain crimes--at least sometime before 200 C.E. In particular, Mishnah Sanhedrin 6.1 to 6.4 specify the procedures for stoning. There is no evidence to suggest that the power did not exist in 30 C.E. On the contrary, there is evidence that the Romans preferred to leave as much power as possible to control religious crimes in the hands of Jewish authorities.
 

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