Proud boys Show Us How It's Done in Portland

[alang1216]

My point was the way the established old guard blue bloods of both partiers united against Trump.

That Comey was a republican, did not mean he was not part of the Deep State push back against Trump.

And he actions certainly show that he was.

Except he may have cost Hillary the election with his last minute announcement of an investigation.

 

[justinacolmena]

Sounds like a political act by a GOP, Deep Stater

That's too bad. Establishment GOP Deep Staters are RINOs who have sold out our Constitution and their own souls same as the Democrats.

 

[Correll]

PB does have a history of violence. Did they intend violence if Antifa didn't come to them?

Actually, you can find instants of proud boy rallies where Antifa does not show up and nothing happens.


You can also find plenty of examples were antifa has a rally, no Proud BOys or other counter protestors show up and the Antifa goons go on a rampage.


Again, by your standards, Antifa is the bad guys and the Proud Boys are the good guys.

I remember my kids always saying "he hit me first". Or maybe that was the Israelis and the Palestinians... Whatever, they are both trapped in an endless cycle of violence and neither is innocent.

Sure. The system of Who Started It? can be abused. But it still matters. You know that. It matters who is attacking and who is defending themselves.

A loss for the left and the country?

Antifa, long before the Proud Boys started fighting back, would target conservative spreakers or events, and their goal was to use violence or the threat of violence to shut down speech they do not agree with.

Their "Wins" are when they deprive their enemies of their Right to Speech.


Now, describe a Proud Boys win.

 

[Correll]

Except he may have cost Hillary the election with his last minute announcement of an investigation.

By announcing that the incident did NOT rise to the level of a crime and that no charges would be filed?

Even though the first draft used language that WOULD require charges being filed?

No. That did not cost Hillary the election.

 

[WEATHER53]

When police fail to respond, we don’t fail

 

[colfax_m]

Your assumption is not supported by the events, as my conclusion is.

You surely noticed that mine was backed up by news reports while yours is just you talking shit about your enemies.

It is. They come from all over the country to Oregon.

Didn’t you know a good number of these guys have been convicted of assault?

 

[colfax_m]

LOL!!!They had to release a final conclusion of their investigation. Extending the already done investigation until after the election, (ie after Hillary's election (as they assumed)) would have looked even worse and would have been even more obviously political.


THey thought they could soften the impact, to the point that it would not derail her election. And they were probably right. I dont' think that it was that important in the final analysis.


BUT, their actions showed that the FBI had become political and partisan.

The Deep State Conspiracy Theory is not longer theory but established and documented fact.

There is no requirement they release a final conclusion. This is especially true when the conclusion is no charges.

Soften the impact? That’s ridiculous. They went out of their way to attack Clinton in a completely unnecessary way. If they intended to soften the impact, they would have said nothing or would have said that she committed no crimes. End.

 

[Turtlesoup]

haha, bunch of sissies.

"Hey, let's get together in our princess cosplay soldier costumes and try to single out individuals to gang up on."

The Proud Sissies.

Bwahahhahaha.....geesus!! Did you not watch the video? Anti/blm pussys greatly outnumbered the proudboys who ran them off and then tilted the antifa assholes van that had to try run into the proud boys. The Proud boys didn't gang up-----

 

[MadChemist]

Still fun to watch.

How do those clowns get those Sam's Club sized mace sprayers ?

 

[alang1216]

That's too bad. Establishment GOP Deep Staters are RINOs who have sold out our Constitution and their own souls same as the Democrats.

Always nice to hear from someone so ideologically pure even their allies are their enemies. Best of luck.

 

[22lcidw]

There is no requirement they release a final conclusion. This is especially true when the conclusion is no charges.

Soften the impact? That’s ridiculous. They went out of their way to attack Clinton in a completely unnecessary way. If they intended to soften the impact, they would have said nothing or would have said that she committed no crimes. End.

In what way is the United States worse for wear in the politics you support then in 1970? The greatest social changes in history have occurred. However the fly in the ointment and a dangerous diseased one is that it coincides with the greatest tax expansion in human history. And taxes needs to get much much higher. either through legislation of state, local and federal levels and/or inflation orchestrated by the political class.

 

[alang1216]

Now, describe a Proud Boys win.

A democratically elected government is prevented from taking power.

 

[alang1216]

By announcing that the incident did NOT rise to the level of a crime and that no charges would be filed?

Even though the first draft used language that WOULD require charges being filed?

No. That did not cost Hillary the election.

Hillary Clinton would probably be president if FBI Director James Comey had not sent a letter to Congress on Oct. 28. The letter, which said the FBI had “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation” into the private email server that Clinton used as secretary of state, upended the news cycle and soon halved Clinton’s lead in the polls, imperiling her position in the Electoral College.

 

[Correll]

It is. They come from all over the country to Oregon.

Didn’t you know a good number of these guys have been convicted of assault?

Already addressed. Yes, it is provocative to be in a dem stronghold city, speaking things they disagree with.


Think about that for a minute. THe very act of them BEING IN TEH CITY AND SAYING SOMETHING LIBERALS DISAGREE WITH, IS THEM BEING PROVOCATIVE.


Yet, the responsibility for the actions of the liberals in question, ie ATTACKING the Freedom of Speech March(s), is on the liberal attackers, not on their targets.


That you are trying so hard to hide from that simple truth, shows which side you are on.

 

[Correll]

There is no requirement they release a final conclusion. This is especially true when the conclusion is no charges.

Soften the impact? That’s ridiculous. They went out of their way to attack Clinton in a completely unnecessary way. If they intended to soften the impact, they would have said nothing or would have said that she committed no crimes. End.

Really? YOu think that they could have concluded an investigation into a Presidential Candidate and not released their findings?

Even if they did something so painfully politically motivated, it would have taken HOURS for some republican to file a Freedom of Information Act, demanding the results, and rightfully so.


And why would they even WANT to do such a thing? THe people obviously have a right to know what was found out about a public figure accused of a crime.


You seem to be acknowledging that they had a political motive already. What are you even talking about if you admit that?

 

[colfax_m]

Already addressed. Yes, it is provocative to be in a dem stronghold city, speaking things they disagree with.


Think about that for a minute. THe very act of them BEING IN TEH CITY AND SAYING SOMETHING LIBERALS DISAGREE WITH, IS THEM BEING PROVOCATIVE.


Yet, the responsibility for the actions of the liberals in question, ie ATTACKING the Freedom of Speech March(s), is on the liberal attackers, not on their targets.


That you are trying so hard to hide from that simple truth, shows which side you are on.

The provocation is the point. They’re there so that they can engage in violence.

That’s the purpose.

 

[colfax_m]

Really? YOu think that they could have concluded an investigation into a Presidential Candidate and not released their findings?

Even if they did something so painfully politically motivated, it would have taken HOURS for some republican to file a Freedom of Information Act, demanding the results, and rightfully so.


And why would they even WANT to do such a thing? THe people obviously have a right to know what was found out about a public figure accused of a crime.


You seem to be acknowledging that they had a political motive already. What are you even talking about if you admit that?

Yes, they could have not released their findings.

And yes, someone could have submitted a FOIA request for the results.

And if that would have been how the FBI would have followed the rules but instead they went out of their way to break the rules and attack Clinton.

So you’ve yet to point out how what they did helped Clinton.

 

[Correll]

A democratically elected government is prevented from taking power.

Nope. A Proud Boy win is them having their little speaking event.


Your refusal to face the reality of the situation, is you doubling down in support of brown shirt tactics by your side.


I'm sorry to see you take that path.

 

[Correll]

Hillary Clinton would probably be president if FBI Director James Comey had not sent a letter to Congress on Oct. 28. The letter, which said the FBI had “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation” into the private email server that Clinton used as secretary of state, upended the news cycle and soon halved Clinton’s lead in the polls, imperiling her position in the Electoral College.

Seems unlikely. Everyone already knew that Hillary considered herself above the Law.

And why would the head of the FBI suppress such information? Do you think it right and proper that they try to ensure a win by teh Dems? Are you so wedded to the idea of the Deep State that you think that it is the way it is SUPPOSED TO BE?

 

[alang1216]

Nope. A Proud Boy win is them having their little speaking event.

Do you often wear bulletproof vests to speaking events?