Yes he was, in 2016 Shokin raided and seized burisma owners house, and many of his holdings. Also named hunter Biden as POI. After this American Burisma lobbyist petitioned state department to stop the investigations. THEEEEENNNNN joe Biden pressured poroshenko to fire Shokin.
The debates will decide nothing.
I was a Bernie supporter less than 5 years ago who voted for Jill Stein. Do you think that I knew I'd be voting for Trump in 2020 ? I'm only one of a growing number of Americans who see through the Dems for who they are now.
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Shokin wasn't going to do shit. He had not done shit the whole time. That's why his own parliament voted him out....shokin was going to subpoena Hunter Biden for questioning. Now that doesnāt mean Hunter is also guilty of corruption but itās funny that thatās when Biden wanted to oust him, and admittedly held up 1 billion in aid to do so. All after his administration praised Skokins plan. Itās also funny how the investigation into the burisma oligarch disappeared after Shokin was ousted. The strawman that leftist media keep pushing is that the claim is Hunter was part of the corruption, which is not the claim. The claim is that hunter and his last name were used to shield burisma from investigations. Investigations that were active from Shokin in Feb 2016. Whatever youāre reading is either a lie or referring to the UK investigation. Like one guy in the Ukraine says the investigation was dormant and the media runs with it as āfactualā. Crazy.
Court seizes property of ex-minister Zlochevsky in Ukraine
The movable and immovable property of former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine Mykola Zlochevsky in Ukraine has been seized, according to the press service of the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine (PGO).en.interfax.com.ua
Cleary the investigation was active in 2016, and Shokin claims hunter Biden was to be questioned. Around that time American burisma lobbyist petition state department to pressure an end to the burisma investigation.
And then Biden pressures the Ukraine to fire Shokin.
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February 2016 State Department memos released under FOIA showing efforts by Karen Tramontano to seek a meeting about Burisma corruption allegations.www.scribd.com
And again I havenāt heard the slightest indicator that Shokin was corrupt. On the tape poroshenko says heās not, again itās not a validated tape, but I doubt deep fakes are that good yet. Shokin also claims he has plenty of evidence from his government showing heās not corrupt. And letās not forget, the Ukrainian equivalent to the DOJ is actually investigating this and names āAmerican 1ā, basically admitted is Biden, as a possible defendant. So thereās something substantial there
You don't see anything but lies trump is telling you.
Except it was more than just him. The EU, IMF, US Congress, UK government, Ukrainian parliament, all wanted him gone. This stuff you are repeating is a trump manufactured lie. Plain and simple.A top U.S. diplomat and expert on Ukraine testified to Congress yesterday that the Obama administration ā with former Vice President Joe Biden as its point man ā orchestrated the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating a company connected to the Biden family, sources familiar with the testimony told The Federalist.
The testimony of George Kent, a State Department official who works on the agencyās Ukraine portfolio, directly contradicts claims that the Obama administration was merely following the lead of the so-called international community in demanding the firing of Viktor Shokin, a controversial Ukrainian prosecutor who was reportedly investigating Burisma, a global energy company long suspected of corruption and money laundering. In 2014, Burisma paid Hunter Biden, Joe Bidenās son, tens of thousands of dollars to sit on its board despite the younger Bidenās complete lack of expertise or professional experience running a multi-national oil and gas concern.
Kent told lawmakers on Tuesday that the Obama administration spearheaded the efforts to have Shokin removed from his position as the top federal prosecutor in Ukraine. Kent said the international community ā namely the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and Western nations within the European Union ā were deferential to U.S. directives on the matter. At a 2018 event organized by the Council on Foreign Relations, Joe Biden ā who was tasked by then-President Barack Obama to lead the U.S. governmentās efforts in Ukraine ā bragged about threatening to withhold a billion-dollar loan guarantee if the Ukrainian government refused to fire Shokin.
Diplomat Testified Obama Admin Orchestrated Ukraine Prosecutor's Ouster
A top U.S. diplomat testified yesterday that the Obama admin orchestrated the ouster of the Ukraine prosecutor investigating a Biden-connected company.
George Kent was one of the guys that the Dems interviewed in their impeachment proceedings. Are we to believe he's lying? Why was Biden so anxious to get rid of Shokin in particular? Nobody else, just him? Why?
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Raiding his house is a dramatic overstatement. Zlochevskyās property has been seized by Ukrainian officials years before. The order allowing the seizure expired and the law changed a bit. There was public outcry about the expiration and so he filed an order to put it back under their control. There was no āraidā. They were no exercising a search warrant or looking for documents. It was merely a court order to take ownership.
unfortunately "dramatic over statements" have become far too normal.
Shady companies put respectable people on their boards to help their reputation. Burisma was making a shift towards western alignment along with the rest of Ukraine."Biden has faced scrutiny since December 2015, when the New York Times published a story noting that Burisma hired Hunter Biden just weeks after the vice president was asked by President Obama to oversee U.S.-Ukraine relations. r.That story also alerted Bidenās office that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin had an active investigation of Burisma and its founder."
So, was the NY Times lying?
"At the time, Shokinās office was investigating Burisma. Shokin told me he was making plans to question Hunter Biden about $3 million in fees that Biden and his partner, Archer, collected from Burisma through their American firm. Documents seized by the FBI in an unrelated case confirm the payments, which in many months totaled more than $166,000.
Some media outlets have reported that, at the time Joe Biden forced the firing in March 2016, there were no open investigations. Those reports are wrong. A British-based investigation of Burisma's owner was closed down in early 2015 on a technicality when a deadline for documents was not met. But the Ukraine Prosecutor General's office still had two open inquiries in March 2016, according to the official case file provided me. One of those cases involved taxes; the other, allegations of corruption. Burisma announced the cases against it were not closed and settled until January 2017."
So, was Shokin actually investigating Burisma or not? Some say yes, but others say no.
After I first reported it in a column, the New York Times and ABC News published similar stories confirming my reporting.
Joe Biden has since responded that he forced Shokinās firing over concerns about corruption and ineptitude, which he claims were widely shared by Western allies, and that it had nothing to do with the Burisma investigation."
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Bidenās Ukraine story
Hundreds of pages of never-released memos and documents ā many from inside the American team helping Burisma to stave off its legal troubles ā conflict with Joe Bidenās narā¦
"U.S. banking records show Hunter Bidenās American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts ā usually more than $166,000 a month ā from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia."
Joe Bidenās 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
Biden persuaded Ukraine to fire its prosecutor while he was investigating a natural gas firm that employed Bidenās son on its board.
Ask yourself an honest question: why in hell would a natural gas company spend that kind of money to somebody who knows nothing about natural gas or about Ukraine? Especially a company with a reputation for corruption? Only one answer I can come up with: they paid that money to a guy who's father was the Vice President of the United States.
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Iād like to stay on the topic rather than meander down another road of āboth-siderismā.
So you are saying then it's cool people call flynn treasonous? isn't that a bit much? to me the topic IS that we way overstate things all around. getting mad at one side doing it is pointless but carry on. I will bow out.
If you have nothing to say about the topic, bowing out would be the most useful thing you could do.
I did have something to say. you just didn't like it.
You wanted to make me the topic. I want to stay on topic. Is that too much to ask?
