Proof Obama is a Muslim

[irosie91]

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.

I have discussed terrorism with my Muslim friends. While they will speak out one on one, they resist saying anything that could be construed as criticism of any other Muslims when there is a chance they may be overheard.

As far as burning crosses.... Any of that that still occurs is done by old guard Democrats of the KKK.

Lynching just don't happen any more. There is far more racially motivated murder and assault committed by what would be part of the Democrat base than by any group anyone could call Christian.

You want to make Christian fundamentalists and Conservatives out to be the bad guys here. I understand. Their values are standing in the way of your Socialist Utopia.

You want a Socialist Utopia? Head for Key West. Rent a boat and head due south for 90 miles. A decent boat will deliver you to your destination in under 3 hours.

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism. Seek and you will find-----muslims
in the USA ------who repudiate the 9-11 thing-----seek.
Long ago I watched an interview of FRAU HEDWIG WAGNER------widow of Richard Wagner----who was the son
of the big time WAGNER of the Wagnerian operas---faves of
adolf -----the jr was director of the 3rd reich opera. She laughed and said-----In 1945 she was the "ONLY NAZI" left in Germany-----suddenly everyone else hated hitler-----make that 'UNCLE ADOLF" as her many children did love
uncle adolf (for the record---the bitch was born in England----grew up in England----the "only" proud Nazi left in
Germany after world war II)

 

[irosie91]

doesn't matter if i have or not, there are no shaia only zones there.

of course, you think cancelling a festival is an infringement on your rights, so you've already proved your disconnect from reality

Yes I do think canceling a festival we have had for decades is an infringement on my rights. That is what muslims do, they take away your rights to suit themselves.

When Muslims form a small minority of a population, the message of Islam is "peace and tolerance" (Stealth Jihad). As numbers rise, so do complaints, as well as retaliatory attacks for perceived affronts (Defensive Jihad). When Muslims eventually establish a majority, all non-Muslims are violently subjugated (Offensive Jihad).

Sorry you can't see this.

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.s.

I would post citation after citation of Muslims doing exactly that- but I am quite confident it won't matter how many examples I show you- you will discount them.

My distrust of religious bigotry is based in part- upon the kinds of posts in this thread.

There is a real threat from Islamic extremism- from Muslims who want to or are violent.

But that is not automatically- or even likely- to be the Palestinian guy running the corner market, or the Pakistani family running the hotel you stop off at.

Yes----it is unlikely-----but it is far more likely than it would be if the corner market is run by a quaker or the hotel is run
by------for that matter HINDUS Furthermore ----it is virtually
inevitable that the muslim hotel family and he muslim corner
market ----have relatives who are active MUJAHADEEN-----
I have worked with muslims who----way back in the 90s boasted proudly of their TALIBAN relatives and past school chums------especially those who died in the noble act

Furthermore ----it is virtually
inevitable that the muslim hotel family and he muslim corner
market ----have relatives who are active MUJAHADEEN--

No- sorry- just your xenophobic imagination.

I am all in favor of targeting violent Muslim extremists- but not targeting people because they happen to be Muslim and you are convinced that that means they know terrorists.

how many muslims have you known well over the past 45 years? I have known scores---well enough to engage in
intimate conversation ----about "back home" family members, beliefs etc etc etc Yes----an educated person
from Pakistan is likely to have TALIBAN relatives or friends----sorry----but it is true. When did I suggest that muslims be
TARGETED?. I simply support surveillance of mosques

 

[Nosmo King]

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.

I have discussed terrorism with my Muslim friends. While they will speak out one on one, they resist saying anything that could be construed as criticism of any other Muslims when there is a chance they may be overheard.

As far as burning crosses.... Any of that that still occurs is done by old guard Democrats of the KKK.

Lynching just don't happen any more. There is far more racially motivated murder and assault committed by what would be part of the Democrat base than by any group anyone could call Christian.

You want to make Christian fundamentalists and Conservatives out to be the bad guys here. I understand. Their values are standing in the way of your Socialist Utopia.

You want a Socialist Utopia? Head for Key West. Rent a boat and head due south for 90 miles. A decent boat will deliver you to your destination in under 3 hours.

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism. Seek and you will find-----muslims
in the USA ------who repudiate the 9-11 thing-----seek.
Long ago I watched an interview of FRAU HEDWIG WAGNER------widow of Richard Wagner----who was the son
of the big time WAGNER of the Wagnerian operas---faves of
adolf -----the jr was director of the 3rd reich opera. She laughed and said-----In 1945 she was the "ONLY NAZI" left in Germany-----suddenly everyone else hated hitler-----make that 'UNCLE ADOLF" as her many children did love
uncle adolf (for the record---the bitch was born in England----grew up in England----the "only" proud Nazi left in
Germany after world war II)

No one is trying to " prove" there is nothing wrong with Islam! Your ham handed comparison to Nazi Germany not withstanding.

I am simply pointing out that a close minded, incurious, black and white view of the Muslim faith betrays an in-nuanced, uneducated and Puritanical world view. The American people are far too sophisticated to fall into such a bleak outlook.

However, there are Americans who do not seek any knowledge beyond that which is spoon fed to them by hate filled so-called pundits. These fear mongers merely validate the fears of the uneducated and feeble minded.

 

[Nosmo King]

doesn't matter if i have or not, there are no shaia only zones there.

of course, you think cancelling a festival is an infringement on your rights, so you've already proved your disconnect from reality

Yes I do think canceling a festival we have had for decades is an infringement on my rights. That is what muslims do, they take away your rights to suit themselves.

When Muslims form a small minority of a population, the message of Islam is "peace and tolerance" (Stealth Jihad). As numbers rise, so do complaints, as well as retaliatory attacks for perceived affronts (Defensive Jihad). When Muslims eventually establish a majority, all non-Muslims are violently subjugated (Offensive Jihad).

Sorry you can't see this.

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.s.

I would post citation after citation of Muslims doing exactly that- but I am quite confident it won't matter how many examples I show you- you will discount them.

My distrust of religious bigotry is based in part- upon the kinds of posts in this thread.

There is a real threat from Islamic extremism- from Muslims who want to or are violent.

But that is not automatically- or even likely- to be the Palestinian guy running the corner market, or the Pakistani family running the hotel you stop off at.

Yes----it is unlikely-----but it is far more likely than it would be if the corner market is run by a quaker or the hotel is run
by------for that matter HINDUS Furthermore ----it is virtually
inevitable that the muslim hotel family and he muslim corner
market ----have relatives who are active MUJAHADEEN-----
I have worked with muslims who----way back in the 90s boasted proudly of their TALIBAN relatives and past school chums------especially those who died in the noble act

Furthermore ----it is virtually
inevitable that the muslim hotel family and he muslim corner
market ----have relatives who are active MUJAHADEEN--

No- sorry- just your xenophobic imagination.

I am all in favor of targeting violent Muslim extremists- but not targeting people because they happen to be Muslim and you are convinced that that means they know terrorists.

how many muslims have you known well over the past 45 years? I have known scores---well enough to engage in
intimate conversation ----about "back home" family members, beliefs etc etc etc Yes----an educated person
from Pakistan is likely to have TALIBAN relatives or friends----sorry----but it is true. When did I suggest that muslims be
TARGETED?. I simply support surveillance of mosques

Not really up on your knowledge of the constitution, are you? Surveillance of mosques is a play directly out of that Nazi playbook. Authoritarian, feckless, repressive. In short, everything the block headed Conservative would embrace.

 

[Syriusly]

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.

I have discussed terrorism with my Muslim friends. While they will speak out one on one, they resist saying anything that could be construed as criticism of any other Muslims when there is a chance they may be overheard.

As far as burning crosses.... Any of that that still occurs is done by old guard Democrats of the KKK.

Lynching just don't happen any more. There is far more racially motivated murder and assault committed by what would be part of the Democrat base than by any group anyone could call Christian.

You want to make Christian fundamentalists and Conservatives out to be the bad guys here. I understand. Their values are standing in the way of your Socialist Utopia.

You want a Socialist Utopia? Head for Key West. Rent a boat and head due south for 90 miles. A decent boat will deliver you to your destination in under 3 hours.

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

 

[irosie91]

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.

I have discussed terrorism with my Muslim friends. While they will speak out one on one, they resist saying anything that could be construed as criticism of any other Muslims when there is a chance they may be overheard.

As far as burning crosses.... Any of that that still occurs is done by old guard Democrats of the KKK.

Lynching just don't happen any more. There is far more racially motivated murder and assault committed by what would be part of the Democrat base than by any group anyone could call Christian.

You want to make Christian fundamentalists and Conservatives out to be the bad guys here. I understand. Their values are standing in the way of your Socialist Utopia.

You want a Socialist Utopia? Head for Key West. Rent a boat and head due south for 90 miles. A decent boat will deliver you to your destination in under 3 hours.

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism. Seek and you will find-----muslims
in the USA ------who repudiate the 9-11 thing-----seek.
Long ago I watched an interview of FRAU HEDWIG WAGNER------widow of Richard Wagner----who was the son
of the big time WAGNER of the Wagnerian operas---faves of
adolf -----the jr was director of the 3rd reich opera. She laughed and said-----In 1945 she was the "ONLY NAZI" left in Germany-----suddenly everyone else hated hitler-----make that 'UNCLE ADOLF" as her many children did love
uncle adolf (for the record---the bitch was born in England----grew up in England----the "only" proud Nazi left in
Germany after world war II)

No one is trying to " prove" there is nothing wrong with Islam! Your ham handed comparison to Nazi Germany not withstanding.

I am simply pointing out that a close minded, incurious, black and white view of the Muslim faith betrays an in-nuanced, uneducated and Puritanical world view. The American people are far too sophisticated to fall into such a bleak outlook.

However, there are Americans who do not seek any knowledge beyond that which is spoon fed to them by hate filled so-called pundits. These fear mongers merely validate the fears of the uneducated and feeble minded.

I absolutely agree with you. I had a very positive view of islam before I began to learn about it in detail. Contrary to the suspicions of biased people on this board-----I had no biases whatsoever from childhood. I was brought up in a
completely secular household, had no religious education at all except for an occasional few hours in Sunday school with a protestant playmate ------and my one intro to islam was something like "they are like jews----they do not eat pork"---
my mom baked a mean clove studded ham. Then I ran into
muslims

 

[Syriusly]

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.

I have discussed terrorism with my Muslim friends. While they will speak out one on one, they resist saying anything that could be construed as criticism of any other Muslims when there is a chance they may be overheard.

As far as burning crosses.... Any of that that still occurs is done by old guard Democrats of the KKK.

Lynching just don't happen any more. There is far more racially motivated murder and assault committed by what would be part of the Democrat base than by any group anyone could call Christian.

You want to make Christian fundamentalists and Conservatives out to be the bad guys here. I understand. Their values are standing in the way of your Socialist Utopia.

You want a Socialist Utopia? Head for Key West. Rent a boat and head due south for 90 miles. A decent boat will deliver you to your destination in under 3 hours.

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism. Seek and you will find-----muslims
in the USA ------who repudiate the 9-11 thing-----seek.
Long ago I watched an interview of FRAU HEDWIG WAGNER------widow of Richard Wagner----who was the son
of the big time WAGNER of the Wagnerian operas---faves of
adolf -----the jr was director of the 3rd reich opera. She laughed and said-----In 1945 she was the "ONLY NAZI" left in Germany-----suddenly everyone else hated hitler-----make that 'UNCLE ADOLF" as her many children did love
uncle adolf (for the record---the bitch was born in England----grew up in England----the "only" proud Nazi left in
Germany after world war II)

No one is trying to " prove" there is nothing wrong with Islam! Your ham handed comparison to Nazi Germany not withstanding.

I am simply pointing out that a close minded, incurious, black and white view of the Muslim faith betrays an in-nuanced, uneducated and Puritanical world view. The American people are far too sophisticated to fall into such a bleak outlook.

However, there are Americans who do not seek any knowledge beyond that which is spoon fed to them by hate filled so-called pundits. These fear mongers merely validate the fears of the uneducated and feeble minded.

Yeah- I dont' care much for doctrines of Islam- but that doesn't mean I have to accept the wholesale villainization of 1 billion muslims.

 

[Syriusly]

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism. Seek and you will find-----muslims
in the USA ------who repudiate the 9-11 thing-----seek.
Long ago I watched an interview of FRAU HEDWIG WAGNER------widow of Richard Wagner----who was the son
of the big time WAGNER of the Wagnerian operas---faves of
adolf -----the jr was director of the 3rd reich opera. She laughed and said-----In 1945 she was the "ONLY NAZI" left in Germany-----suddenly everyone else hated hitler-----make that 'UNCLE ADOLF" as her many children did love
uncle adolf (for the record---the bitch was born in England----grew up in England----the "only" proud Nazi left in
Germany after world war II)

No one is trying to " prove" there is nothing wrong with Islam! Your ham handed comparison to Nazi Germany not withstanding.

I am simply pointing out that a close minded, incurious, black and white view of the Muslim faith betrays an in-nuanced, uneducated and Puritanical world view. The American people are far too sophisticated to fall into such a bleak outlook.

However, there are Americans who do not seek any knowledge beyond that which is spoon fed to them by hate filled so-called pundits. These fear mongers merely validate the fears of the uneducated and feeble minded.

I absolutely agree with you. I had a very positive view of islam before I began to learn about it in detail. Contrary to the suspicions of biased people on this board-----I had no biases whatsoever from childhood. I was brought up in a
completely secular household, had no religious education at all except for an occasional few hours in Sunday school with a protestant playmate ------and my one intro to islam was something like "they are like jews----they do not eat pork"---
my mom baked a mean clove studded ham. Then I ran into
muslims

Tell us more- did they beat you up? Steal your lunch money? Bomb your house?

I have known a large number of Muslims- Muslim Americans and Muslims who are living in America- and guess what- everyone I know is no 'different' to me than say a Mormon. Most are good people, most want to be good Americans. Their kids play soccer and basketball and yell at football games.

What horrible things did they do to you?

 

[irosie91]

Yes I do think canceling a festival we have had for decades is an infringement on my rights. That is what muslims do, they take away your rights to suit themselves.

When Muslims form a small minority of a population, the message of Islam is "peace and tolerance" (Stealth Jihad). As numbers rise, so do complaints, as well as retaliatory attacks for perceived affronts (Defensive Jihad). When Muslims eventually establish a majority, all non-Muslims are violently subjugated (Offensive Jihad).

Sorry you can't see this.

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.s.

I would post citation after citation of Muslims doing exactly that- but I am quite confident it won't matter how many examples I show you- you will discount them.

My distrust of religious bigotry is based in part- upon the kinds of posts in this thread.

There is a real threat from Islamic extremism- from Muslims who want to or are violent.

But that is not automatically- or even likely- to be the Palestinian guy running the corner market, or the Pakistani family running the hotel you stop off at.

Yes----it is unlikely-----but it is far more likely than it would be if the corner market is run by a quaker or the hotel is run
by------for that matter HINDUS Furthermore ----it is virtually
inevitable that the muslim hotel family and he muslim corner
market ----have relatives who are active MUJAHADEEN-----
I have worked with muslims who----way back in the 90s boasted proudly of their TALIBAN relatives and past school chums------especially those who died in the noble act

Furthermore ----it is virtually
inevitable that the muslim hotel family and he muslim corner
market ----have relatives who are active MUJAHADEEN--

No- sorry- just your xenophobic imagination.

I am all in favor of targeting violent Muslim extremists- but not targeting people because they happen to be Muslim and you are convinced that that means they know terrorists.

how many muslims have you known well over the past 45 years? I have known scores---well enough to engage in
intimate conversation ----about "back home" family members, beliefs etc etc etc Yes----an educated person
from Pakistan is likely to have TALIBAN relatives or friends----sorry----but it is true. When did I suggest that muslims be
TARGETED?. I simply support surveillance of mosques

Not really up on your knowledge of the constitution, are you? Surveillance of mosques is a play directly out of that Nazi playbook. Authoritarian, feckless, repressive. In short, everything the block headed Conservative would embrace.

without surveillance by the New York Police department ----
thousands would be dead in the gutters of Manhattan and in
the east river and the Hudson-------thanks for your input. I have been a democrat all my life----by inheritance. When
Kerry was on the ticket-----my vote against him was simply NOT VOTE------I never set my hand on the RIGHT side in my entire life------either democrat or nothing. For me-----opposition to a democrat on the ticket is ABSTENTION.

today----the reason the cops of Belgium are successful in rooing out the filth----SURVEILLANCE

 

[irosie91]

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.

I have discussed terrorism with my Muslim friends. While they will speak out one on one, they resist saying anything that could be construed as criticism of any other Muslims when there is a chance they may be overheard.

As far as burning crosses.... Any of that that still occurs is done by old guard Democrats of the KKK.

Lynching just don't happen any more. There is far more racially motivated murder and assault committed by what would be part of the Democrat base than by any group anyone could call Christian.

You want to make Christian fundamentalists and Conservatives out to be the bad guys here. I understand. Their values are standing in the way of your Socialist Utopia.

You want a Socialist Utopia? Head for Key West. Rent a boat and head due south for 90 miles. A decent boat will deliver you to your destination in under 3 hours.

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

 

[Syriusly]

doesn't matter if i have or not, there are no shaia only zones there.

of course, you think cancelling a festival is an infringement on your rights, so you've already proved your disconnect from reality

Yes I do think canceling a festival we have had for decades is an infringement on my rights. That is what muslims do, they take away your rights to suit themselves.

When Muslims form a small minority of a population, the message of Islam is "peace and tolerance" (Stealth Jihad). As numbers rise, so do complaints, as well as retaliatory attacks for perceived affronts (Defensive Jihad). When Muslims eventually establish a majority, all non-Muslims are violently subjugated (Offensive Jihad).

Sorry you can't see this.

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.s.

I would post citation after citation of Muslims doing exactly that- but I am quite confident it won't matter how many examples I show you- you will discount them.

My distrust of religious bigotry is based in part- upon the kinds of posts in this thread.

There is a real threat from Islamic extremism- from Muslims who want to or are violent.

But that is not automatically- or even likely- to be the Palestinian guy running the corner market, or the Pakistani family running the hotel you stop off at.

Yes----it is unlikely-----but it is far more likely than it would be if the corner market is run by a quaker or the hotel is run
by------for that matter HINDUS Furthermore ----it is virtually
inevitable that the muslim hotel family and he muslim corner
market ----have relatives who are active MUJAHADEEN-----
I have worked with muslims who----way back in the 90s boasted proudly of their TALIBAN relatives and past school chums------especially those who died in the noble act

Furthermore ----it is virtually
inevitable that the muslim hotel family and he muslim corner
market ----have relatives who are active MUJAHADEEN--

No- sorry- just your xenophobic imagination.

I am all in favor of targeting violent Muslim extremists- but not targeting people because they happen to be Muslim and you are convinced that that means they know terrorists.

how many muslims have you known well over the past 45 years? I have known scores---well enough to engage in
intimate conversation ----about "back home" family members, beliefs etc etc etc Yes----an educated person
from Pakistan is likely to have TALIBAN relatives or friends----sorry----but it is true. When did I suggest that muslims be
TARGETED?. I simply support surveillance of mosques

The population of Pakistan is 180 million and there are an estimated 60,000 Taliban in Afghanistan and Paksitan combined- and you known 'scores'- call it 60?

By the numbers 3 out of 10,000(.03%) Pakistani's might possibly be Taliban.

So no- not only do I not think that every Pakistani in American knows Taliban members, no I don't believe that every one of those people met actually knew Taliban.

 

[Syriusly]

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

Hmmm let me respond in kind.

You are have an alter to Adolf Eichmann in your living room and cheer every time a child is hit by a car. You would like to murder all 1,000,000,000 Muslims just so you would feel safer.

I have no problem sinking to your level if you want.

 

[irosie91]

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

Hmmm let me respond in kind.

You are have an alter to Adolf Eichmann in your living room and cheer every time a child is hit by a car. You would like to murder all 1,000,000,000 Muslims just so you would feel safer.

I have no problem sinking to your level if you want.

Of you imagine you responded "in kind"-----you are insane

 

[Syriusly]

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

Hmmm let me respond in kind.

You are have an alter to Adolf Eichmann in your living room and cheer every time a child is hit by a car. You would like to murder all 1,000,000,000 Muslims just so you would feel safer.

I have no problem sinking to your level if you want.

Of you imagine you responded "in kind"-----you are insane

I responded to your offensive lies about me- with offensive lies about you.

I notice you are not denying that you have an altar to Adolf Eichmann in your living room.....

 

[irosie91]

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

Hmmm let me respond in kind.

You are have an alter to Adolf Eichmann in your living room and cheer every time a child is hit by a car. You would like to murder all 1,000,000,000 Muslims just so you would feel safer.

I have no problem sinking to your level if you want.

Of you imagine you responded "in kind"-----you are insane

I responded to your offensive lies about me- with offensive lies about you.

I notice you are not denying that you have an altar to Adolf Eichmann in your living room.....

I notice that you are not denying that you murder and eat babies for fun

 

[Ernie S.]

I can't speak for others, but my distrust of Muslims stems from the fact that few of them condemn the acts of terrorism carried out by their radical brethren.

I have discussed terrorism with my Muslim friends. While they will speak out one on one, they resist saying anything that could be construed as criticism of any other Muslims when there is a chance they may be overheard.

As far as burning crosses.... Any of that that still occurs is done by old guard Democrats of the KKK.

Lynching just don't happen any more. There is far more racially motivated murder and assault committed by what would be part of the Democrat base than by any group anyone could call Christian.

You want to make Christian fundamentalists and Conservatives out to be the bad guys here. I understand. Their values are standing in the way of your Socialist Utopia.

You want a Socialist Utopia? Head for Key West. Rent a boat and head due south for 90 miles. A decent boat will deliver you to your destination in under 3 hours.

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

Wow 46? The Muslim world of a billion and a half should be so proud.

 

[Hossfly]

After reading most of the posts on this thread, my opinion is that Islam is the cancer of civilization and Liberals can't see it. Such a pity.

 

[Nosmo King]

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

I AM NOT WORSHIPING ANY HERO BUT MY DAD!!

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Surveillance of mosques is definitely an infringement of the First Amendment. Did you know that there was a mosque that was destroyed on September 11, 2001? It was in the Pentagon.

Should a cabal of disenfranchised Catholics wage open war on hospitals, schools (except for Notre Dame) and media outlets, would you favor staking out every parish?

If Southern Baptists start robbing banks to finance their scheme to destroy every in vitro clinic and stem cell research lab, would you favor praising God beside a spy?

How big and intrusive do you want government to become?

 

[Ernie S.]

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

I AM NOT WORSHIPING ANY HERO BUT MY DAD!!

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Surveillance of mosques is definitely an infringement of the First Amendment. Did you know that there was a mosque that was destroyed on September 11, 2001? It was in the Pentagon.

Should a cabal of disenfranchised Catholics wage open war on hospitals, schools (except for Notre Dame) and media outlets, would you favor staking out every parish?

If Southern Baptists start robbing banks to finance their scheme to destroy every in vitro clinic and stem cell research lab, would you favor praising God beside a spy?

How big and intrusive do you want government to become?

Show us where disenfranchised Catholics have waged war on hospitals, schools and the media! Is there any reason to expect Catholic extremists will commit any act of terrorism in the name of Catholicism?
Strawman!
How many times have Catholics hijacked planes and flew them into buildings? How many Baptists are on the no fly list?

LOOK! We all know that very few Muslims commit acts of terrorism, but if someone sets off a bomb in the New York City subways tomorrow at rush hour, the odds are 10,000:1 that it was a group of radical Muslims and not a coalition of pissed off Catholics and Baptists.

 

[Nosmo King]

There is no central authority in the Islamic world. No pope, no bishops or college of cardinals. If you are waiting for a blanket condemnation of radical Islam, I ask you this: which Christian authority condemned the violence in Northern Ireland?

I'm not seeking any type of utopia. I am refuting the meat headed opinions of those who want to paint all of Islam with the broad brush of hatred and fear due to the actions of a VERY small minority of Muslims.

None that I know of, not being familiar with papal history, though I wouldn't doubt that the Pope spoke out.
The point is, Christians all over the world spoke out as individuals. I see little of that from Muslims..

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

I AM NOT WORSHIPING ANY HERO BUT MY DAD!!

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Surveillance of mosques is definitely an infringement of the First Amendment. Did you know that there was a mosque that was destroyed on September 11, 2001? It was in the Pentagon.

Should a cabal of disenfranchised Catholics wage open war on hospitals, schools (except for Notre Dame) and media outlets, would you favor staking out every parish?

If Southern Baptists start robbing banks to finance their scheme to destroy every in vitro clinic and stem cell research lab, would you favor praising God beside a spy?

How big and intrusive do you want government to become?

I heard comment after comment by French Muslims who condemned the attacks- and those who would attack in the name of Islam. There was even the Muslim man who protected the shoppers in the kosher grocery.

Not that I expect you will ever be convinced otherwise.....but for what its worth.
46 examples of Muslim outrage about Paris shooting that Fox News can 8217 t seem to find

I am not impressed-----you might just as well cite
germans who did not take part in murder during the
1930s and 40s in order to PROVE there is nothing
wrong with Nazism.

Well I am sure you are not impressed.

And since you sunk to crying "Nazism" I realize that you just want to rage against the Ebil Mooslims.....because obviously the 10 year old Muslim in Springfield Illinois is just as guilty in your mind as the shooter in France.

your statement is idiotic-----surveillance of mosques---especially those known to have been the planning sites for the murders that so delight you-----has nothing to do with a ten year old muslim child. The mosques in jersey city were placed under surveillance because your BELOVED HERO
shaykh abdel Rahman planned his murder in his mosque over there-------I am not surprised that you worship murdering pigs.----especially those who murder children

I AM NOT WORSHIPING ANY HERO BUT MY DAD!!

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Surveillance of mosques is definitely an infringement of the First Amendment. Did you know that there was a mosque that was destroyed on September 11, 2001? It was in the Pentagon.

Should a cabal of disenfranchised Catholics wage open war on hospitals, schools (except for Notre Dame) and media outlets, would you favor staking out every parish?

If Southern Baptists start robbing banks to finance their scheme to destroy every in vitro clinic and stem cell research lab, would you favor praising God beside a spy?

How big and intrusive do you want government to become?

Show us where disenfranchised Catholics have waged war on hospitals, schools and the media! Is there any reason to expect Catholic extremists will commit any act of terrorism in the name of Catholicism?
Strawman!
How many times have Catholics hijacked planes and flew them into buildings? How many Baptists are on the no fly list?

LOOK! We all know that very few Muslims commit acts of terrorism, but if someone sets off a bomb in the New York City subways tomorrow at rush hour, the odds are 10,000:1 that it was a group of radical Muslims and not a coalition of pissed off Catholics and Baptists.

i used Catholics and Baptists as hypothetical examples, not strawman arguments.

Do you think that surveillance of mosques is in line with the First amendment?