Question for those on the Left who constantly speak of Israeli Genocide against Gazans

[cnm]

I have been nothing but polite and haven't resorted to flaming out or laugh reacting posts that aren't funny.

Nor have I descended into the hysterical name-calling and whining that you have been doing ever since you couldn't explain the cognitive dissonance at the heart of your argument.

Ever since then, this is how you've acted. Like a child. Completely incapable of holding yourself responsible for anything. Everything with you is always someone else's fault. That's probably coming from your parents who did not instill in you the idea of responsibility or accountability.

Now that's pretty funny.

 

[rosends]

It not what I say.

It's what the FBI say's upon investigating a report that a group of Jews were in jubilation -standing on a white van.

Don't pull me or my post into "conspiracy claims" pertaining to 9/11.

A "video" that somehow mysteriously vanished from the internet (and which I personally saw) - showed Jews on a wedding party, partially dancing on the street whilst the Twin Towers were burning. Where some say they danced because of the Twin Towers burning - whilst others say the street-dancing due to a wedding party had nothing to do with 9/11.

I am not in need for conspiracy theories at all - to point out and PROOF FACTUAL genocide and Israels murderous activities against Palestinians in the West-Bank.

Are we clear?

Don't argue with me about it - I cited a news article that says your claim is wrong. Aren't you going to defend yourself? Show me that what the article says is wrong.

 

[cnm]

OK, whatever you say.

Dancing Israelis 9/11 conspiracy theory: Why do people believe Mossad did 9/11 - The Jewish Chronicle

In the wake of the biggest terror attack in US history, five young Israeli men were arrested and sparked conspiracy theories for decades

www.thejc.com

Excerpt:
"A report by the FBI cleared their names later that month. A field report published a few weeks later stated: “Both the Newark and the New York Divisions conducted a thorough investigation which determined that none of the Israelis had any information on prior knowledge regarding the bombing of the World Trade Center. Furthermore, Newark and New York determined that none of the Israelis were actively engaged in clandestine intelligence activities in the United States.”"

So, were they dancing?

 

[rosends]

So, were they dancing?

How should I know. That article says that no one observed the dancing.

 

[sparky]

The Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel has no legal standing to "determine" anything.

Yet the UN panel states categorically that Israel is committing genocide.

There is no evidence in the new report that the IDF is deliberately targeting children with the intent to exterminate a national group.

Israeli army's shoot to kill policy: Israeli soldiers confirm the policy documented in journal - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

These soldiers testify that they were ordered in briefings to shoot to kill unarmed civilians, including children, even when there was no threat and in periods of calm. They were ordered to “fire at anything that moved” and were told “every person you see on the street, `kill him.' And we would just do it.”4 The attitude was “so kids got killed.

~S~

 

[Shusha]

Israeli army's shoot to kill policy: Israeli soldiers confirm the policy documented in journal - PMC

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

These soldiers testify that they were ordered in briefings to shoot to kill unarmed civilians, including children, even when there was no threat and in periods of calm. They were ordered to “fire at anything that moved” and were told “every person you see on the street, `kill him.' And we would just do it.”4 The attitude was “so kids got killed.

~S~

From the same article:

"Soldiers will not use their weapons and force to harm human beings who are not combatants or prisoners of war, and will do all in their power to avoid causing harm to their lives, bodies, dignity and property," the Israeli Defense Forces website says.

That article is related to the Second Intifada.

There is no evidence in the new report that the IDF is deliberately targeting children with the intent to exterminate a national group.

 

[Kruska]

I understand Israelis in the US Congress don't have to state their alternative allegiance.

AFAIK - all Jewish Senators in Congress are Democrats and one independent (which makes these MAGA Zionists on USMB look more then "hilarious").
And none of them is a dual - respectively Israeli citizen.

If I am wrong - please let me know.

 

[Yarddog]

Two wrongs do not make it right..

Im not saying Israel does not do wrong things in the West bank... surely they can be more fair with Palestinian property owners and concerning things like water rights etc... those may be real disputes... but those are not genocide. Israel also has taken legit precautions in the West Bank due to suicide bombers... so it is not a one sided thing. When people keep condemning Israel for genocide and then calling for Free palestine from the river to the sea... they are essentially setting the ground work for exterminating or getting rid of all Israelis in Israel. Two wrongs does not make a right but why do we never see college kids protesting the tactics of Hammas when they are responsible for so many civiian deaths??
I think if we follow the money and where it comes from we know a good part of that why. Such a cooincidence that just a day after October 7 ready made signs protesting Israel just happened to pop up in major cities across the world. no way was that "grass roots" it's organized by the propaganda machine.

 

[cnm]

AFAIK - all Jewish Senators in Congress are Democrats and one independent (which makes these MAGA Zionists on USMB look more then "hilarious").
And none of them is a dual - respectively Israeli citizen.

If I am wrong - please let me know.

Haven't a clue.

 

[Yarddog]

You only proof that you don't know shit about Hamas - and what the term genocide beholds.

One off the usual mindless and idiotic ways to distract from the GENOCIDE that Zionist FACTUALLY commit.

Israel does strike hammas positions inside gaza yes.. but you still have not explained why with all that money, Hamams commits strikes against Israel fully knowing their positions will be fired on.
And then Hammas has built deep underground tunnels to protect themselves , but not civilians.. whos dead bodies they will cry over the next day.. WHy does Hammas not do that? are they just stupid?

 

[cnm]

but those are not genocide.

Lol. Where are the holocaust denials of yesteryear?

 

[talksalot]

"Israel did not pay Hamas directly out of its own state funds, but for years the Israeli government permitted Qatar to transfer approximately $30 to $35 million per month in cash into the Gaza Strip. [1, 2, 3]
These funds—which were initially intended to cover civil servant salaries, fuel, and assistance to impoverished families in Gaza—required Israeli approval and security clearance to pass through the border. [1, 2, 3]
The decade-long policy was part of a controversial strategy championed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The rationale was that maintaining basic economic stability in Gaza would "buy quiet" and keep Hamas focused on governance rather than armed conflict. It also served a political goal of maintaining a separation between Hamas in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank to prevent the establishment of a unified Palestinian state. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Following the October 7, 2023 attacks, this arrangement faced severe criticism. Critics and intelligence officials argue that because money is fungible, the cash infusions allowed Hamas to divert its own resources toward building an extensive military"

No good deed goes unpunished.

 

[Kruska]

How should I know. That article says that no one observed the dancing.

The witness who reported them to the police - Maybe you should pick it up with her.

As she gazed at the burning towers, she noticed a group of men kneeling on the roof of a white van in her parking lot. Here's her recollection: "They seemed to be taking a movie. They were like happy, you know ... they didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was strange."
Their lawyers and the embassy say their ghoulish and sinister celebrations (smiling, hugging and high-fiving) as the Twin Towers blazed and thousands died were due to youthful foolishness.

As for my part I couldn't give shit if they were dancing - or "just" smiling, hugging and high-fiving. Fact is they were happy about it.
These 7-8 Jews dancing on the street were a FACT - if it was due to a marriage party or the burning Twin-Towers, I will leave it up to you and others to decide.

 

[cnm]

Israel does strike hammas positions inside gaza yes.. but you still have not explained why with all that money, Hamams commits strikes against Israel fully knowing their positions will be fired on.
And then Hammas has built deep underground tunnels to protect themselves , but not civilians.. whos dead bodies they will cry over the next day.. WHy does Hammas not do that? are they just stupid?

Holocaust denial is a pitiful thing.

 

[Kruska]

Israel does strike hammas positions inside gaza yes.. but you still have not explained why with all that money, Hamams commits strikes against Israel fully knowing their positions will be fired on.
And then Hammas has built deep underground tunnels to protect themselves , but not civilians.. whos dead bodies they will cry over the next day.. WHy does Hammas not do that? are they just stupid?

Ask Hamas

And all your blabbering doesn't disprove, that Israel has and is conducting genocide against Palestinians.

 

[Yarddog]

Holocaust denial is a pitiful thing.

If Israel wanted to commit genocide all they would need to do is cut off food and water, but it is Israel who is helping facilitate or donate supplies to Gaza. During the actual holocaust, did the Nazis deliver hundreds of Tons of food to starving Jews?

 

[Yarddog]

Ask Hamas

And all your blabbering doesn't disprove, that Israel has and is conducting genocide against Palestinians.

The numbers dont support that theory.

 

[cnm]

If Israel wanted to commit genocide all they would need to do is cut off food and water, but it is Israel who is helping facilitate or donate supplies to Gaza. During the actual holocaust, did the Nazis deliver hundreds of Tons of food to starving Jews?

Be that as it may, Israel is using other methods as well as starvation and thirst in its UN panel determined genocide. Obviously because it wants to.

 

[cnm]

The numbers dont support that theory.

It's fascinating to watch holocaust denial in action. I bet this is how the train drivers reacted.

 

[Kruska]

The numbers dont support that theory.

Genocide is determined by the actions that are taken against civilians and a specific ethnicity/group - and not just by numbers.

FYI -Israel has murdered more Palestinian civilians in Gaza and the West-Bank, then the Nazis murdered Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto.

And NO Arab nor Muslim or Christian Palestinian had invited nor ask those illegal Jewish European immigrants to settle on their land, nor to rob it and displace the native population.