Public school children forced to pray to Allah

[syrenn]

You are a silly lost rider, are you not?

The issue is parental permission not your loony political lack of sense.

Sign or don't sign the parental permission slip is the point here.

Get on board and stop swimming around the ship.

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

Not to mention that a permission slip can't grant a school the right to do something which ins unconstitutional. That is the part they are missing.

Yes i have picked up on that too. If they took the kids to a catholic church, had them kneel, take a wafer and a sip....the WORLD would end as we know it!

 

[JenT]

But you're missing it.

I think the real problem is that our own government is promoting it. Bil Clinton got together with Almadoudi (now in jail for terrorism) along with a bunch of pseudo religious organizations and hammered it out. His appointed judge Phyllis Hamilton ruled teachers can REQUIRE kids to get on their hands and knees and pray to Allah out loud from memory, the prayer that people speak to become muslims.

Our corrupt government is more the problem than Muslims.

 

[Zoom-boing]

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

Not to mention that a permission slip can't grant a school the right to do something which ins unconstitutional. That is the part they are missing.

Yes i have picked up on that too. If they took the kids to a catholic church, had them kneel, take a wafer and a sip....the WORLD would end as we know it!

They wouldn't have been allowed to take a wafer and a sip if they had not received the sacraments. They would, however, have been allowed to say the Our Father or a Hail Mary. Do you think the priest would have given them false info on the Hail Mary, telling them is was really a last-ditch effort in a football game? heh

"If they took the kids to a Catholic church . . . " As if.

 

[Ravi]

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

If the parents can prove that, then they have a case. What I am hearing from some here between the lines that it would have been OK if the kids had gone in the same situation to a house of faith in which the parents believed. That is hypocritical.

Did you watch the clip? It says what the permission slip was for. Did you hear the shock in the woman voice when she saw the boys in line to pray and what was taking place?

You realize the woman speaking wasn't the mother...it was a freaking actress.

 

[Ravi]

But you're missing it.

I think the real problem is that our own government is promoting it. Bil Clinton got together with Almadoudi (now in jail for terrorism) along with a bunch of pseudo religious organizations and hammered it out. His appointed judge Phyllis Hamilton ruled teachers can REQUIRE kids to get on their hands and knees and pray to Allah out loud from memory, the prayer that people speak to become muslims.

Our corrupt government is more the problem than Muslims.

woohooo! The board idiot has returned.

PARTY TIME!!!

 

[syrenn]

If the parents can prove that, then they have a case. What I am hearing from some here between the lines that it would have been OK if the kids had gone in the same situation to a house of faith in which the parents believed. That is hypocritical.

Did you watch the clip? It says what the permission slip was for. Did you hear the shock in the woman voice when she saw the boys in line to pray and what was taking place?

You realize the woman speaking wasn't the mother...it was a freaking actress.

I know the parts with the actress...That is not what i am hearing... pay close attention to the actual footage and listen carefully... she says "Oh my god" when she pans around and sees the boys.

 

[Ravi]

Did you watch the clip? It says what the permission slip was for. Did you hear the shock in the woman voice when she saw the boys in line to pray and what was taking place?

You realize the woman speaking wasn't the mother...it was a freaking actress.

I know the parts with the actress...That is not what i am hearing... pay close attention to the actual footage and listen carefully... she says "Oh my god" when she pans around and sees the boys.

Does she, or was that edit in as well? My guess is that it was edited in.

If a mother was that upset she wouldn't sit there calmly filming what was going on around her.

 

[syrenn]

You realize the woman speaking wasn't the mother...it was a freaking actress.

I know the parts with the actress...That is not what i am hearing... pay close attention to the actual footage and listen carefully... she says "Oh my god" when she pans around and sees the boys.

Does she, or was that edit in as well? My guess is that it was edited in.

If a mother was that upset she wouldn't sit there calmly filming what was going on around her.

Somethings happen to fast to react and it doesn't sound like an edit to me. The actress "voice" states that she was waiting for the teachers to do something. I am guessing no one was willing to intrude on the prayer regardless of what was happening. I am not sure what sex her child was, it could be that her child was a girl..and not part of the prayer...which is why she didn't intervene...as it was not her child.


edit: listen at about 5 mins 47 seconds into the clip.

 

[Wicked Jester]

But you're missing it.

I think the real problem is that our own government is promoting it. Bil Clinton got together with Almadoudi (now in jail for terrorism) along with a bunch of pseudo religious organizations and hammered it out. His appointed judge Phyllis Hamilton ruled teachers can REQUIRE kids to get on their hands and knees and pray to Allah out loud from memory, the prayer that people speak to become muslims.

Our corrupt government is more the problem than Muslims.

woohooo! The board idiot has returned.

PARTY TIME!!!

Yeah, we know, you returned......Now go away...The adults are having a conversation here.

 

[Ravi]

I know the parts with the actress...That is not what i am hearing... pay close attention to the actual footage and listen carefully... she says "Oh my god" when she pans around and sees the boys.

Does she, or was that edit in as well? My guess is that it was edited in.

If a mother was that upset she wouldn't sit there calmly filming what was going on around her.

Somethings happen to fast to react and it doesn't sound like an edit to me. The actress "voice" states that she was waiting for the teachers to do something. I am guessing no one was willing to intrude on the prayer regardless of what was happening. I am not sure what sex her child was, it could be that her child was a girl..and not part of the prayer...which is why she didn't intervene...as it was not her child.

She, the actress, said she was looking around...if she had been the camera would have been jittering around as well. And the mic wouldn't have picked up her one whispered phrase...this is just pure stupidity and hysteria.

The entire video is bullshit. Some kids inadvertently were allowed to pray, not FORCED to pray...the principal apologized. End of story. Well, except some rightwingloons got a hold of the tape and edited it and hired someone to do a voice over...hmmm, what's Britelbart up to these days?

 

[Ravi]

But you're missing it.

I think the real problem is that our own government is promoting it. Bil Clinton got together with Almadoudi (now in jail for terrorism) along with a bunch of pseudo religious organizations and hammered it out. His appointed judge Phyllis Hamilton ruled teachers can REQUIRE kids to get on their hands and knees and pray to Allah out loud from memory, the prayer that people speak to become muslims.

Our corrupt government is more the problem than Muslims.

woohooo! The board idiot has returned.

PARTY TIME!!!

Yeah, we know, you returned......Now go away...The adults are having a conversation here.

You're no adult, you are an idiot with his panties permanently wedged up his stupid ass.

 

[Valerie]

You realize the woman speaking wasn't the mother...it was a freaking actress.

I know the parts with the actress...That is not what i am hearing... pay close attention to the actual footage and listen carefully... she says "Oh my god" when she pans around and sees the boys.

Does she, or was that edit in as well? My guess is that it was edited in.

If a mother was that upset she wouldn't sit there calmly filming what was going on around her.

And then she didn't report until now when it happened last year???

 

[Valerie]

Does she, or was that edit in as well? My guess is that it was edited in.

If a mother was that upset she wouldn't sit there calmly filming what was going on around her.

Somethings happen to fast to react and it doesn't sound like an edit to me. The actress "voice" states that she was waiting for the teachers to do something. I am guessing no one was willing to intrude on the prayer regardless of what was happening. I am not sure what sex her child was, it could be that her child was a girl..and not part of the prayer...which is why she didn't intervene...as it was not her child.

She, the actress, said she was looking around...if she had been the camera would have been jittering around as well. And the mic wouldn't have picked up her one whispered phrase...this is just pure stupidity and hysteria.

The entire video is bullshit. Some kids inadvertently were allowed to pray, not FORCED to pray...the principal apologized. End of story. Well, except some rightwingloons got a hold of the tape and edited it and hired someone to do a voice over...hmmm, what's Britelbart up to these days?

Yep, I agree with you here.

 

[syrenn]

Does she, or was that edit in as well? My guess is that it was edited in.

If a mother was that upset she wouldn't sit there calmly filming what was going on around her.

Somethings happen to fast to react and it doesn't sound like an edit to me. The actress "voice" states that she was waiting for the teachers to do something. I am guessing no one was willing to intrude on the prayer regardless of what was happening. I am not sure what sex her child was, it could be that her child was a girl..and not part of the prayer...which is why she didn't intervene...as it was not her child.

She, the actress, said she was looking around...if she had been the camera would have been jittering around as well. And the mic wouldn't have picked up her one whispered phrase...this is just pure stupidity and hysteria.

The entire video is bullshit. Some kids inadvertently were allowed to pray, not FORCED to pray...the principal apologized. End of story. Well, except some rightwingloons got a hold of the tape and edited it and hired someone to do a voice over...hmmm, what's Britelbart up to these days?

I don't think they were forced....more like group pressured. Either way though, it was wrong, and yes i know the principal apologized.

Listen to it at 5 mins 47 seconds... It sounds real to me.

 

[Wicked Jester]

woohooo! The board idiot has returned.

PARTY TIME!!!

Yeah, we know, you returned......Now go away...The adults are having a conversation here.

You're no adult, you are an idiot with his panties permanently wedged up his stupid ass.

Yeah, sure, uh huh.....Now go away......The adults are having a conversation here.

 

[Valerie]

Just think of the horror of all those Christian kids invited to their friends Bat Mitzvahs..The Torah..Oh the horror!

 

[Charles_Main]

Somethings happen to fast to react and it doesn't sound like an edit to me. The actress "voice" states that she was waiting for the teachers to do something. I am guessing no one was willing to intrude on the prayer regardless of what was happening. I am not sure what sex her child was, it could be that her child was a girl..and not part of the prayer...which is why she didn't intervene...as it was not her child.

She, the actress, said she was looking around...if she had been the camera would have been jittering around as well. And the mic wouldn't have picked up her one whispered phrase...this is just pure stupidity and hysteria.

The entire video is bullshit. Some kids inadvertently were allowed to pray, not FORCED to pray...the principal apologized. End of story. Well, except some rightwingloons got a hold of the tape and edited it and hired someone to do a voice over...hmmm, what's Britelbart up to these days?

I don't think they were forced....more like group pressured. Either way though, it was wrong, and yes i know the principal apologized.

Listen to it at 5 mins 47 seconds... It sounds real to me.

The point is as part of a public school field trip. They should have never been in the position to be forced to, encouraged to, or just choose to prey to any god. If this exact same thing had happened in a Catholic church. The usual suspect Secularist at all cost crowd would be screaming from the top of their lungs about it.

 

[syrenn]

Just think of the horror of all those Christian kids invited to their friends Bat Mitzvahs..The Torah..Oh the horror!

That would be on private time and not part of a public school field trip. Big difference.

 

[Ravi]

Yeah, we know, you returned......Now go away...The adults are having a conversation here.

You're no adult, you are an idiot with his panties permanently wedged up his stupid ass.

Yeah, sure, uh huh.....Now go away......The adults are having a conversation here.

Hey, I hear you live next to an elementary school...have you sent them a copy of your pornographic prose about Obama's elementary school aged daughters?

 

[Ravi]

Just think of the horror of all those Christian kids invited to their friends Bat Mitzvahs..The Torah..Oh the horror!

I know...my son went to his best friend's, as did my daughter. They actually bowed their heads when praying was going on!!! The horror!!! I think one of them even whispered, please God, let the guinea pig be all right.