Q1 2019 watch - if under 3.0% - where is Trump’s economic miracle - can Trump beat O’s 2.9% ever?

[Faun]

Of course it had to do with Obama. It went on during his entire administration. No one gives a fuck who did it or why they did it. The fact that Obama didn't do it means he deserves no credit for it.

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president. That has nothing to do with Obama.

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president.

And it stayed there for the first 7 years of Obama's tenure.

Because Obama's recovery was so good.

How many months of positive job growth did President Barack Hussein Obama economic managing produce?

His very weak recovery lasted a long time.

So, you can't post 65 months?

Obama's economy tripled the stock market, has donny grifters?

83 months in the private sector.

 

[Faun]

2.9% ? No, Only thing Obama had was ONE.9%. His 2016 year . 2.9......1.9....1.8.....1.8 divided by 4. = 1.9.

LOLOL

A dumbfuck who "claims" to have taught economics proves he was full of shit as he averages out quarterly growth to show annual growth when anybody with any knowledge of economics would calculate annualized growth.

Not to mention, your math sucks. The average of 2.9, 1.9, 1.8 and 1.8 is 2.1, not 1.9.

 

[Faun]

But then i’m Not sure what numbers you are citing. They don’t match up with quarterly or annual growt under Obama.

I TOLD you what I was using, just now, and I've BEEN telling you all through this Lonnnnng thread. Obama's 2016 GDPs. Duh!

and the numbers you posted were wrong.

 

[Faun]

Fucking moron, I explained when they arranged it and why and it had nothing to do with Obama. It's no one else's fault but your own that you're too big of a fucking moron to understand.

Of course it had to do with Obama. It went on during his entire administration. No one gives a fuck who did it or why they did it. The fact that Obama didn't do it means he deserves no credit for it.

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president. That has nothing to do with Obama.

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president.

And it stayed there for the first 7 years of Obama's tenure.

Because Obama's recovery was so good.

But you claim trump's economy is so strong and he's pressuring the fed to drop the rate.

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

 

[protectionist]

You are so stupid. That is not how the annual GDP growth is determined .

I am truly embarrassed for you

Ha ha. One problem liberals have, is that they can't seem to come to grips with the realization that the whole world does not dance to their catchwords, catchphrases, and ideas that they set up, and then expect everyone to go along with. If they didn't stick so tightly to liberal media, university professors, and think tanks, they wouldn't be living in their own lopsided bubbles.
You can call it any way you want. The FACT is these 4 quarters are Obama's last 4 quarters, and they average out to 1.875.

When I was a guitarist in a rock band, and played in clubs, there was an old saying. You can be mediocre all through your set, but if your LAST 3 SONGS are really good, the audience will love you, as you walk offstage.

The American people didn't and shouldn't love Obama's last 3 or 4 quarters. They stunk and they sunk. They can be viewed or "determined" or spun, any way you like, but at ht eend of the term Obama walked offstage a flunk.

Lesson learned from the last 10 years. Elect successful businessmen to be POTUS, not community organizers. I've given you an education here, but you don't seem to be too good a student. Not my problem.

 

[protectionist]

and the numbers you posted were wrong.

And what half ass college did YOU attend. Too bad some of you couoldn't be in our CUNY classes of the 1970s. Looks like university economics has gone astray a bit since the libbies have taken over. We learned and taught the real thing, not some lefty spin jobs.

PS - the numbers I posted are from US Bureau of Economic Analysis, US Dept of Commerce. Don't like the numbers. Go fight with them.

 

[protectionist]

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

But in 2016, Obama wasn't being handed " the worst economy since the Great Depression" He had an improving economy, AND HE MUFFED IT. That will be his economic legacy for all time. 2.3.....1.9......1.8. As George H. Bush would say >> " BAD! BAD!"

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22675790.

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

But then to be fair you’d have to adjust poor little DonnyJ ‘s GDP based on starting out with a much smaller workforce than the one he was fortunate to start with. In other words as is done with inflation being based upon constant 2009 dollars you will have to adjust TrumpO’s GDP based upon the number of Americans employed near the end of January 2009.

So if you need to cry and pout about lil DonnyJ’s hardship from the Fed you’ll have to weigh in with the myriad other beneficial factors that have an impact on GDP as well.

I’m for expecting each President to be man enough to play the hand they were dealt.

And lil DonnyJ’s 2.9 GDP does not beat Obama’s 2.9.

TrumpO said he could take the hand he was dealt to 4.0 and as high as 6.0 but no amount of excuses from him and all his TrumpOroids will erase the failure to achieve that which came out of lil DonnyJ’s big lyin’ mouth.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You are so stupid. That is not how the annual GDP growth is determined .

I am truly embarrassed for you

Ha ha. One problem liberals have, is that they can't seem to come to grips with the realization that the whole world does not dance to their catchwords, catchphrases, and ideas that they set up, and then expect everyone to go along with. If they didn't stick so tightly to liberal media, university professors, and think tanks, they wouldn't be living in their own lopsided bubbles.
You can call it any way you want. The FACT is these 4 quarters are Obama's last 4 quarters, and they average out to 1.875.

When I was a guitarist in a rock band, and played in clubs, there was an old saying. You can be mediocre all through your set, but if your LAST 3 SONGS are really good, the audience will love you, as you walk offstage.

The American people didn't and shouldn't love Obama's last 3 or 4 quarters. They stunk and they sunk. They can be viewed or "determined" or spun, any way you like, but at ht eend of the term Obama walked offstage a flunk.

Lesson learned from the last 10 years. Elect successful businessmen to be POTUS, not community organizers. I've given you an education here, but you don't seem to be too good a student. Not my problem.

Yes, Obama sucked...on that part we agree.

Yet Trump has only been marginally better...yet you worship the very ground he walks on.

You put the party before the country and are loyal to a man and not your country.


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[Faun]

and the numbers you posted were wrong.

And what half ass college did YOU attend. Too bad some of you couoldn't be in our CUNY classes of the 1970s. Looks like university economics has gone astray a bit since the libbies have taken over. We learned and taught the real thing, not some lefty spin jobs.

PS - the numbers I posted are from US Bureau of Economic Analysis, US Dept of Commerce. Don't like the numbers. Go fight with them.

Dumbfuck, the numbers you posted for 2016 were 2.9, 1.9, 1.8, 1.8. While the actual numbers are 1.5, 2.3, 1.9, 1.8.

You prove to be too senile to even know what younpost.

 

[Faun]

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

But in 2016, Obama wasn't being handed " the worst economy since the Great Depression" He had an improving economy, AND HE MUFFED IT. That will be his economic legacy for all time. 2.3.....1.9......1.8. As George H. Bush would say >> " BAD! BAD!"

His legacy is the same as trump's.... being the only 2 presidents to not have a year of 3% growth or higher.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Of course it had to do with Obama. It went on during his entire administration. No one gives a fuck who did it or why they did it. The fact that Obama didn't do it means he deserves no credit for it.

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president. That has nothing to do with Obama.

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president.

And it stayed there for the first 7 years of Obama's tenure.

Because Obama's recovery was so good.

But you claim trump's economy is so strong and he's pressuring the fed to drop the rate.

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression.

And according to the Fed, it sucked for 7 years.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22675790.

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

But then to be fair you’d have to adjust poor little DonnyJ ‘s GDP based on starting out with a much smaller workforce than the one he was fortunate to start with. In other words as is done with inflation being based upon constant 2009 dollars you will have to adjust TrumpO’s GDP based upon the number of Americans employed near the end of January 2009.

So if you need to cry and pout about lil DonnyJ’s hardship from the Fed you’ll have to weigh in with the myriad other beneficial factors that have an impact on GDP as well.

I’m for expecting each President to be man enough to play the hand they were dealt.

And lil DonnyJ’s 2.9 GDP does not beat Obama’s 2.9.

TrumpO said he could take the hand he was dealt to 4.0 and as high as 6.0 but no amount of excuses from him and all his TrumpOroids will erase the failure to achieve that which came out of lil DonnyJ’s big lyin’ mouth.

I’m for expecting each President to be man enough to play the hand they were dealt.

If that were true, you'd whine less about Obama's weakest recovery since WWII.

 

[Faun]

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president. That has nothing to do with Obama.

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president.

And it stayed there for the first 7 years of Obama's tenure.

Because Obama's recovery was so good.

But you claim trump's economy is so strong and he's pressuring the fed to drop the rate.

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression.

And according to the Fed, it sucked for 7 years.

Nope, that's not what that meant. Thanks for trying though.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, post: 22675790.

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

But then to be fair you’d have to adjust poor little DonnyJ ‘s GDP based on starting out with a much smaller workforce than the one he was fortunate to start with. In other words as is done with inflation being based upon constant 2009 dollars you will have to adjust TrumpO’s GDP based upon the number of Americans employed near the end of January 2009.

So if you need to cry and pout about lil DonnyJ’s hardship from the Fed you’ll have to weigh in with the myriad other beneficial factors that have an impact on GDP as well.

I’m for expecting each President to be man enough to play the hand they were dealt.

And lil DonnyJ’s 2.9 GDP does not beat Obama’s 2.9.

TrumpO said he could take the hand he was dealt to 4.0 and as high as 6.0 but no amount of excuses from him and all his TrumpOroids will erase the failure to achieve that which came out of lil DonnyJ’s big lyin’ mouth.

And lil DonnyJ’s 2.9 GDP does not beat Obama’s 2.9.

If Obama's 2.9% happened with Fed Funds at 1.50% and rising instead of at 0.25%, I'd agree.
If Obama's 2.9% happened with QE getting reversed instead of expanding the Fed balance sheet 59%, I'd agree.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It was lowered before Obama became president and due to horrid economic disasters occurring under the previous president.

And it stayed there for the first 7 years of Obama's tenure.

Because Obama's recovery was so good.

But you claim trump's economy is so strong and he's pressuring the fed to drop the rate.

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression.

And according to the Fed, it sucked for 7 years.

Nope, that's not what that meant. Thanks for trying though.

Fed Funds at 0-0.25% for 7 years meant the economy was rocking?
Thanks for adding your wisdom. DURR.

 

[Faun]

But you claim trump's economy is so strong and he's pressuring the fed to drop the rate.

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression.

And according to the Fed, it sucked for 7 years.

Nope, that's not what that meant. Thanks for trying though.

Fed Funds at 0-0.25% for 7 years meant the economy was rocking?
Thanks for adding your wisdom. DURR.

No, it meant the fed was nervous about raising the rate since the last time they had, it contributed to the collapse of our economy. It's the same reason they're keeping it low now and not raising it more.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And if they ever drop it to Obama levels, then you can claim Trump's economy is as weak as Obama's.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression.

And according to the Fed, it sucked for 7 years.

Nope, that's not what that meant. Thanks for trying though.

Fed Funds at 0-0.25% for 7 years meant the economy was rocking?
Thanks for adding your wisdom. DURR.

No, it meant the fed was nervous about raising the rate since the last time they had, it contributed to the collapse of our economy. It's the same reason they're keeping it low now and not raising it more.

An economy so fragile that it needs rates at 0-0.25% isn't a strong economy.

 

[Faun]

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression. And still, trump is fighting to lower the already low rate.

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression.

And according to the Fed, it sucked for 7 years.

Nope, that's not what that meant. Thanks for trying though.

Fed Funds at 0-0.25% for 7 years meant the economy was rocking?
Thanks for adding your wisdom. DURR.

No, it meant the fed was nervous about raising the rate since the last time they had, it contributed to the collapse of our economy. It's the same reason they're keeping it low now and not raising it more.

An economy so fragile that it needs rates at 0-0.25% isn't a strong economy.

Your continued lying doesn't help you. Again, it was a nervous Fed that didn't want to wreck the economy again. The same Fed that is keeping the rate low now. According to you, that means the economy sucks now too.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not necessary since unlike Obama, trump wasn't handed the worst economy since the Great Depression.

And according to the Fed, it sucked for 7 years.

Nope, that's not what that meant. Thanks for trying though.

Fed Funds at 0-0.25% for 7 years meant the economy was rocking?
Thanks for adding your wisdom. DURR.

No, it meant the fed was nervous about raising the rate since the last time they had, it contributed to the collapse of our economy. It's the same reason they're keeping it low now and not raising it more.

An economy so fragile that it needs rates at 0-0.25% isn't a strong economy.

Your continued lying doesn't help you. Again, it was a nervous Fed that didn't want to wreck the economy again. The same Fed that is keeping the rate low now. According to you, that means the economy sucks now too.

No lie, the effective Fed Funds rate was below 0.25% from December 2008 until December 2015.

Effective Federal Funds Rate | FRED | St. Louis Fed

The same Fed that is keeping the rate low now. According to you, that means the economy sucks now too.

Effective Federal Funds Rate | FRED | St. Louis Fed

2.4% is a far cry from sub 0.25%.