Putin embarrasses the President again. Does America even have space program?

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Russia targets space station project in retaliation for U.S. sanctions | Reuters

Russia targets space station project in retaliation for U.S. sanctions


(Reuters) - Russia cast doubt on the long-term future of the International Space Station, a showcase of post-Cold War cooperation, as it retaliated on Tuesday against U.S. sanctions over Ukraine.

Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said Moscow would reject a U.S. request to prolong the orbiting station's use beyond 2020, and bar Washington from using Russian-made rocket engines to launch military satellites.

Moscow took the action, which also included suspending operation of GPS satellite navigation system sites on its territory from June, in response to U.S. plans to deny export licences for high-technology items that could help the Russian military.

"We are very concerned about continuing to develop high-tech projects with such an unreliable partner as the United States, which politicises everything," Rogozin told a news conference.

Washington wants to keep the $100 billion, 15 nation space station project in use until at least 2024, four years beyond the previous target.

While six years away, the plan to part ways on a project which was supposed to end the "space race" underlines how relations between the former Cold War rivals have deteriorated since Russia annexed Ukraine in March.

Since the end of the U.S. Space Shuttle project, Russian Soyuz spacecraft have been the only way astronauts can get to the space station, whose crews include both Americans and Russians.

At a time when Moscow is struggling to reform its accident-plagued space programme, Rogozin said U.S. plans to deny export licences for some high-technology items were a blow to Russian industry. "These sanctions are out of place and inappropriate," Rogozin said. "We have enough of our own problems."

Moscow's response would affect NK-33 and RD-180 engines which Russia supplies to the United States, Rogozin said. "We are ready to deliver these engines but on one condition that they will not be used to launch military satellites," he said.

RD-180 engines are used to boost Atlas 5 rockets manufactured by United Launch Alliance, a partnership of Lockheed Martin and Boeing that holds a virtual monopoly on launching U.S. military satellites.

Rogozin said Moscow was planning "strategic changes" in its space industry after 2020 and aims to use money and "intellectual resources" that now go to the space station for a "a project with more prospects".

He suggested Russia could use the station without the United States, saying: "The Russian segment can exist independently from the American one. The U.S. one cannot."

The U.S. space agency NASA is working with companies to develop space taxis with the goal of restoring U.S. transport to the station by 2017, but the United States currently pays Russia more than $60 million per person to fly its astronauts up.

Rogozin said Russia will suspend the operation of 11 GPS sites on its territory from June and seek talks with Washington on opening similar sites in the United States for Russia's own satellite navigation system, Glonass.

He threatened the permanent closure of the GPS sites in Russia if that is not agreed by September.

Rogozin said the suspension of the sites would not affect everyday operations of the GPS system in Russia, where it is used by millions of Russians for navigation on their smartphones and in their cars.

The upheaval in Ukraine - where the United States says Russia is backing separatists and the Kremlin accuses Washington of helping protesters to topple a Moscow-friendly president in February, has led to the worst East-West crisis since the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union.

In addition to the high-tech sector sanctions, the United States has imposed visa bans and assets freezes on officials and lawmakers and targeted companies with links to President Vladimir Putin. The European Union has also imposed sanctions.
 
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Move to Russia then fuck stick . My lord just pick your sorry ass up & play in traffic . y'all are about the most worthless bunch of crying azz pussies I have ever seen .
 
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Move to Russia then fuck stick . My lord just pick your sorry ass up & play in traffic . y'all are about the most worthless bunch of crying azz pussies I have ever seen .

In case any of you ever want to know why this country has turned into an utter wasteland of shit, look no further than this piece of shit with 60 rep points since 2011.

Just another typical American hating brainwashed pawn who loves the entire idea of the total demise of the west. Especially America.

Should have been flushed or swallowed.
 
Move to Russia then fuck stick . My lord just pick your sorry ass up & play in traffic . y'all are about the most worthless bunch of crying azz pussies I have ever seen .

In case any of you ever want to know why this country has turned into an utter wasteland of shit, look no further than this piece of shit with 60 rep points since 2011.

Just another typical American hating brainwashed pawn who loves the entire idea of the total demise of the west. Especially America.

Should have been flushed or swallowed.

They only allow inmates to use the computer once a Month at Happy Acres

And it's 58 rep points now :)
 
It's pure bluster at this point since the space station and transport to and from is one of the few sources of income Russia has.

However idiotic the OP is; it does raise a question, why are we fully reliant on them for this? Valid question; just not an overly important one.
 
Putin embarrasses the President again. Does America even have space program?
Declaring Putin the victor before the fight is over, only shows who's side you're on. Cons are traitors to their own country.
 
It's pure bluster at this point since the space station and transport to and from is one of the few sources of income Russia has.

However idiotic the OP is; it does raise a question, why are we fully reliant on them for this? Valid question; just not an overly important one.

Yep. Russia is just a poor backward country with no industry to speak of.

Russian Industry - Major Industries

About Russian Industry

Currently Russian consists of the following competitive industries: oil and gas, mining, processing precious stones and metals, aircraft building, aerospace production, weapons and military machinery manufacture, electric engineering, pulp-and-paper production, automotive industry, transport, road and agriculture machinery production, light and foodstuffs industries.

Russia has learned that the communistic economy that we are moving toward doesn't work. They are still climbing out of the communist hole but they are doing it. After all, our military does buy its rockets from the Russians.
 
Move to Russia then fuck stick . My lord just pick your sorry ass up & play in traffic . y'all are about the most worthless bunch of crying azz pussies I have ever seen .

In case any of you ever want to know why this country has turned into an utter wasteland of shit, look no further than this piece of shit with 60 rep points since 2011.

Just another typical American hating brainwashed pawn who loves the entire idea of the total demise of the west. Especially America.

Should have been flushed or swallowed.

Dumb fuck, it is not we liberals that are cheering for Putin. It is you traitorous 'Conservatives'.

It is time for the US to have a real space program again. And that means spending real money. But we have not only an excellent technology sector in place, look at the Rovers that they built, we now have private enterprise launch vehicles. Spend some real money and in a decade the Russians will be paying American companies to launch their payloads.
 
It is time for the US to have a real space program again. Democrats are too busy with wealth redistribution to have a real space program. It's all social engineering.
 
Short answer to the question posed if we need a space program, yes. That is if you like your GPS and the ability to watch TV, use maps, your cell phone, weather forecasting, etc. This issue here is not a Russian issue as I see it, it is an American issue, in that we have let our space program slide to the point where we now outsource even Military hardware and manned flights. Things this nation was fully capable of doing. Perhaps Russia has done us a favor by kicking some in the backsides and waking some up. There are at the moment several domestic options for launching Military flights among them SpaceX just to name a few. As for the station itself , fine when we are done with it, "deorbit" all the sections we constructed, which comprise about 90% of the station and leave the one Russian module as space junk.
 
This will show you how short sighted NASA is and also show what NASA plans to do as a result of this announcement.

Russia just announced plans to shut down the International Space Station in 2020, and prohibited companies in the country from selling engines to Lockheed Martin and Boeing for military launch purposes. If this is more than just posturing, there’s at least one takeaway: SpaceX is about to get paid.

It was just a month ago that NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said that Russia would never ban the United States from the ISS, and that his “contingency plan” for getting astronauts to and from the ISS was to continue working with Russia as normal until an American company is ready to fly manned flights to the ISS in roughly three years.
Russia's New Space Sanctions Mean SpaceX Is About to Get Paid | Motherboard

Falcon 9 is a two-stage rocket powered by liquid oxygen and rocket grade kerosene (RP- 1). It was designed from the ground up by SpaceX for the reliable and cost-efficient transport of satellites to low Earth orbit and geosynchronous transfer orbit, and for sending SpaceX's Dragon spacecraft, including manned missions, to orbiting destinations such as the International Space Station.

Falcon 9 saw its first successful launch on June 4, 2010, and its second on December 8, 2010.

Quick Facts:

Made in America: All structures, engines, avionics, and ground systems designed, manufactured and tested in the United States by SpaceX.
Spaceflight Now | Falcon Launch Report | SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket facts

It would seem ULA got a little lazy and decided that outsourcing something they could clearly build , so they could sell it to the Air Force, and NASA "on the cheap" has exposed this nation, all because of a Congress and President(s) who did not care , or looked the other way . The point though is that our country has a thriving domestic rocket program , we the taxpayers need to demand our Govt. use it.
 
Move to Russia then fuck stick . My lord just pick your sorry ass up & play in traffic . y'all are about the most worthless bunch of crying azz pussies I have ever seen .

In case any of you ever want to know why this country has turned into an utter wasteland of shit, look no further than this piece of shit with 60 rep points since 2011.

Just another typical American hating brainwashed pawn who loves the entire idea of the total demise of the west. Especially America.

Should have been flushed or swallowed.

Dumb fuck, it is not we liberals that are cheering for Putin. It is you traitorous 'Conservatives'.

It is time for the US to have a real space program again. And that means spending real money. But we have not only an excellent technology sector in place, look at the Rovers that they built, we now have private enterprise launch vehicles. Spend some real money and in a decade the Russians will be paying American companies to launch their payloads.

No dumbfuck, we're not cheering for Putin, we're pointing out the truth. You're the one who turns speaking the truth into cheering for the enemy. Obama is the one who cancelled the program that was to replace the Shuttle with a new space vehicle, the one who ordered NASA to be a muslim outreach organization from now on.

It was dumbfucks like you who elected a foreign born, communist born and bred, communist sworn anti American to be President.

And don't tell me the birth certificate thing is old and worn out, it's not.
For four years no birth certificate could be found. The Hawaian Minister in charge of such things said there was none. Obama makes an unscheduled trip to Hawaii and like magic one appears, one that experts have determined it was not original, it did not fit the paper and machines used to print them when Obama was born.

Obama, you, and the rest of you Leftwing commie bastards will not be happy until America looks like Kenya, or worse.
 
Exactly. We already have the beginning of the second phase of the US space exploration in Space X. And there are people that are actually competeing with Musk. Time to turn our good people loose on the project. All it takes is the willingness to spend the money. And the return will be even greater than the return on the Apollo program.
 
In case any of you ever want to know why this country has turned into an utter wasteland of shit, look no further than this piece of shit with 60 rep points since 2011.

Just another typical American hating brainwashed pawn who loves the entire idea of the total demise of the west. Especially America.

Should have been flushed or swallowed.

Dumb fuck, it is not we liberals that are cheering for Putin. It is you traitorous 'Conservatives'.

It is time for the US to have a real space program again. And that means spending real money. But we have not only an excellent technology sector in place, look at the Rovers that they built, we now have private enterprise launch vehicles. Spend some real money and in a decade the Russians will be paying American companies to launch their payloads.

No dumbfuck, we're not cheering for Putin, we're pointing out the truth. You're the one who turns speaking the truth into cheering for the enemy. Obama is the one who cancelled the program that was to replace the Shuttle with a new space vehicle, the one who ordered NASA to be a muslim outreach organization from now on.

It was dumbfucks like you who elected a foreign born, communist born and bred, communist sworn anti American to be President.

And don't tell me the birth certificate thing is old and worn out, it's not.
For four years no birth certificate could be found. The Hawaian Minister in charge of such things said there was none. Obama makes an unscheduled trip to Hawaii and like magic one appears, one that experts have determined it was not original, it did not fit the paper and machines used to print them when Obama was born.

Obama, you, and the rest of you Leftwing commie bastards will not be happy until America looks like Kenya, or worse.

Look, birther, if you promise to vote for a few trillion for the space program, then maybe you being a dumb fuck birther will be partially overlooked.
 

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