Questions for Kamara supporters

[initforme]

This is crazy. Raising the minimum wage means fewer jobs and/or higher prices. If you force higher wages then the employer has to find ways to make up the difference in higher labor costs. Generally that means higher prices that in some industries results in fewer jobs or less hours worked or lower benefits. And in some cases the employer goes out of business and none of that helps the economy.

There is a basic rule in business that money flows to where it makes the greatest return on investment. If the expected profit isn't enough to make the enterprise worthwhile, then you won't get new business startups or business expansions and that is definitely not good for economic growth. That's just the way it is.

Yep. That's the way it is. But nobody has to be working for low wages. So when nobody applies for those jobs it's a win all across the board.

 

[task0778]

So when nobody applies for those jobs it's a win all across the board.

You really think so? A kid just out of high school with no marketable skills should be making a living wage? And if they don't get a living wage job and are unemployed, you think that is a win? For who exactly? Certainly not for the kid.

 

[initforme]

You really think so? A kid just out of high school with no marketable skills should be making a living wage? And if they don't get a living wage job and are unemployed, you think that is a win? For who exactly? Certainly not for the kid.

Employers should struggle to find people to work for them.

 

[jc456]

There is nothing in the constitution about political parties.

There’s election laws

 

[task0778]

Employers should struggle to find people to work for them.

They already are, for many jobs that require certain skills. But not for unskilled labor, I see no logic there. If you pay $20/hr or whatever you chose as the minimum, do you not see how inflationary that is?

I'm curious, do you see a point where the minimum wage is too high? $20/hr? $50/hr? $100/hr? Do you see a tipping point anywhere? How high would you go? Do you think it should be the same everywhere? The same wage in Mississippi as in New York City? You do realize that prices would be commensurate with the rise in labor costs, right?

 

[initforme]

They already are, for many jobs that require certain skills. But not for unskilled labor, I see no logic there. If you pay $20/hr or whatever you chose as the minimum, do you not see how inflationary that is?

I'm curious, do you see a point where the minimum wage is too high? $20/hr? $50/hr? $100/hr? Do you see a tipping point anywhere? How high would you go? Do you think it should be the same everywhere? The same wage in Mississippi as in New York City? You do realize that prices would be commensurate with the rise in labor costs, right?

I don't think we need a minimum wage. Workers aren't goingbto show up for pittance wages so I'm fine with employers having to offer whatever it takes to find a worker. If nobody applies for a job vacancy that's a good thing as the job is undesirable so to get someone to do it should cost more. No set wage law is needed. The employers hand is forced. Capitalism at its best.

 

[bdtex]

Trump, House Republicans plot to kill border deal​

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Jan 29, 2024 — But House Republicans — egged on by former President Trump — already are planning to shut it down. State of play: Illegal immigration has ...

Republicans kill border bill in a sign of Trump's strength ...​

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Feb 7, 2024 — Mitch McConnell pushed Senate Republicans to pass a bipartisan immigration and Ukraine aid deal. Encouraged by Donald Trump, they killed it ...

There it is.

 

[beagle9]

Our borders are not open. But millions of immigrants have been wonderful for this country.

The US under Biden/Harris has had the lowest inflation and quickest recovery of any nation in the world. And inflation was caused by the COVID pandemic, not Biden.

Socialism already works quite well in America

I think everyone inside the borders of the United States deserves the same rights and privileges as everyone else. So does the Constitution. With the single exception of the vote, none of our Constitutional civil rights are restricted to citizens.

There is no intelligence qualification to be president. Donald Trump, George W Bush and Ronald Reagan were all presidents and I'm quite certain the VP Harris is smarter than any of them.

Campaign strategy. Why does Donald Trump choose to be an ignorant, racist, bigotted, misogynistic 5th grader?

Who is Kamara?

Why do you want to call Trump name's like you are a 5th grader ? Hypocrite much ?

Yeah Trump fights back, and he has every right too, and in any demeaning way that he pleases, and especially so after what the leftist have done to him (including), trying to allegedly assassinate him.

Please stop embarrassing yourselves already..

 

[beagle9]

You're gonna need to explain that one.

Easy, get your young and up and coming to enter the workforce instead of being stupid activist not truly knowing the cause they are lifting up, and how many are being killed by empowering causes that aren't compatible with the working class families in this nation... All I can say is Houston we have one hellacious scandal at play in this election, just like it was the last time we had such thing's going on after we began to give into the bull chit.

 

[task0778]

I don't think we need a minimum wage. Workers aren't goingbto show up for pittance wages so I'm fine with employers having to offer whatever it takes to find a worker. If nobody applies for a job vacancy that's a good thing as the job is undesirable so to get someone to do it should cost more. No set wage law is needed. The employers hand is forced. Capitalism at its best.

My problem is when the gov't requires a minimum wage. Employers might have to pay more for certain jobs to get workers, and that is their choice to make. But it should not be mandated by the gov't to pay workers more than they are willing to work for. IMHO, the gov't has no business interfering between the labor contract between an employer and a worker.

 

[skye]

actions during the last 3 1/2 years prove it

Yup! ^^

 

[pknopp]

Why do liberals aleays conflate lawful immigrants, who are a benefit to the country, with illegal aliens, who are a harm to the country. Do they really think people are too stupid to know the difference?

It was you doing that when claiming that illegal immigrants were getting luxury hotel rooms.

Take your own advice. (Not that you will)

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

There it is.

Good guess.
You figured that out, all by yourself?

 

[Lisa558]

It was you doing that when claiming that illegal immigrants were getting luxury hotel rooms.

Take your own advice. (Not that you will)

I said UPSCALE hotel rooms, which was true. They are not being put up in Motel 6 and Ramada Inn.

And these entitled ILLEGALS have the gall to DEMAND that they continue to be able to stay in hotels, rather than move to the shelter set up at the port?!

They are showing us that they feel ENTITLED to stay in hotels - at the expense of honest American taxpayers! Are these the type of “immigrants” we want in this country - unskilled, uneducated, unable to support themselves, who have no qualms about making demands that Americans provide for them in the manner they, the immigrants, deem meets their standards?

Send them back. They are showing us what type of “citizen” they will be - dependent on welfare and demanding more, more, more.

 

[pknopp]

I said UPSCALE hotel rooms, which was true. They are not being put up in Motel 6 and Ramada Inn.

And they are not illegals.

And these entitled ILLEGALS have the gall to DEMAND that they continue to be able to stay in hotels, rather than move to the shelter set up at the port?!

They are showing us that they feel ENTITLED to stay in hotels - at the expense of honest American taxpayers! Are these the type of “immigrants” we want in this country - unskilled, uneducated, unable to support themselves, who have no qualms about making demands that Americans provide for them in the manner they, the immigrants, deem meets their standards?

Send them back. They are showing us what type of “citizen” they will be - dependent on welfare and demanding more, more, more.

Even when shown the facts you insist on doubling down on the lies.

 

[Lisa558]

And they are not illegals.

Yes they are. The new word “migrant” doesn’t fool anyone. Anyone caught breaking into the country is an illegal alien.

Even when shown the facts you insist on doubling down on the lies.

Even when I point out the entitled attitude of the illegals staging a sit-in and refusing to move out of the hotel - and to the shelter the mayor told them to - you ignore the awful behavior of these people.

Anything for another 10 million future Democrat voters, eh?

 

[Dragonlady]

Illegal immigration was at a 40 year low under Trump, Dufus.

Allowing people to pile up on the Mexican side of border isn't "reducing illegal immigration". It forced people to cross illegally, which was Trump's plan all along.

Yes, when Trump took office - after 8 years of Obama prosecuting employers, and reducing illegal border crossings, they were at a 50 year low. But as soon as Trump stopped prosecuting employers, the numbers started rising and 2 years later they were so high that Trump declared a National Emergency at the Southern Border in February of 2019. His policies were an utter failure.

But that was the plan. Trump couldn't get money for a border wall if illegal crossings were so low, so Trump set out to cause a crisis he could fix by building the wall.

 

[pknopp]

Yes they are. The new word “migrant” doesn’t fool anyone. Anyone caught breaking into the country is an illegal alien.

They weren't caught. They came to the border.

Legal.

 

[Dragonlady]

I said UPSCALE hotel rooms, which was true. They are not being put up in Motel 6 and Ramada Inn.

And these entitled ILLEGALS have the gall to DEMAND that they continue to be able to stay in hotels, rather than move to the shelter set up at the port?!

They are showing us that they feel ENTITLED to stay in hotels - at the expense of honest American taxpayers! Are these the type of “immigrants” we want in this country - unskilled, uneducated, unable to support themselves, who have no qualms about making demands that Americans provide for them in the manner they, the immigrants, deem meets their standards?

Send them back. They are showing us what type of “citizen” they will be - dependent on welfare and demanding more, more, more.

You are a lying whore for Trump. You hate your own people. You're disgusting.

 

[Mac1958]

Yup! ^^





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Out of curiosity, do you have any facts or links to back up those claims? Any of them?

I know that the first six of those claims are untrue, if not more of them. But maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure you have proof.

No doubt you do, otherwise you wouldn't have posted that. Right?

Looking forward to verifiable proof. Thanks in advance.