Question for Democrats: Why isn’t ICE shooting protestors in red states?

[yidnar]

ICE is operating as normal in Texas while in Minnesota, which has less than 1% of the population of illegal immigrants, a violent invasion has been ordered by people who celebrate when ICE murders Americans

if the socialist leaders in Minn cooperated with federal agents carrying out the rule of law there wouldn't be a need for so many agents ..

 

[Billiejeens]

That's like demonstrating that the sky is blue. All you have to do is open your eyes. He was just threatening to invade Greenland. He has his brown shirts invading American cities that he doesn't like. He supports political violence. He calls for his political opponents to be executed. He talks about canceling elections. He tried to stage a coup in 2021 to remain in power. The list goes on and on. And given you agree with all the fascist stuff that Trump has done that makes you a fascist too, which is why you support Trump so blindly. Fascists love followers who blindly support them. That's how they stay in power.

From your words to God's ears.

 

[Doc7505]

Maybe because Texas has 15 times more illegal immigrants than MN does, genius. But I don't think the vast majority of detentions are in red states. From the data I've seen, TX and California are pretty close in total detentions. Florida and New York are too. But feel free to show any data that supports your claim that the 'vast' majority of ICE arrests are in red states.

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Yet the round-up operations goes mainly smoothly, the jails are emptied of criminal illegals easily and TDA and NS-13 criminals on the streets are being arrest too.
Not so in Minnesota up to now.
Although, Walz has agreed with Trump and will supposedly cooperate from here on in...

 

[Beefheart]

So the rioters in blue states are falling for Trump's trick?

Of course they only use the kind of force required to deal with the attacks.

WIf your first paragraph is true, why wouldn't the solution be to not be violent and give Trump what he wants but instead take the cases to court?

It's not like that is a novel approach for Democrats. I often disagree, but it is peaceful.

Why do you oppose peace?

So you don't think there are already many many cases in court involving ICE's abuses? But I do agree that the protesters are giving Trump what he wants: an opportunity for his goons to abuse them. It's a dilemma: Exercising your legal right to protest gives Trump the opportunity to violate your civil rights, which is what he wants.

 

[Beefheart]

From your words to God's ears.

Well at least you admit that Trump is your god.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So you don't think there are already many many cases in court involving ICE's abuses?

Please - demonstrate this to be true.

But I do agree that the protesters are giving Trump what he wants: an opportunity for his goons to abuse them.

Please - demonstrate this is what Trump wants.

It's a dilemma: Exercising your legal right to protest...

Constitution 101: You have the right to peaceably assemble. No more.

gives Trump the opportunity to violate your civil rights, which is what he wants.

Please - demonstrate this is what Trump wants.

Else, you're no different than "a dumbass MAGA who won't acknowledge data that doesn't support my dumbass MAGA worldview."

 

[jknowgood]

Why? He's a fascist. That's what they do. How? Declare martial law so he can suspend the Constitution, further punish his opponents, and cancel the elections (which is the only way to prevent a Republican wipe out in 2026). Trump's a fascist and that's how fascists take power in a democracy.

So he is making you loons so crazy, you fall right into his plans. Only blue sanctuary cities are having problems.

 

[Billiejeens]

Well at least you admit that Trump is your god.

Absolutely, as far as you know.

 

[jknowgood]

I live in a red state. It is full of dumb ass conservatives lying to themselves about life. Stop lying about red states as if they are holier than thou.

Yes the ghettos in red states suck. Maybe you should try harder and get out of it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Post a reputable source when we get a full year's numbers. Whatever it says will be fine. I'm not a dumbass MAGA who won't acknowledge data that doesn't support my dumbass MAGA worldview. There are 22,000 ICE agents in the US and 3000 of them are stationed in Minneapolis right now. That's about 14% of ICE in a city that comprises about 0.15% of the US population. I think the ICE arrest numbers are going to show a lot more blue state arrests in the second half of Trump's first year.

What’s the proportion of illegal immigrants?

 

[Beefheart]

Please - demonstrate this to be true.

Please - demonstrate this is what Trump wants.

Constitution 101: You have the right to peaceably assemble. No more.

Please - demonstrate this is what Trump wants.

Else, you're no different than "a dumbass MAGA who won't acknowledge data that doesn't support my dumbass MAGA worldview."

So you don't know that there are many court cases related to ICE's abuses and overreach? You must just be really really ignorant.

 

[Billiejeens]

Yes the ghettos in red states suck. Maybe you should try harder and get out of it.

The Country and go home.

 

[jknowgood]

That's not what's happening, boot licker. Your gestapo agents have been and will continue being doxxed and will be put on trial in a few years.

The same ice, but you loons are nuts. Your boy even gave him a reward.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So you don't know....

Thank you for proving you're no different than "a dumbass MAGA who won't acknowledge data that doesn't support my dumbass MAGA worldview."
I am sure you will contine to do so.

 

[jknowgood]

Does that make logical sense to you? Really? Why would ICE or the admin target Minnesota?

Because he is an idiot.

 

[Beefheart]

What’s the proportion of illegal immigrants?

In Minnesota? Minnesota has roughly 1% of the illegal immigrant population in the US and about 14% of ICE agents currently deployed there.

 

[M14 Shooter]

He was just threatening to invade Greenland.

He has his brown shirts invading American cities that he doesn't like. He supports political violence. He calls for his political opponents to be executed. He talks about canceling elections. He tried to stage a coup in 2021 to remain in power.

Demonstrate these actions are exclusive to fascism, and that someone who engages in these actions is necessarily a fascist..

Else, you're no different than "a dumbass MAGA who won't acknowledge data that doesn't support my dumbass MAGA worldview."

 

[Dogmaphobe]

ICE isn't running rampant in red states the way it is in MN. This is by design. Trump targets blue states. He wants to provoke a reaction in blue states so he can escalate further. But if ICE shows up in a blue city in a red state (say Austin) with the kind of force and recklessness they have shown in MN, you can bet there will be protesters out there and you can bet ICE will assault them and possibly murder them.

This posting has sure proven to be a great way to run up your reaction score, hasn't it?

 

[Beefheart]

Because he is an idiot.

Agree Trump's an idiot. And that's one of the reasons he's using 14% of ICE to target a state with 1% of the illegal population.

 

[jknowgood]

It's cities, not states.

But okay .. back to sleep for you

Okay then why aren't cities in red states having a problem with ice?