Putin praises Trump for his efforts for a peace treaty with Ukraine - which favor Russia

[Luckyone]

Here is Putin praising Trump for his efforts for a peace treaty with Ukraine - which favor Russia



Here is what Trump's peace plan that he offered yesterday offers, that helps Russia and punishes Ukraine

Here's what's in Trump administration's proposed Russia-Ukraine peace plan​

1) Ukraine expected to give up its eastern regions​

As written, the plan would allow Russia to hold onto much of the Ukrainian territory that it currently occupies — and take over some Ukrainian-held areas.

2) Ukraine must cap its military size​

3) No to NATO membership — but Ukraine can join the EU​

Keeping in mind that Putin invaded Russia with no provocation and has targeted killing innocent citizens, that Russia has already annexed about 10% of Ukraine's territory and is asking for more, that is asking for Ukraine to cap its military size (which he has no right to do) and the fact that it wants to stop Ukraine from joining a group (NATO) which should be a right for every nation to have, this Trump peace plan is evidently being 90% beneficial to Russia. The only thing that Ukraine gets is a peace deal......which can always be broken again in the future.

This peace plan is "awarding" invasion and attempts to take away the right of a nation to defend its freedom and punishing those that try to defend themselves against injustice...................TRUMP'S PLAN!

Is this something our country should support?

 

[Yarddog]

The Video has a time stamp of August 14.. this was yesterday?

 

[Luckyone]

The Video has a time stamp of August 14.. this was yesterday?

No, the video was not yesterday. It was Trump’s place plan that was relejases yesterday

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Here is Putin praising Trump for his efforts for a peace treaty with Ukraine - which favor Russia



Here is what Trump's peace plan that he offered yesterday offers, that helps Russia and punishes Ukraine

Here's what's in Trump administration's proposed Russia-Ukraine peace plan​

1) Ukraine expected to give up its eastern regions​

As written, the plan would allow Russia to hold onto much of the Ukrainian territory that it currently occupies — and take over some Ukrainian-held areas.

2) Ukraine must cap its military size​

3) No to NATO membership — but Ukraine can join the EU​

Keeping in mind that Putin invaded Russia with no provocation and has targeted killing innocent citizens, that Russia has already annexed about 10% of Ukraine's territory and is asking for more, that is asking for Ukraine to cap its military size (which he has no right to do) and the fact that it wants to stop Ukraine from joining a group (NATO) which should be a right for every nation to have, this Trump peace plan is evidently being 90% beneficial to Russia. The only thing that Ukraine gets is a peace deal......which can always be broken again in the future.

This peace plan is "awarding" invasion and attempts to take away the right of a nation to defend its freedom and punishing those that try to defend themselves against injustice...................TRUMP'S PLAN!

Is this something our country should support?

Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

Ukraine forced to surrender territory to Russia and prohibited to join NATO is exactly what Putin wants.

Trump’s plan signals to his fellow despots and dictators that autocrats like Putin can start wars and commit war crimes with impunity.

 

[Independent thinker]

Here is Putin praising Trump for his efforts for a peace treaty with Ukraine - which favor Russia



Here is what Trump's peace plan that he offered yesterday offers, that helps Russia and punishes Ukraine

Here's what's in Trump administration's proposed Russia-Ukraine peace plan​

1) Ukraine expected to give up its eastern regions​

As written, the plan would allow Russia to hold onto much of the Ukrainian territory that it currently occupies — and take over some Ukrainian-held areas.

2) Ukraine must cap its military size​

3) No to NATO membership — but Ukraine can join the EU​

Keeping in mind that Putin invaded Russia with no provocation and has targeted killing innocent citizens, that Russia has already annexed about 10% of Ukraine's territory and is asking for more, that is asking for Ukraine to cap its military size (which he has no right to do) and the fact that it wants to stop Ukraine from joining a group (NATO) which should be a right for every nation to have, this Trump peace plan is evidently being 90% beneficial to Russia. The only thing that Ukraine gets is a peace deal......which can always be broken again in the future.

This peace plan is "awarding" invasion and attempts to take away the right of a nation to defend its freedom and punishing those that try to defend themselves against injustice...................TRUMP'S PLAN!

Is this something our country should support?

Any treaty to end the war favors Russia. If people favor to keep the war going then that also favors Russia.

 

[Luckyone]

Any treaty to end the war favors Russia. If people favor to keep the war going then that also favors Russia.

The fact is that Russia was favored to take over Ukraine over 3 years ago but after 300,000 Russians having died in the Ukraine war and the country having lost around $450 billion because of the war, and the war continuing, Russia has lost more than the war has been worth to it (so far).

I would say that the percentage of "favoring Russia" has dropped significantly. I would also say that if ultimately a peace treaty is accomplished, the costs of the war will mean it lost.

 

[Independent thinker]

The fact is that Russia was favored to take over Ukraine over 3 years ago but after 300,000 Russians having died in the Ukraine war and the country having lost around $450 billion because of the war, and the war continuing, Russia has lost more than the war has been worth to it (so far).

I would say that the percentage of "favoring Russia" has dropped significantly. I would also say that if ultimately a peace treaty is accomplished, the costs of the war will mean it lost.

This is the trouble with democrats. They are willing to let all of Ukraine go as long as it is painful for Russia. Trump is trying to keep at least most of Ukraine.

 

[Luckyone]

This is the trouble with democrats. They are willing to let all of Ukraine go as long as it is painful for Russia. Trump is trying to keep at least most of Ukraine.

“Keep” most of Ukraine? You mean that Trump feels that Russia had every right to invade it and also for Putin to target and kill innocent civilians and be retardes for it?

Aren’t we supposed to representa the rights to life, liberty and happiness?

You support dictatorships and the right for a person to take those rights from you?

 

[Independent thinker]

“Keep” most of Ukraine? You mean that Trump feels that Russia had every right to invade it and also for Putin to target and kill innocent civilians and be retardes for it?

Aren’t we supposed to representa the rights to life, liberty and happiness?

You support dictatorships and the right for a person to take those rights from you?

Isn't most better than zero, which is what will eventually happen as the war drags on?

 

[Yarddog]

“Keep” most of Ukraine? You mean that Trump feels that Russia had every right to invade it and also for Putin to target and kill innocent civilians and be retardes for it?

Aren’t we supposed to representa the rights to life, liberty and happiness?

You support dictatorships and the right for a person to take those rights from you?

No your presumption is false. maybe Trump realizes that the rest of the world is unwilling to embargo Russia, and no matter what we do, short of going to war with them.. they are going to continue for whatever reason of Putin's.
So we can continue to prop up the war, and in one sense it seems right... never surrender , but in the other sense we can see that realistically in doing so... it will cost more Ukranian lives and probably more territory as well. SO both choices are bad choices.
Not sure its really worth the extra destruction and deaths, but then again maybe Putin wont even go for it.

 

[Luckyone]

Isn't most better than zero, which is what will eventually happen as the war drags on?

Does that mean that peace is more important than protecting your life, liberty and right to happiness? That you would be willing to give up your future well being in order to survive today?

 

[Luckyone]

No your presumption is false. maybe Trump realizes that the rest of the world is unwilling to embargo Russia, and no matter what we do, short of going to war with them.. they are going to continue for whatever reason of Putin's.
So we can continue to prop up the war, and in one sense it seems right... never surrender , but in the other sense we can see that realistically in doing so... it will cost more Ukranian lives and probably more territory as well. SO both choices are bad choices.
Not sure its really worth the extra destruction and deaths, but then again maybe Putin wont even go for it.

In other words “**** them and what principles that are represented?

 

[Hollie]

In other words “**** them and what principles that are represented?

Your “principles” are to vilify Trump while you’re perfectly fine with the war continuing with Putin occupying more of Ukraine.

You will celebrate the death of Ukies if the war continues as a means to promote your TDS.

 

[Hollie]

In other words “**** them and what principles that are represented?

In other words, these are the principles you endorse, you brain dead moron.

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[Yarddog]

In other words “**** them and what principles that are represented?

OH boy you insist on over simplifying one position don't you? like I said, either path has big negatives ... if there is a peace deal, less people continue to die... is THAT a big **** THEM?

if Russia also does not agree to stop, then the peace deal doesnt happen either and I suppose we might have to continue supporting Ukraine, but that would be out of pure necessity.

As it is right now.. what other world leader has really tried to mediate a peace deal there? was it a Brit? a German? which smart person took front and center to help figure this out?

 

[Rogue AI]

Trump, forever Putin’s useful idiot.

Ukraine forced to surrender territory to Russia and prohibited to join NATO is exactly what Putin wants.

Trump’s plan signals to his fellow despots and dictators that autocrats like Putin can start wars and commit war crimes with impunity.

Blame that appeaser Biden. The time to act was day one, not years down the road. Russia won on the battlefield. Nobody is willing to die for Ukraine so this outcome is expected. All that is left is for the whiny keyboard warriors to shut up and accept reality.

 

[Mac1958]

The "plan" is already falling apart.

The United States has become a global embarrassment. And no one can trust us any more, especially our former friends and former allies.

Like our President, we just create chaos and uncertainty everywhere we go, everything we touch.

 

[Rogue AI]

The "plan" is already falling apart.

The United States has become a global embarrassment. And no one can trust us any more, especially our former friends and former allies.

What friends and allies? The assholes that ripped us off in the Oil for Food deal? Those cheap Eurotrash bastards that cooked the books on their NATO arsenals, which left Ukraine using Soviet era hand me downs? Those so-called friends and allies? Good riddance to that trash.

 

[Correll]

In other words “**** them and what principles that are represented?

He made a serious reply. Then you ignored what he said and posted... spin.

 

[Correll]

The "plan" is already falling apart.

The United States has become a global embarrassment. And no one can trust us any more, especially our former friends and former allies.

Like our President, we just create chaos and uncertainty everywhere we go, everything we touch.

The guns continue to flow and russia continues to bleed.

So... why are you so unhappy?