Public school children forced to pray to Allah

[Wicked Jester]

I must have missed something in the Parental Outrage Class....cause I didn't go all ape shit when my daughter visited the local Catholic Missions in San Diego and Oceanside. Nor when they went to a local Synagogue while studying Anne Frank and the Holocaust.

Apples and Oranges. You obvioulsy don't get it........Was your daughter seperated and told it was ok to pray, even though that may go against your beliefs. That it may go against the beliefs you are trying to instill?

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, TJ, you are lying. That is not what happened. Tell the truth, please.

 

[ConHog]

you libbies are such liars. If this class had went to a Christian school and prayed everyone of you would have been down at the school protesting.

Now is it a big deal? No , not really as ABS says one afternoon isnt going to **** a kid up, and certainly the school apologized and won't let it happen again. BUT, it was wrong. The fact that you can't just admit that proves what a bunch of low life idiots you are.

PS - Ravi, I have a question for you - If you think Islam is so great and peaceful why did you get so outraged over my stated hope, and I do wish it for you, that you marry a devout Muslim? Maybe Sunni or Kalam would take you on as wives 2 and 3.

 

[Wicked Jester]

I must have missed something in the Parental Outrage Class....cause I didn't go all ape shit when my daughter visited the local Catholic Missions in San Diego and Oceanside. Nor when they went to a local Synagogue while studying Anne Frank and the Holocaust.

Lets even put into a more clear context for ya'!

How would you feel if while on that PUBLIC shool field trip to the Catholic Mission, your child was led into the church and was allowed to sit and listen to a priest give a sermon on the deviance of homosexuals. Allowed to sit and listen to the fact that they will eventually burn in a lake o' fire due to their deviant ways.

YOU would have no problem with that....When nothing on the "permission slip" stated that it would happen?

LMAO!

 

[syrenn]

Rasul Allah (SAWS) would be surprised to hear that.

Narrated Abu Sa'id; Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet said, "When a man wakes himself at night and awakens his wife and they pray two rak'ahs together, they are recorded among the men and women who make much mention of Allah." - Sunan Abu Dawud, Prayer, no. 1446.​

But don't let that stop you from being a stupid twit.

Are they allowed to worship together at mosque?

Men and women in congregations pray on different sides of the mosque or with women behind men. Having men behind women during sujud would be awkward, to say the least.

Now if they were in mini skirts i would agree with you. Unless you are saying all the men are perves and cant control themselves, peeking up womens asses. You know not keeping their mind on god but the ass in front of them. Then again what if the men are gay? That could be an issue.

 

[syrenn]

Once again the board liberals have thrown their "separation of church and state" argument out the window to facilitate their full support of the most violent, bloody, murderous bastard religion on earth. I guess it makes no difference to them that in the name of that religion, more Americans have met their death than any other heinous act of cowardice in history. Yeah go ahead. Take the kids to a mosque, lie to them, show them the girls are lower than the boys and then make them pray. It's all good. Home grown muslim converts work just as well as born into it when it comes to a terrorist.

BUT DON'T YOU DARE, EVER, TELL A SCHOOL KID ABOUT A BIBLE OR TAKE THEM TO A CHURCH!!! Then the old "separation of church and state" line will come out again, and all of a sudden the atheism will flare up. It appears the only religion the liberals don't give a shit about having pushed on their kids is islam. More hypocrisy and STUPIDITY from the left.

You are a silly lost rider, are you not?

The issue is parental permission not your loony political lack of sense.

Sign or don't sign the parental permission slip is the point here.

Get on board and stop swimming around the ship.

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Then I would imagine that if the evangelical pastor was doing that, you made a mistake in not withdrawing your child from the trip, because the school told the parents what was going to happen.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Once again the board liberals have thrown their "separation of church and state" argument out the window to facilitate their full support of the most violent, bloody, murderous bastard religion on earth. I guess it makes no difference to them that in the name of that religion, more Americans have met their death than any other heinous act of cowardice in history. Yeah go ahead. Take the kids to a mosque, lie to them, show them the girls are lower than the boys and then make them pray. It's all good. Home grown muslim converts work just as well as born into it when it comes to a terrorist.

BUT DON'T YOU DARE, EVER, TELL A SCHOOL KID ABOUT A BIBLE OR TAKE THEM TO A CHURCH!!! Then the old "separation of church and state" line will come out again, and all of a sudden the atheism will flare up. It appears the only religion the liberals don't give a shit about having pushed on their kids is islam. More hypocrisy and STUPIDITY from the left.

You are a silly lost rider, are you not?

The issue is parental permission not your loony political lack of sense.

Sign or don't sign the parental permission slip is the point here.

Get on board and stop swimming around the ship.

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

If the parents can prove that, then they have a case. What I am hearing from some here between the lines that it would have been OK if the kids had gone in the same situation to a house of faith in which the parents believed. That is hypocritical.

 

[Kalam]

Are they allowed to worship together at mosque?

Men and women in congregations pray on different sides of the mosque or with women behind men. Having men behind women during sujud would be awkward, to say the least.

Now if they were in mini skirts i would agree with you. Unless you are saying all the men are perves and cant control themselves, peeking up womens asses. You know not keeping their mind on god but the ass in front of them. Then again what if the men are gay? That could be an issue.

When your face is inches away from a woman who is in that position, God is probably not going to be the first thing on your mind regardless of whether she's wearing a skirt or not. This isn't unreasonable and you know it.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Then I would imagine that if the evangelical pastor was doing that, you made a mistake in not withdrawing your child from the trip, because the school told the parents what was going to happen.

What the **** are you talking about, Jane?

 

[syrenn]

But that is neither here nor there. I have no problem with kids learning about other religions as part of a comprehensive comparative religion program. I think those things foster understanding and stop the kind of incessant hatred that we hear from loons of every stripe.

Agreed. But how would it be if they took jewish and muslim children into a catholic church, made them kneel, gave them each a wafer and a sip of something to drink. I don't think that would go over so well.

Observing other religions prayers is one thing, participating in them is something totally different.

 

[ConHog]

Once again the board liberals have thrown their "separation of church and state" argument out the window to facilitate their full support of the most violent, bloody, murderous bastard religion on earth. I guess it makes no difference to them that in the name of that religion, more Americans have met their death than any other heinous act of cowardice in history. Yeah go ahead. Take the kids to a mosque, lie to them, show them the girls are lower than the boys and then make them pray. It's all good. Home grown muslim converts work just as well as born into it when it comes to a terrorist.

BUT DON'T YOU DARE, EVER, TELL A SCHOOL KID ABOUT A BIBLE OR TAKE THEM TO A CHURCH!!! Then the old "separation of church and state" line will come out again, and all of a sudden the atheism will flare up. It appears the only religion the liberals don't give a shit about having pushed on their kids is islam. More hypocrisy and STUPIDITY from the left.

You are a silly lost rider, are you not?

The issue is parental permission not your loony political lack of sense.

Sign or don't sign the parental permission slip is the point here.

Get on board and stop swimming around the ship.

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

Not to mention that a permission slip can't grant a school the right to do something which ins unconstitutional. That is the part they are missing.

 

[Wicked Jester]

You are a silly lost rider, are you not?

The issue is parental permission not your loony political lack of sense.

Sign or don't sign the parental permission slip is the point here.

Get on board and stop swimming around the ship.

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

If the parents can prove that, then they have a case. What I am hearing from some here between the lines that it would have been OK if the kids had gone in the same situation to a house of faith in which the parents believed. That is hypocritical.

It was already clearly proven hence, the superintendent apologized. And what you are hearing is not what's being said.....Get a ******* clue!

Clearly the parents knew the students were going to a house of worship. No where in that permission slip did it state they would be participating in prayers towards Allah during the trip to the house of worship.

 

[syrenn]

You are a silly lost rider, are you not?

The issue is parental permission not your loony political lack of sense.

Sign or don't sign the parental permission slip is the point here.

Get on board and stop swimming around the ship.

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

If the parents can prove that, then they have a case. What I am hearing from some here between the lines that it would have been OK if the kids had gone in the same situation to a house of faith in which the parents believed. That is hypocritical.

Did you watch the clip? It says what the permission slip was for. Did you hear the shock in the woman voice when she saw the boys in line to pray and what was taking place?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The superintendent apologized for something that has not been made clear. I think s/he waffled on the issue. If the school was not clear, then so be it. If the school was clear, the stupidity is on the part of parents not doing their due diligence. Neither of these points have been made clear. Any outrage over it then is manufactured and can be dismissed until the full facts come in.

 

[JakeStarkey]

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

If the parents can prove that, then they have a case. What I am hearing from some here between the lines that it would have been OK if the kids had gone in the same situation to a house of faith in which the parents believed. That is hypocritical.

Did you watch the clip? It says what the permission slip was for. Did you hear the shock in the woman voice when she saw the boys in line to pray and what was taking place?

Obviously that shows she was not paying attention. Now if her reaction is accurate to what actually happened, then I agree with her. But it may be nothing more than an unaware mother. Let's get all the facts, and I don't think the clip is all there is on the issue.

 

[syrenn]

You are a silly lost rider, are you not?

The issue is parental permission not your loony political lack of sense.

Sign or don't sign the parental permission slip is the point here.

Get on board and stop swimming around the ship.

They signed a permission slip:

To view the architecture and observe the prayer. No more and no less. Anything else beyond that permission is wrong.

If the parents can prove that, then they have a case. What I am hearing from some here between the lines that it would have been OK if the kids had gone in the same situation to a house of faith in which the parents believed. That is hypocritical.

I can only speak for myself. I don't have a problem with the children visiting the mosque. I would have signed the permission slip too for what it stated. The problems i have are that the girls were segregated and the boys were actively recruited to pray.... to a god not of my choosing.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Pull your head out, Jack Fate. I am talking to someone who thinks he can walk into a superindent's office and dictate how things will be. That is not the way it is or ever will be. Don't like it, withdraw your child. Run for the school board, but don't act the idiot here.

Jake STFU, the superintendent sent out a letter admitting the school was wrong. Admit that it was wrong and move on.

 

[syrenn]

Men and women in congregations pray on different sides of the mosque or with women behind men. Having men behind women during sujud would be awkward, to say the least.

Now if they were in mini skirts i would agree with you. Unless you are saying all the men are perves and cant control themselves, peeking up womens asses. You know not keeping their mind on god but the ass in front of them. Then again what if the men are gay? That could be an issue.

When your face is inches away from a woman who is in that position, God is probably not going to be the first thing on your mind regardless of whether she's wearing a skirt or not. This isn't unreasonable and you know it.

Yes i know Kalam, all men are dogs in that respect. Now what if they are homosexual how does that work out?

 

[pinqy]

I watched the video, no one was forced to pray. It's hard to tell from the video the full context of what the spokesperson was teaching how appropriate or not it was, so I can't speak as to that. But a trip to a mosque or a church or a synagogue is appropriate for cultural studies, it would just depend on the actual content.