putin´s billionaires don’t share the optimism,....They see little prospect that incoming Trump will lift sanctions, - Bloomberg

[Litwin]

These putin´s billionaires could be right....Donald Trump wants to cut global oil prices in half ( ITS less than 30 $ US for Urals )

... if he does so , Moscow empire won´t survive his 4 years in the office ...



putin´s billionaires don’t share the optimism,....They see little prospect that incoming Trump will lift sanctions, - Bloomberg

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Litwin]

Pere is 100% correct

Putin’s plan for a new Russian Empire includes both Ukraine and Belarus

A leaked document detailing Russia's plans to absorb Belarus highlights the scale of Vladimir Putin's imperial ambitions and provides insights into the true objectives behind the invasion of Ukraine, writes Taras Kuzio.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

The Inevitable Fall of Putin’s New Russian Empire

What history tells us about collapsed empires trying to restore their former possessions.

foreignpolicy.com

by the way, have you seen this news ?

Moscow 🇷🇺 economy meltdown as runaway inflation sees 64% potato price rise

Send Tucker back to do more research. :popcorn: Next will be the price of vodka and that will be it...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[imawhosure]

These putin´s billionaires could be right....Donald Trump wants to cut global oil prices in half ( ITS less than 30 $ US for Urals )

... if he does so , Moscow empire won´t survive his 4 years in the office ...



putin´s billionaires don’t share the optimism,....They see little prospect that incoming Trump will lift sanctions, - Bloomberg

LOL, I like Trump, but you are off the reservation at least partially.

At 40 bucks a barrel, producers in this country can not even break even in the fracking space. Last I seen, it was around 47 bucks a barrel, and that was quite a while a go. With the Biden inflation, I am sure today it is between 53 and 60 bucks a barrel to break even or make a small profit.

 

[Litwin]

LOL, I like Trump, but you are off the reservation at least partially.

At 40 bucks a barrel, producers in this country can not even break even in the fracking space. Last I seen, it was around 47 bucks a barrel, and that was quite a while a go. With the Biden inflation, I am sure today it is between 53 and 60 bucks a barrel to break even or make a small profit.

If US and Saudi Arabia, dump (for a short period of time/ 4 months ) a whole bunch of oil and gas in the market, then it’s entirely possible.


In four months, Saudi extraction rose from two million to 10 million barrels a day, and prices plummeted from $32 a barrel to $10. For the USSR’s economy - already accustomed to exorbitant incomes from its oil, this was a death blow. in 1986 alone, the USSR lost more than $20 billion (approximately 7.5% of the USSR’s annual income), and it already had a budget deficit.

But Saudi Arabia’s economy was also punished because of the low prices! Why did they do it? Allen’s opinion is that Casey offered the sheiks financial reparations in exchange for the move; this opinion is backed up by the fact that in 1986, 80% of Saudi oil was sold through Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and Chevron – all American companies.

The Soviet Union plunged into recession following the 1985-1986 oil crisis. It was enough for the already unhealthy, command-style Soviet economy to crumble. In 1986, USSR’s external loans were about $30 billion; by 1989 they had reached $50 billion.
... The US predictably profited: in 1986, American gas stations even gave away free petrol for advertising.

The oil crisis significantly helped the US win the Cold War against the USSR: the economic recession led Mikhail Gorbachev to make hugely unpopular political decisions. An attempt to reform the governmental system (known as Perestroika) was largely hopeless due to the lack of funds. Gorbachev’s populist rhetoric didn’t play well with an impoverished population. They demanded responsibility for the government’s short-sighted actions, and that’s when Boris Yeltsin came in with his harsh critique of the Soviet system at large. By the end of the 1980s, the collapse of the Soviet EMPIRE was all but inevitable.

How Saudi Arabia’s oil policy triggered the collapse of the USSR

Saudi Arabia has recently launched an oil price war that affects the global economy. Previously, the same measures contributed to the collapse of the...

www.rbth.com

 

[imawhosure]

If US and Saudi Arabia, dump (for a short period of time/ 4 months ) a whole bunch of oil and gas in the market, then it’s entirely possible.


In four months, Saudi extraction rose from two million to 10 million barrels a day, and prices plummeted from $32 a barrel to $10. For the USSR’s economy - already accustomed to exorbitant incomes from its oil, this was a death blow. in 1986 alone, the USSR lost more than $20 billion (approximately 7.5% of the USSR’s annual income), and it already had a budget deficit.

But Saudi Arabia’s economy was also punished because of the low prices! Why did they do it? Allen’s opinion is that Casey offered the sheiks financial reparations in exchange for the move; this opinion is backed up by the fact that in 1986, 80% of Saudi oil was sold through Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and Chevron – all American companies.

The Soviet Union plunged into recession following the 1985-1986 oil crisis. It was enough for the already unhealthy, command-style Soviet economy to crumble. In 1986, USSR’s external loans were about $30 billion; by 1989 they had reached $50 billion.
... The US predictably profited: in 1986, American gas stations even gave away free petrol for advertising.

The oil crisis significantly helped the US win the Cold War against the USSR: the economic recession led Mikhail Gorbachev to make hugely unpopular political decisions. An attempt to reform the governmental system (known as Perestroika) was largely hopeless due to the lack of funds. Gorbachev’s populist rhetoric didn’t play well with an impoverished population. They demanded responsibility for the government’s short-sighted actions, and that’s when Boris Yeltsin came in with his harsh critique of the Soviet system at large. By the end of the 1980s, the collapse of the Soviet EMPIRE was all but inevitable.

How Saudi Arabia’s oil policy triggered the collapse of the USSR

Saudi Arabia has recently launched an oil price war that affects the global economy. Previously, the same measures contributed to the collapse of the...

www.rbth.com

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You know what, you are to OPTIMISTIC, and not REALISTIC. If you think that China is going to let them wither on the vine, you are being silly. CHINA NEEDS OIL! Who do you think they want to purchase it from? Think USA? House of Saud? Kuwait? or Iran and Russia!

Now you are going to tell me/us, WHY would China do that if the price of oil was 20 bucks a barrel, and to help Russia, they would need to fork over 60!

Because China knows that the price was being MANIPULATED to hurt their friend. They wouldn't purchase oil from Russia and Iran at 60 if the price on the market was 20, but they would float them cash; and when the price broke whatever the deal was set at for oil, Russia and Iran would then ship them oil to balance the books.

Listen CAREFULLY to what I am telling you Litwin------------>we lend leased BILLIONS of arms during WWII when a billion dollars, was actually a billion dollars. If you think China can't float 10 or 20 billion in futures oil contracts for Russia and Iran, giving them instant access to cash when needed, then you do not know world finances.

The ONLY way to screw Russia and Iran as long as China has a stake, is to dramatically LOWER oil prices for an extended period of time........like 18 months. China could/would NOT float that marker for that long.

But to do this........you had better hope that DJT knows how to get the price down into the 50 to 60 dollar range with his "drill, baby drill" mantra. If he does, your scenario is viable. If he doesn't, you better start thinking of a better idea!

 

[Litwin]

You know what, you are to OPTIMISTIC, and not REALISTIC. If you think that China is going to let them wither on the vine, you are being silly. CHINA NEEDS OIL! Who do you think they want to purchase it from? Think USA? House of Saud? Kuwait? or Iran and Russia!

Now you are going to tell me/us, WHY would China do that if the price of oil was 20 bucks a barrel, and to help Russia, they would need to fork over 60!

Because China knows that the price was being MANIPULATED to hurt their friend. They wouldn't purchase oil from Russia and Iran at 60 if the price on the market was 20, but they would float them cash; and when the price broke whatever the deal was set at for oil, Russia and Iran would then ship them oil to balance the books.

Listen CAREFULLY to what I am telling you Litwin------------>we lend leased BILLIONS of arms during WWII when a billion dollars, was actually a billion dollars. If you think China can't float 10 or 20 billion in futures oil contracts for Russia and Iran, giving them instant access to cash when needed, then you do not know world finances.

The ONLY way to screw Russia and Iran as long as China has a stake, is to dramatically LOWER oil prices for an extended period of time........like 18 months. China could/would NOT float that marker for that long.

But to do this........you had better hope that DJT knows how to get the price down into the 50 to 60 dollar range with his "drill, baby drill" mantra. If he does, your scenario is viable. If he doesn't, you better start thinking of a better idea!

great post , but it has couple errors, can you google Outer Manchuria , and correct it ? of you need my help ?

Muscovy is now a Chinese colony — while still foolishly dreaming of empire

China has ALREADY declared part of Moscow empire as its territory on new official maps China's state-owned Standard Map Service has presented a set of geographic maps for 2023, on which for the first time part of Moscow's territory is indicated as part of China. It is about the Bolshoy...

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The commie Chinese were outraged by the statements of the putin´s propagandist Mardan about the “Chinese threat.”

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

These putin´s billionaires could be right....Donald Trump wants to cut global oil prices in half ( ITS less than 30 $ US for Urals )

... if he does so , Moscow empire won´t survive his 4 years in the office ...



putin´s billionaires don’t share the optimism,....They see little prospect that incoming Trump will lift sanctions, - Bloomberg

Hoarding by the Plutocratic Golden Horde

Producers can make just as much money on volume. That's how the Ford Dynasty became billionaires.

There is a great shortage of energy in the developing countries such as China and India. That's two billion customers. The potential of oil, methane, and LNG is practically unlimited. There is enough potential and inevitably reachable energy below the Earth's surface to fuel a worldwide booming economy for thousands of years.

Warmalarmism, Conservation, and Peak Oil are Bribery Science. Contrary to what the rulers tell us about political alignments, all those well-funded lies are designed to cause artificial shortages so that the Big Oil companies can gouge us on pricing.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Troll for Tillerson

Once again, Trump has let himself be infiltrated by a Liz Cheney fanatic. Putin is the only leader free to fight the One World, Third World Order.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If US and Saudi Arabia, dump (for a short period of time/ 4 months ) a whole bunch of oil and gas in the market, then it’s entirely possible.


In four months, Saudi extraction rose from two million to 10 million barrels a day, and prices plummeted from $32 a barrel to $10. For the USSR’s economy - already accustomed to exorbitant incomes from its oil, this was a death blow. in 1986 alone, the USSR lost more than $20 billion (approximately 7.5% of the USSR’s annual income), and it already had a budget deficit.

But Saudi Arabia’s economy was also punished because of the low prices! Why did they do it? Allen’s opinion is that Casey offered the sheiks financial reparations in exchange for the move; this opinion is backed up by the fact that in 1986, 80% of Saudi oil was sold through Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and Chevron – all American companies.

The Soviet Union plunged into recession following the 1985-1986 oil crisis. It was enough for the already unhealthy, command-style Soviet economy to crumble. In 1986, USSR’s external loans were about $30 billion; by 1989 they had reached $50 billion.
... The US predictably profited: in 1986, American gas stations even gave away free petrol for advertising.

The oil crisis significantly helped the US win the Cold War against the USSR: the economic recession led Mikhail Gorbachev to make hugely unpopular political decisions. An attempt to reform the governmental system (known as Perestroika) was largely hopeless due to the lack of funds. Gorbachev’s populist rhetoric didn’t play well with an impoverished population. They demanded responsibility for the government’s short-sighted actions, and that’s when Boris Yeltsin came in with his harsh critique of the Soviet system at large. By the end of the 1980s, the collapse of the Soviet EMPIRE was all but inevitable.

How Saudi Arabia’s oil policy triggered the collapse of the USSR

Saudi Arabia has recently launched an oil price war that affects the global economy. Previously, the same measures contributed to the collapse of the...

www.rbth.com

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GreedHeads Live off the Gullible

It's stupid and wealth-worshiping to let the petrocrats tell us what their costs are. I've heard as low as 50 cents a barrel. Besides, the huge profits they get from the petrochemical portion of crude oil is intentionally never mentioned.

You've proved that Russophobes are groveling peasants who superstitiously believe that God made the rich rich.

 

[Litwin]

GreedHeads Live off the Gullible

It's stupid and wealth-worshiping to let the petrocrats tell us what their costs are. I've heard as low as 50 cents a barrel. Besides, the huge profits they get from the petrochemical portion of crude oil is intentionally never mentioned.

You've proved that Russophobes are groveling peasants who superstitiously believe that God made the rich rich.

what do you think about putin´s rubble?

 

[luiza]

UKRAINE COLLAPSE
UAF REMNANTS BEING OVER RUN

MASSIVE DISASTER | Velyka Novosilka & Kurakhove Under Massive Threat | AFU Upper Hand In Toretsk

Kurakhove Front COLLAPSES Russian Forces Gain SHOCKING Advantage!

VELYKA NOVOSILKA OFFENSIVE BEGINS!!! Massive Kursk advances! Kurakhove entered! | Ukraine War SITREP

Massive New Russian Offensive Begins l Kursk Disaster Unfolding

Significant advances in Velyka Novosilka and Kurakhove

 

[Litwin]

UKRAINE COLLAPSE
UAF REMNANTS BEING OVER RUN

MASSIVE DISASTER | Velyka Novosilka & Kurakhove Under Massive Threat | AFU Upper Hand In Toretsk

Kurakhove Front COLLAPSES Russian Forces Gain SHOCKING Advantage!

VELYKA NOVOSILKA OFFENSIVE BEGINS!!! Massive Kursk advances! Kurakhove entered! | Ukraine War SITREP

Massive New Russian Offensive Begins l Kursk Disaster Unfolding

Significant advances in Velyka Novosilka and Kurakhove

Moscow gas supply could stop to Austria before year-end, IAEA chief says German return to nuclear power is 'logical'. Sanctions against putin´s fleet

great news for US LNG ! The USSR´s empire is gone, the Romanov´s empire is gone. NEVER 2 WITHOUT 3, the Saddam Putsein ´s empire will follow! I SAY : shut 🇷🇺 it down!shut it down!shut it down!shut it down!shut it down! shut it down! IAEA chief says German return to nuclear power is...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Litwin]

 

[luiza]

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Why did you lie about Russian Potato prices , Nazi Troll , Titlose?

 

[Litwin]

 

[Deadstick]

What it needs to do what? get more young Ukrainian men killed fighting for a corrupt gangster Zelensky and NAZO.

 

[Litwin]

What it needs to do what? get more young Ukrainian men killed fighting for a corrupt gangster Zelensky and NAZO.

RT crap

the reality :

 

[Litwin]

Troll for Tillerson

Once again, Trump has let himself be infiltrated by a Liz Cheney fanatic. Putin is the only leader free to fight the One World, Third World Order.

sure ivan

Occupied (by 🇷🇺) Abkhazia , Circassians rebelled against the ratification of an investment agreement with Moscow empire.

all Circassians must return home, do you agree ? backgound : https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/breaking-moscow-empire-stopped-all-payment-to-abkhazia-the-empire-want-to-settle-millions-muscovites-and-stans-muslims-in-abkhazia-genocides-n2.1123405/

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