Progressive Islamic forces must unite against destructive Islam

[rupol2000]

How are they anti american? Religion should not even be part of politics, it should be a private thing.

Yes, but Trump’s pseudo-Republicans are imposing on America a Judeo-Christianity alien to the American spirit.

 

[braalian]

Progressive Islam, represented by the peoples of Northern Afghanistan, Central Asia and others, cannot remain silent when the Islamic Axis of Evil is on the rampage.

Some Islamic preachers, especially Sufis, praised homosexuality and wars of conquest. As a result, villainous Islamic forces emerged, represented by the Taliban and Ba'ath. Representatives of these movements disgrace Islam, they are involved in homosexuality, pedophilia (Bacha Bazi), and aggressive Arab Nazism.

This must be stopped through the unification of progressive Islam with the assistance of the American Army.

You’re being surprisingly coherent for a change.

Relatively progressive Islam is always fragile. It seems to be overwhelmed every time by the extremists.

 

[francoHFW]

“Fundamental” in what sense? Islamic fundamentalism has nothing to do with "fundamentality". Maybe you meant Abrahamism?

I am speaking of fundamentalism as when religion is so important to people that they base their politics and legal systems on it. Thousands of years old and it doesn't work.... Religion should not be part of politics..... Just democracy And humanism and tolerance and privacy....

 

[francoHFW]

Yes, but Trump’s pseudo-Republicans are imposing on America a Judeo-Christianity alien to the American spirit.

You mean against democracy and tolerance and humanism and freedom?

 

[rupol2000]

I am speaking of fundamentalism as when religion is so important to people that they base their politics and legal systems on it. Thousands of years old and it doesn't work

What thousands of years? Islam emerged around the seventh century AD.

 

[rupol2000]

You mean against democracy and tolerance and humanism and freedom?

against freedom in the American sense. Judeo-Christianity was the religion of the totalitarian slave regimes of the Habsburgs in Old Europe. It is directed against American values of individual responsibility and the struggle for freedom against empires

 

[theHawk]

Where do you get the idea that the rabbis reject the Torah and Moses?

See our Religion section. Or just listen to Jews when confronted with scripture from the Torah. They deny the words and tap dance around uncomfortable verses.

 

[rupol2000]

See our Religion section. Or just listen to Jews when confronted with scripture from the Torah. They deny the words and tap dance around uncomfortable verses.

That's bullshit. The Jewish religion is based on the Torah and Tanakh, the Talmud only complements the scriptures

 

[theHawk]

against freedom in the American sense. Judeo-Christianity was the religion of the totalitarian slave regimes of the Habsburgs in Old Europe. It is directed against American values of individual responsibility and the struggle for freedom against empires

We don’t have “Judeo-Christianity”. That is a complete contradiction on terms. Modern Judaism is by definition anti-Christian because they reject Christ. So stop talking out of your ass.

 

[theHawk]

That's bullshit. The Jewish religion is based on the Torah and Tanakh, the Talmud only complements the scriptures

“Based on”, but ignores or writes off inconvenient chapters and verses. The Talmud was invented long after Jesus in order to redefine their entire religion. They dropped Mosaic Law and focused on their new pagan god. You should really learn more about it before making such comments.

 

[rupol2000]

We don’t have “Judeo-Christianity”. That is a complete contradiction on terms. Modern Judaism is by definition anti-Christian because they reject Christ. So stop talking out of your ass.

this is just more nonsense in the style of “plebeian religious studies”

 

[rupol2000]

Based on”, but ignores or writes off inconvenient chapters and verses. The Talmud was invented long after Jesus in order to redefine their entire religion. They dropped Mosaic Law and focused on their new pagan god.

This is also ignorant nonsense
All Abrahamists have the same Jewish god Yahweh

 

[theHawk]

This is also ignorant nonsense
All Abrahamists have the same Jewish god Yahweh

Not the same. They reject the divinity of the Angel of God in Genesis and Exodus, even though the scriptures clearly show the Angel(messenger) is divine. Just because they call their god by the same name as in the Bible, does not mean it’s the same. Same goes for Muslims and “Allah”, when they say Allah cannot be a “Father”, and their god commands the raping and selling of women and marrying young girls.

 

[braalian]

Not the same. They reject the divinity of the Angel of God in Genesis and Exodus, even though the scriptures clearly show the Angel(messenger) is divine. Just because they call their god by the same name as in the Bible, does not mean it’s the same. Same goes for Muslims and “Allah”, when they say Allah cannot be a “Father”, and their god commands the raping and selling of women and marrying young girls.

Once again, ‘Allah’ is the Arabic word for ‘God’.

Christians who speak Arabic say ‘Allah’

 

[rupol2000]

Just because they call their god by the same name as in the Bible, does not mean it’s the same.

Means. It's the same scripture.

 

[rupol2000]

nce again, ‘Allah’ is the Arabic word for ‘God’.

Christians who speak Arabic say ‘Allah’

Christians have a separate name, Elloh, similar to “Allah.” All this comes from the ancient Semitic word El

El (deity) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[theHawk]

Once again, ‘Allah’ is the Arabic word for ‘God’.

Christians who speak Arabic say ‘Allah’

I’m fully aware of that. That was the whole point I was making. Just because they use the same word, does not mean it’s the same God.

 

[francoHFW]

against freedom in the American sense. Judeo-Christianity was the religion of the totalitarian slave regimes of the Habsburgs in Old Europe. It is directed against American values of individual responsibility and the struggle for freedom against empires

All the religious wars in Europe were the main reasons they don't take religion too seriously over there anymore.... Fundamentalism not a problem. The church has been a conservative force and an obstruction to reform EVERYWHERE that's for sure.

 

[francoHFW]

I’m fully aware of that. That was the whole point I was making. Just because they use the same word, does not mean it’s the same God.

they also have the same prophets as Christians do except for Muhammad... Jesus is like number two for them. Your hate for them is like your hate for everything else, misinformed and brainwashed.....

 

[theHawk]

they also have the same prophets as Christians do except for Muhammad... Jesus is like number two for them. Your hate for them is like your hate for everything else, misinformed and brainwashed.....

They claim to revere Jesus, yet deny his own words. They are liars. You are the misinformed and brainwashed functional moron.