Questioning The Definition of 'Religion'

[PoliticalChic]

In Orwell's famed allegory, 'Animal Farm,' we learned that
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

Clearly, when one uses the term 'religion,' the same warning must be followed.


1. "Germany: Christian Refugees Persecuted by Muslims

• Thousands of Christians in German refugee shelters are being persecuted by Muslims, sometimes even by their security guards, according to a new report by the NGO Open Doors.
• "A major obstacle to the survey was that many victims were afraid to participate. ... Their concern was not only on the possible consequences for them personally and for their families in Germany, but also for their relatives who continue to live in the countries of origin." — Open Doors report.
• "I came to Germany after fleeing my own country in the hope my life would be safer in the face of growing dangers. But in Germany I've been threatened more." — Christian refugee in Germany.
• "Despite increased reports about this problem by the media, charities, human rights organizations, church leaders and Christian organizations, German authorities and politicians have hardly ever launched an investigation. Instead, we believe that incidents are deliberately downplayed and even covered up. ... Even in police stations, religiously motivated attacks on Christian refugees are not documented as such." — Open Doors report.

2. .....German authorities and police have deliberately downplayed and even covered up the "taboo issue" of Muslim attacks on Christian refugees, apparently to avoid fueling anti-immigration sentiments.

3. The report, "Religiously Motivated Attacks on Christian Refugees in Germany" (Religiös motivierte Übergriffe gegen christliche Flüchtlinge in Deutschland), was produced by the German branch of Open Doors, a non-governmental organization supporting persecuted Christians, worldwide.

4. The study — which confirms a Gatestone Institute analysis about Muslim-Christian violence in German refugee shelters — documents more than 300 incidents in which Christian refugees in Germany have been physically and sexually assaulted, and even threatened with death, because of their faith.

5. Most of those questioned came from Iran, Afghanistan and Syria. Nine out of ten of those participating in the survey were Christians with a Muslim background. Of these, the majority had already converted to Christianity in their home countries.


6. ...the report "only shows the tip of the iceberg" because "many Christian refugees are frightened of facing more difficulties if they report incidents." Others fear that "the information could get into the wrong hands and cause danger for relatives still living in their home countries." The report states:

7. "It is alarming that Christian refugees and other religious minorities increasingly are facing the same persecution and discrimination as in their Muslim countries of origin,....



8.Thomas Müller, an analyst with Open Doors Deutschland, concluded:

"Christian refugees from many different countries are trying and failing to find safety in Europe and it is likely that the report only shows the tip of the iceberg. It is clear that many Christian refugees — especially those who are converts to the Christian faith — live in fear of persecution from Muslim refugees who make up the majority of residents in the refugee hostels set up throughout Europe. It is sobering to hear persecuted Christians telling a Western country that they recognize the very same persecution patterns in operation as in their home countries."
Germany: Christian Refugees Persecuted by Muslims

 

[Dogmaphobe]

When Mohammad created Islam, his purpose was to invest in himself a sense of ultimate power so his warriors would not question him as he instructed them to rape, murder and pillage their way to dominance. The religious aspects were simply grafted onto his political agenda as he cobbled together various bits from other religions to give the appearance of religion, but retaining the aggressive agenda.

Precious little has changed in 1400 years, as aggression is still the purpose, and religion is simply the ruse used to attain the ends.

 

[PoliticalChic]

When Mohammad created Islam, his purpose was to invest in himself a sense of ultimate power so his warriors would not question him as he instructed them to rape, murder and pillage their way to dominance. The religious aspects were simply grafted onto his political agenda as he cobbled together various bits from other religions to give the appearance of religion, but retaining the aggressive agenda.

Precious little has changed in 1400 years, as aggression is still the purpose, and religion is simply the ruse used to attain the ends.

1. [President Recep Tayyip] "Erdogan from Turkey when he said, ‘Islam is Islam. There are no modifiers [e.g., Islamic extremism]. Democracy is the train we ride to our ultimate objective.[ world domination.] It must be understood that Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion. The Islamic movement will seize power as soon as it is able."
Obama’s distorted strategy


2. Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, Jr. (Ret.), the former commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet,".... until you recognize that Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it. And as far as a strategy – let me just conclude one thing, as I just had in my latest op-ed -- the Obama Administration has a strategy...."

It’s very simple, any thinking American should be able to grasp,” said the admiral. “It’s anti-American, anti-Western, it’s pro-Islamic, it’s pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood!”
Admiral Lyons on Obama’s Strategy: ‘It’s Anti-American ... Pro-Islamic, It’s Pro-Iranian, and Pro-Muslim Brotherhood!’

 

[Penelope]

When Mohammad created Islam, his purpose was to invest in himself a sense of ultimate power so his warriors would not question him as he instructed them to rape, murder and pillage their way to dominance. The religious aspects were simply grafted onto his political agenda as he cobbled together various bits from other religions to give the appearance of religion, but retaining the aggressive agenda.

Precious little has changed in 1400 years, as aggression is still the purpose, and religion is simply the ruse used to attain the ends.

And yet his ideas came from Jews.

 

[BreezeWood]

Questioning The Definition of 'Religion'


persecution and the desert scriptures are synonymous in their application and are not reflective of the underlying religious principles that produced them.

islam - judaeo -christianity, are not religions.

.

 

[PoliticalChic]

When Mohammad created Islam, his purpose was to invest in himself a sense of ultimate power so his warriors would not question him as he instructed them to rape, murder and pillage their way to dominance. The religious aspects were simply grafted onto his political agenda as he cobbled together various bits from other religions to give the appearance of religion, but retaining the aggressive agenda.

Precious little has changed in 1400 years, as aggression is still the purpose, and religion is simply the ruse used to attain the ends.

And yet his ideas came from Jews.

Really?

These?

Punishment by death for apostasy from Islam is firmly rooted in the most holy Muslim texts -- both the Koran (verses such as 2:217 and 4:89) and the hadith (i.e., collections of the putative words and deeds of the Muslim prophet Muhammad, as compiled by pious Muslim transmitters), as well as the sacred Islamic Law (the Shari'a). For example, Muhammad is reported to have said "Kill him who changes his religion," in hadith collections of both Bukhari and Abu Dawud. There is also a consensus by all four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (i.e., Maliki, Hanbali, Hanafi, and Shafi'i), as well as Shi'ite jurists, that apostates from Islam must be put to death. Averroes (d. 1198), the renowned philosopher and scholar of the natural sciences, who was also an important Maliki jurist, provided this typical Muslim legal opinion on the punishment for apostasy:

"An apostate...is to be executed by agreement in the case of a man, because of the words of the Prophet, ‘Slay those who change their din [religion]'...Asking the apostate to repent was stipulated as a condition...prior to his execution."


The contemporary (i.e., 1991) Al-Azhar (Cairo) Islamic Research Academy-endorsed Shafi'i manual of Islamic Law, 'Umdat al-Salik (pp. 595-96) states:

"Leaving Islam is the ugliest form of unbelief (kufr) and the worst.... When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostasizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed. In such a case, it is obligatory...to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed."


The media's ignorance (or denial) of relevant Islamic jurisprudence on apostasy is compounded by its obliviousness to public pronouncements by North American Muslim legal scholars and clerics urging draconian punishments for Muslims who renounce Islam in Canada, or the US.



Syed Mumtaz Ali, the late architect of Canada's Sharia (Islamic Law) tribunal, and law professor Ali Khan, for example both advocated extending Islamic apostasy laws to the West. Mumtaz Ali, in a disturbing essay, affirmed the traditional Islamic legal viewpoint that apostates must "choose between Islam and the sword," arguing further that if Canada were to act in accord with its own Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Canadian government must grant the country's Islamic community authority to punish those Muslims who apostasize, or malign their faith.


Washburn (Topeka, Kansas) University Law Professor, Ali Khan, another practicing Muslim, provided a more original, but no less chilling rationale for Muslims in the West to violate -- fatally -- the basic freedom of conscience of their co-religionists. Khan argued in The Cumberland Law Review that apostasy from Islam is an "attack" upon "protected knowledge," which if deemed (i.e., by some Islamic tribunal one must assume!) to be "open, hostile, and voiced contemptuously," justified punishment by death. Ali Khan is convinced that traditional Islamic law precepts antithetical to freedom of conscience nevertheless trump this foundational Western freedom, because,

"Islam is the truth beyond doubt. [And] [t] hese rules preserve the dignity of protected knowledge, discouraging an ‘easy in, easy out' attitude toward Islam."
Articles: Killing Rifqa



You can't agree with that......can you?

 

[BULLDOG]

Christians being persecuted by Muslims in Germany is no worse than Muslims being persecuted by Christians here. The difference is that we claim to be a shining example of .justice, and equality. Germany allowing that doesn't absolve us of our hateful actions, and doesn't mean we should abandon our standards.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Questioning The Definition of 'Religion'


persecution and the desert scriptures are synonymous in their application and are not reflective of the underlying religious principles that produced them.

islam - judaeo -christianity, are not religions.

.

Only one of these three subscribes to the following:
· A woman cannot leave the house without her husband’s permission.

· Men can beat their “insubordinate” wives.

· Women who are convicted of adultery are punished by death by stoning.

· Apostasy from Islam is punished by death without trial.

· Non-Muslims under Shariah law are second-class citizens.

· Homosexuals and lesbians must be killed.

· Slavery is permitted and deemed legitimate.

“It is disheartening to think that your products are helping Shariah to gain a foothold in the United States,” the Republican members of Congress wrote. U.S. lawmakers scold AIG over Shariah finance



You might want to re-think your post.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Christians being persecuted by Muslims in Germany is no worse than Muslims being persecuted by Christians here. The difference is that we claim to be a shining example of .justice, and equality. Germany allowing that doesn't absolve us of our hateful actions, and doesn't mean we should abandon our standards.

"...Muslims being persecuted by Christians here."

These can only be the words of an Obama supporter.

Can you give examples and commensurate numbers of same?


You might want to include this:
Religious bias
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

• 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
• 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias. Victims

 

[Penelope]

Questioning The Definition of 'Religion'


persecution and the desert scriptures are synonymous in their application and are not reflective of the underlying religious principles that produced them.

islam - judaeo -christianity, are not religions.

.

Only one of these three subscribes to the following:
· A woman cannot leave the house without her husband’s permission.

· Men can beat their “insubordinate” wives.

· Women who are convicted of adultery are punished by death by stoning.

· Apostasy from Islam is punished by death without trial.

· Non-Muslims under Shariah law are second-class citizens.

· Homosexuals and lesbians must be killed.

· Slavery is permitted and deemed legitimate.

“It is disheartening to think that your products are helping Shariah to gain a foothold in the United States,” the Republican members of Congress wrote. U.S. lawmakers scold AIG over Shariah finance



You might want to re-think your post.

You might want to study the history of Christianity and Judaism. Sharia law is not going to take a foothold in the US.
PS: all that comes from Judaism. OT , try reading it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Questioning The Definition of 'Religion'


persecution and the desert scriptures are synonymous in their application and are not reflective of the underlying religious principles that produced them.

islam - judaeo -christianity, are not religions.

.

Only one of these three subscribes to the following:
· A woman cannot leave the house without her husband’s permission.

· Men can beat their “insubordinate” wives.

· Women who are convicted of adultery are punished by death by stoning.

· Apostasy from Islam is punished by death without trial.

· Non-Muslims under Shariah law are second-class citizens.

· Homosexuals and lesbians must be killed.

· Slavery is permitted and deemed legitimate.

“It is disheartening to think that your products are helping Shariah to gain a foothold in the United States,” the Republican members of Congress wrote. U.S. lawmakers scold AIG over Shariah finance



You might want to re-think your post.

You might want to study the history of Christianity and Judaism. Sharia law is not going to take a foothold in the US.
PS: all that comes from Judaism. OT , try reading it.

I understand why you are trying to change the subject from your insane slander that some other religion is responsible for homicidal instincts in Sharia.


Now...go scrub the egg off your face.

 

[BULLDOG]

Christians being persecuted by Muslims in Germany is no worse than Muslims being persecuted by Christians here. The difference is that we claim to be a shining example of .justice, and equality. Germany allowing that doesn't absolve us of our hateful actions, and doesn't mean we should abandon our standards.

"...Muslims being persecuted by Christians here."

These can only be the words of an Obama supporter.

Can you give examples and commensurate numbers of same?


You might want to include this:
Religious bias
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

• 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
• 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias. Victims

According to your link, and your post, anti-Islamic bias victims are the second largest group of victims in the US based on religion, exceeded only by anti-Jewish bias victims. You answered your own question, and disproved your own statement with your own link. Congratulations.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Christians being persecuted by Muslims in Germany is no worse than Muslims being persecuted by Christians here. The difference is that we claim to be a shining example of .justice, and equality. Germany allowing that doesn't absolve us of our hateful actions, and doesn't mean we should abandon our standards.

"...Muslims being persecuted by Christians here."

These can only be the words of an Obama supporter.

Can you give examples and commensurate numbers of same?


You might want to include this:
Religious bias
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

• 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
• 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias. Victims

According to your link, and your post, anti-Islamic bias victims are the second largest group of victims in the US based on religion, exceeded only by anti-Jewish bias victims. You answered your own question, and disproved your own statement with your own link. Congratulations.

Now...let's consider your cognitive dissonance...

You may have heard of 9/11.....
You may not be aware of the reason for Homeland Security and long lines of checking at airports
Or Gitmo....
Or the OP

but....once you've educated yourself to the above.....not that Jews are not involved in any of those....and yet the victimization of Muslims is minuscule in comparison.
Don't be a dunce you whole life.....take a day off.

 

[BULLDOG]

Christians being persecuted by Muslims in Germany is no worse than Muslims being persecuted by Christians here. The difference is that we claim to be a shining example of .justice, and equality. Germany allowing that doesn't absolve us of our hateful actions, and doesn't mean we should abandon our standards.

"...Muslims being persecuted by Christians here."

These can only be the words of an Obama supporter.

Can you give examples and commensurate numbers of same?


You might want to include this:
Religious bias
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

• 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
• 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias. Victims

According to your link, and your post, anti-Islamic bias victims are the second largest group of victims in the US based on religion, exceeded only by anti-Jewish bias victims. You answered your own question, and disproved your own statement with your own link. Congratulations.

Now...let's consider your cognitive dissonance...

You may have heard of 9/11.....
You may not be aware of the reason for Homeland Security and long lines of checking at airports
Or Gitmo....
Or the OP

but....once you've educated yourself to the above.....not that Jews are not involved in any of those....and yet the victimization of Muslims is minuscule in comparison.
Don't be a dunce you whole life.....take a day off.

You silly little twat. Nobody is trying to justify 9/11, and even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it. Your own link showed the FBI has determined Muslims are the 2nd largest group of victims of religiously motivated hate crimes. Your hateful crap isn't justified.

 

[Penelope]

Christians being persecuted by Muslims in Germany is no worse than Muslims being persecuted by Christians here. The difference is that we claim to be a shining example of .justice, and equality. Germany allowing that doesn't absolve us of our hateful actions, and doesn't mean we should abandon our standards.

"...Muslims being persecuted by Christians here."

These can only be the words of an Obama supporter.

Can you give examples and commensurate numbers of same?


You might want to include this:
Religious bias
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

• 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
• 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias. Victims

According to your link, and your post, anti-Islamic bias victims are the second largest group of victims in the US based on religion, exceeded only by anti-Jewish bias victims. You answered your own question, and disproved your own statement with your own link. Congratulations.

Now...let's consider your cognitive dissonance...

You may have heard of 9/11.....
You may not be aware of the reason for Homeland Security and long lines of checking at airports
Or Gitmo....
Or the OP

but....once you've educated yourself to the above.....not that Jews are not involved in any of those....and yet the victimization of Muslims is minuscule in comparison.
Don't be a dunce you whole life.....take a day off.

Zionist and some in the US did 911, just to keep the war on terror or reignite it. the Twin Towers were full of asbestos, and the building no. 7 had lots of info the world did not need to know. Planned demolition.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Christians being persecuted by Muslims in Germany is no worse than Muslims being persecuted by Christians here. The difference is that we claim to be a shining example of .justice, and equality. Germany allowing that doesn't absolve us of our hateful actions, and doesn't mean we should abandon our standards.

"...Muslims being persecuted by Christians here."

These can only be the words of an Obama supporter.

Can you give examples and commensurate numbers of same?


You might want to include this:
Religious bias
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

• 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
• 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias. Victims

According to your link, and your post, anti-Islamic bias victims are the second largest group of victims in the US based on religion, exceeded only by anti-Jewish bias victims. You answered your own question, and disproved your own statement with your own link. Congratulations.

Now...let's consider your cognitive dissonance...

You may have heard of 9/11.....
You may not be aware of the reason for Homeland Security and long lines of checking at airports
Or Gitmo....
Or the OP

but....once you've educated yourself to the above.....not that Jews are not involved in any of those....and yet the victimization of Muslims is minuscule in comparison.
Don't be a dunce you whole life.....take a day off.

You silly little twat. Nobody is trying to justify 9/11, and even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it. Your own link showed the FBI has determined Muslims are the 2nd largest group of victims of religiously motivated hate crimes. Your hateful crap isn't justified.

"....even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it."

Quran 4:89: "They (infidels) desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

Quran 8:12: "Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;"

Quran 2:191: "... kill the disbelievers wherever we find them

Quran 22:19-22: "… for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods."

Quran 8:12: "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Quran 8:7: "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Quran 8:59: "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."

Quran 8:60: "Prepare against them whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah, and others besides them not known to you."

Quran 9.29" "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

Quran 47:4: "Strike off the heads of the disbelievers" and, after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985): "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.'"

Quran 9:5: "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Sura 3:151: "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers!"

Sura 8:60: "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly."

Tabari IX "Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran."

Tabari I:280: "Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

Ishaq:327: "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"

These quotations are not out of context. They are representative of dozens and dozens of other messages in the Islamic "holy" texts. Clearly, they have inspired the violent and hateful behavior of followers.

I know there are many peaceful Muslims who view them allegorically rather than literally. Yet, is it outside the bounds of civil public discourse to challenge such statements?

I think it would be irresponsible to ignore how the Quran instructs its followers.

 

[Penelope]

Christians being persecuted by Muslims in Germany is no worse than Muslims being persecuted by Christians here. The difference is that we claim to be a shining example of .justice, and equality. Germany allowing that doesn't absolve us of our hateful actions, and doesn't mean we should abandon our standards.

"...Muslims being persecuted by Christians here."

These can only be the words of an Obama supporter.

Can you give examples and commensurate numbers of same?


You might want to include this:
Religious bias
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

• 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
• 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias. Victims

According to your link, and your post, anti-Islamic bias victims are the second largest group of victims in the US based on religion, exceeded only by anti-Jewish bias victims. You answered your own question, and disproved your own statement with your own link. Congratulations.

Now...let's consider your cognitive dissonance...

You may have heard of 9/11.....
You may not be aware of the reason for Homeland Security and long lines of checking at airports
Or Gitmo....
Or the OP

but....once you've educated yourself to the above.....not that Jews are not involved in any of those....and yet the victimization of Muslims is minuscule in comparison.
Don't be a dunce you whole life.....take a day off.

You silly little twat. Nobody is trying to justify 9/11, and even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it. Your own link showed the FBI has determined Muslims are the 2nd largest group of victims of religiously motivated hate crimes. Your hateful crap isn't justified.

"....even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it."

Quran 4:89: "They (infidels) desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

Quran 8:12: "Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;"

Quran 2:191: "... kill the disbelievers wherever we find them

Quran 22:19-22: "… for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods."

Quran 8:12: "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Quran 8:7: "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Quran 8:59: "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."

Quran 8:60: "Prepare against them whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah, and others besides them not known to you."

Quran 9.29" "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

Quran 47:4: "Strike off the heads of the disbelievers" and, after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985): "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.'"

Quran 9:5: "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Sura 3:151: "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers!"

Sura 8:60: "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly."

Tabari IX "Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran."

Tabari I:280: "Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

Ishaq:327: "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"

These quotations are not out of context. They are representative of dozens and dozens of other messages in the Islamic "holy" texts. Clearly, they have inspired the violent and hateful behavior of followers.

I know there are many peaceful Muslims who view them allegorically rather than literally. Yet, is it outside the bounds of civil public discourse to challenge such statements?

I think it would be irresponsible to ignore how the Quran instructs its followers.

Why not quote some OT verses while your at it. Or better yet some of the Talmud which is the real book for Jews.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"...Muslims being persecuted by Christians here."

These can only be the words of an Obama supporter.

Can you give examples and commensurate numbers of same?


You might want to include this:
Religious bias
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

• 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
• 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias. Victims

According to your link, and your post, anti-Islamic bias victims are the second largest group of victims in the US based on religion, exceeded only by anti-Jewish bias victims. You answered your own question, and disproved your own statement with your own link. Congratulations.

Now...let's consider your cognitive dissonance...

You may have heard of 9/11.....
You may not be aware of the reason for Homeland Security and long lines of checking at airports
Or Gitmo....
Or the OP

but....once you've educated yourself to the above.....not that Jews are not involved in any of those....and yet the victimization of Muslims is minuscule in comparison.
Don't be a dunce you whole life.....take a day off.

You silly little twat. Nobody is trying to justify 9/11, and even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it. Your own link showed the FBI has determined Muslims are the 2nd largest group of victims of religiously motivated hate crimes. Your hateful crap isn't justified.

"....even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it."

Quran 4:89: "They (infidels) desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

Quran 8:12: "Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;"

Quran 2:191: "... kill the disbelievers wherever we find them

Quran 22:19-22: "… for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods."

Quran 8:12: "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Quran 8:7: "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Quran 8:59: "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."

Quran 8:60: "Prepare against them whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah, and others besides them not known to you."

Quran 9.29" "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

Quran 47:4: "Strike off the heads of the disbelievers" and, after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985): "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.'"

Quran 9:5: "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Sura 3:151: "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers!"

Sura 8:60: "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly."

Tabari IX "Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran."

Tabari I:280: "Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

Ishaq:327: "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"

These quotations are not out of context. They are representative of dozens and dozens of other messages in the Islamic "holy" texts. Clearly, they have inspired the violent and hateful behavior of followers.

I know there are many peaceful Muslims who view them allegorically rather than literally. Yet, is it outside the bounds of civil public discourse to challenge such statements?

I think it would be irresponsible to ignore how the Quran instructs its followers.

Why not quote some OT verses while your at it. Or better yet some of the Talmud which is the real book for Jews.

"Why not quote some OT verses while your at it."

Because modern Jews and Christian have reformed, and treat same as allegory rather than contemporary mandates.

While that is true for some...perhaps most....Muslims...
Reza Aslan's view holds....
1. Reza Aslan(Persian:رضا اصلان‎‎,IPA: [ˈɾezɒː æsˈlɒːn]; born May 3, 1972) is anIranian-Americanauthor, commentator and religious scholar. He has written two books on religion:No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of IslamandZealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth.

Aslan was born into a Shia Muslimfamily.[32]He converted toevangelical Christianityat the age of 15,[5]and converted back toIslamthe summer before attending Harvard.[6]"
Reza Aslan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


He explains his religion thus:
" For a kid raised in a motley family of lukewarm Muslim sand exuberant atheists,....

In Iran, the place of my birth, I was Muslim in much the way I was Persian. My religion and my ethnicity were mutual and linked.

After the Iranian revolution forced my family to flee our home, religion in general, and Islam in particular became taboo in our household. Islam was shorthand for every thing we had lost to the mullahs who now ruled Iran.





2. But....what you would like to hide...is this:
"Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone. Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined. "Muslim Opinion Polls


Unfortunately...it is well more than 1%


What happens in Riyadh stays in Riyadh,... along with your hands.

 

[Penelope]

According to your link, and your post, anti-Islamic bias victims are the second largest group of victims in the US based on religion, exceeded only by anti-Jewish bias victims. You answered your own question, and disproved your own statement with your own link. Congratulations.

Now...let's consider your cognitive dissonance...

You may have heard of 9/11.....
You may not be aware of the reason for Homeland Security and long lines of checking at airports
Or Gitmo....
Or the OP

but....once you've educated yourself to the above.....not that Jews are not involved in any of those....and yet the victimization of Muslims is minuscule in comparison.
Don't be a dunce you whole life.....take a day off.

You silly little twat. Nobody is trying to justify 9/11, and even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it. Your own link showed the FBI has determined Muslims are the 2nd largest group of victims of religiously motivated hate crimes. Your hateful crap isn't justified.

"....even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it."

Quran 4:89: "They (infidels) desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

Quran 8:12: "Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;"

Quran 2:191: "... kill the disbelievers wherever we find them

Quran 22:19-22: "… for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods."

Quran 8:12: "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Quran 8:7: "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Quran 8:59: "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."

Quran 8:60: "Prepare against them whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah, and others besides them not known to you."

Quran 9.29" "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

Quran 47:4: "Strike off the heads of the disbelievers" and, after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985): "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.'"

Quran 9:5: "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Sura 3:151: "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers!"

Sura 8:60: "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly."

Tabari IX "Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran."

Tabari I:280: "Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

Ishaq:327: "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"

These quotations are not out of context. They are representative of dozens and dozens of other messages in the Islamic "holy" texts. Clearly, they have inspired the violent and hateful behavior of followers.

I know there are many peaceful Muslims who view them allegorically rather than literally. Yet, is it outside the bounds of civil public discourse to challenge such statements?

I think it would be irresponsible to ignore how the Quran instructs its followers.

Why not quote some OT verses while your at it. Or better yet some of the Talmud which is the real book for Jews.

"Why not quote some OT verses while your at it."

Because modern Jews and Christian have reformed, and treat same as allegory rather than contemporary mandates.

While that is true for some...perhaps most....Muslims...
Reza Aslan's view holds....
1. Reza Aslan(Persian:رضا اصلان‎‎,IPA: [ˈɾezɒː æsˈlɒːn]; born May 3, 1972) is anIranian-Americanauthor, commentator and religious scholar. He has written two books on religion:No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of IslamandZealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth.

Aslan was born into a Shia Muslimfamily.[32]He converted toevangelical Christianityat the age of 15,[5]and converted back toIslamthe summer before attending Harvard.[6]"
Reza Aslan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


He explains his religion thus:
" For a kid raised in a motley family of lukewarm Muslim sand exuberant atheists,....

In Iran, the place of my birth, I was Muslim in much the way I was Persian. My religion and my ethnicity were mutual and linked.

After the Iranian revolution forced my family to flee our home, religion in general, and Islam in particular became taboo in our household. Islam was shorthand for every thing we had lost to the mullahs who now ruled Iran.





2. But....what you would like to hide...is this:
"Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone. Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined. "Muslim Opinion Polls


Unfortunately...it is well more than 1%


What happens in Riyadh stays in Riyadh,... along with your hands.

Yes I have his book Zealot. While its true some depressed Muslims use weapons, Zionist and some Christians use money, when one is depressed such as the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza they become angry.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now...let's consider your cognitive dissonance...

You may have heard of 9/11.....
You may not be aware of the reason for Homeland Security and long lines of checking at airports
Or Gitmo....
Or the OP

but....once you've educated yourself to the above.....not that Jews are not involved in any of those....and yet the victimization of Muslims is minuscule in comparison.
Don't be a dunce you whole life.....take a day off.

You silly little twat. Nobody is trying to justify 9/11, and even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it. Your own link showed the FBI has determined Muslims are the 2nd largest group of victims of religiously motivated hate crimes. Your hateful crap isn't justified.

"....even if the monsters who attacked us were Muslim, that doesn't make the entire Muslim religion, or all Muslims responsible for it."

Quran 4:89: "They (infidels) desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

Quran 8:12: "Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;"

Quran 2:191: "... kill the disbelievers wherever we find them

Quran 22:19-22: "… for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods."

Quran 8:12: "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Quran 8:7: "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Quran 8:59: "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."

Quran 8:60: "Prepare against them whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah, and others besides them not known to you."

Quran 9.29" "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

Quran 47:4: "Strike off the heads of the disbelievers" and, after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985): "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.'"

Quran 9:5: "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Sura 3:151: "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers!"

Sura 8:60: "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly."

Tabari IX "Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran."

Tabari I:280: "Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

Ishaq:327: "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"

These quotations are not out of context. They are representative of dozens and dozens of other messages in the Islamic "holy" texts. Clearly, they have inspired the violent and hateful behavior of followers.

I know there are many peaceful Muslims who view them allegorically rather than literally. Yet, is it outside the bounds of civil public discourse to challenge such statements?

I think it would be irresponsible to ignore how the Quran instructs its followers.

Why not quote some OT verses while your at it. Or better yet some of the Talmud which is the real book for Jews.

"Why not quote some OT verses while your at it."

Because modern Jews and Christian have reformed, and treat same as allegory rather than contemporary mandates.

While that is true for some...perhaps most....Muslims...
Reza Aslan's view holds....
1. Reza Aslan(Persian:رضا اصلان‎‎,IPA: [ˈɾezɒː æsˈlɒːn]; born May 3, 1972) is anIranian-Americanauthor, commentator and religious scholar. He has written two books on religion:No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of IslamandZealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth.

Aslan was born into a Shia Muslimfamily.[32]He converted toevangelical Christianityat the age of 15,[5]and converted back toIslamthe summer before attending Harvard.[6]"
Reza Aslan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


He explains his religion thus:
" For a kid raised in a motley family of lukewarm Muslim sand exuberant atheists,....

In Iran, the place of my birth, I was Muslim in much the way I was Persian. My religion and my ethnicity were mutual and linked.

After the Iranian revolution forced my family to flee our home, religion in general, and Islam in particular became taboo in our household. Islam was shorthand for every thing we had lost to the mullahs who now ruled Iran.





2. But....what you would like to hide...is this:
"Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone. Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined. "Muslim Opinion Polls


Unfortunately...it is well more than 1%


What happens in Riyadh stays in Riyadh,... along with your hands.

Yes I have his book Zealot. While its true some depressed Muslims use weapons, Zionist and some Christians use money, when one is depressed such as the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza they become angry.

"... some depressed Muslims use weapons,Zionist and some Christians use money, when one is depressed such as the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza they become angry."

'Angry' equals the right to slaughter innocent human beings?

Really?



Using money...which the Supreme Court equated to free speech, is like killing people???
Here is an example of same:

"NEVE DEKALIM, Gaza Strip — Palestinians looted dozens of greenhouses on Tuesday, walking off with irrigation hoses, water pumps and plastic sheeting in a blow to fledgling efforts to reconstruct the Gaza Strip.

American Jewish donors had bought more than 3,000 greenhouses from Israeli settlers in Gaza for $14 million last month and transferred them to the Palestinian Authority. Former World Bank President James Wolfensohn, who brokered the deal, put up $500,000 of his own cash."
Looters strip Gaza greenhouses