Professor: Hamas fakes casualty figures: ‘The numbers are not real’ [Gaza DEATH Ministry].

[Failzero]

Who would you let your Daughter or Granddaughter marry ( An Islamist ) or ( A Zionist ) ???

 

[Sayaras]

The Israelis refuse to even allow independent investigation of Oct 7 victims,

Not true. Unless you mean UN occupied by OIC [Islamic global bloc].
Then again, even the UN admitted to finding evidence of rape Jihad atrocities.

UN finds evidence of rape on Oct. 7 and after; Israel: They tried to downplay issue

Sex crimes official also says there's 'clear evidence' hostages faced and continue to face sexual assault in Gaza, says Oct. 7 victims suffered 'torture and other horrors'

www.timesofisrael.com

"Independent" you remond the 'reliable sources' (RS) decided by organized Arab club ar wikipedia..

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Not true. Unless you mean UN occupied by OIC [Islamic global bloc].
Then again, even the UN admitted to finding evidence of rape Jihad atrocities.

UN finds evidence of rape on Oct. 7 and after; Israel: They tried to downplay issue

Sex crimes official also says there's 'clear evidence' hostages faced and continue to face sexual assault in Gaza, says Oct. 7 victims suffered 'torture and other horrors'

www.timesofisrael.com

What's not true? specifically what are you claiming exactly, to be false?

This is from June 9th 2024, a few weeks ago:

Israel’s obstruction of investigation into 7 October rape allegations risks truth never being found, advocates warn​

Israel’s leadership is pushing the allegations that Hamas fighters raped Israeli women during the October 7 attacks for its own political objectives while the government’s ongoing refusal to allow the United Nations to conduct a full investigation into the matter threatens to hinder any evidence, advocates have warned.

Ask yourself, why does Israel not want the truth to be found? what kind of contrived, convoluted, ridiculous justification can you think up for this other than "They are lying"? They have a huge PR opportunity to publicly expose Hamas for sexual abuse here and they are not taking advantage of that, they know it makes them look like liars so why do it?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

This report just now, is very timely:

Source: Aljazeera

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

and this

These barbarians have even killed 500 doctors and nurses, could anything better convey the depravity of Zionism?

This is all proof of genocidal intent, killing doctors and nurses reduces the survival prospects of the injured, Israel's very own die Endlösung.

This has to be stupidest way ever devised to reduce the threat of terrorism against Israeli citizens.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I'm very curious about how Israel plans to avoid or handle a terrorist aircraft crashing into some of the tall Tel-Aviv skyscrapers? This happened to the United States (purportedly because of our support for Israel) and Israel did not change course so what will they do if it happens again but this time inside Israel itself?

 

[rylah]

This report just now, is very timely:

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Source: Aljazeera

and this

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These barbarians have even killed 500 doctors and nurses, could anything better convey the depravity of Zionism?

This is all proof of genocidal intent, killing doctors and nurses reduces the survival prospects of the injured, Israel's very own die Endlösung.

This has to be stupidest way ever devised to reduce the threat of terrorism against Israeli citizens.

Al-Jazeera is literally the Hamas main propaganda network.

Even according to their numbers, it's 10 times less than

previous year UN's Fracesca Albanes 420,000 lie...

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Al-Jazeera is literally the Hamas main propaganda network.

Even according to their numbers, it's 10 times less than

previous year UN's Fracesca Albanes 420,000 lie...

Well then what are the actual numbers? what sources can you suggest I go to to get accurate realistic statistics?

 

[rylah]

I'm very curious about how Israel plans to avoid or handle a terrorist aircraft crashing into some of the tall Tel-Aviv skyscrapers? This happened to the United States (purportedly because of our support for Israel) and Israel did not change course so what will they do if it happens again but this time inside Israel itself?

Because Islamists are never responsible for their degeneracy?

And you ask why Gaza doesn't have an airport.
Even if one doesn't know history, all it takes
is to listen to what Hamas supporters say.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Because Islamists are never responsible for their degeneracy?

And you ask why Gaza doesn't have an airport.
Even if one doesn't know history, all it takes
is to listen to what Hamas supporters say.

I think Israel's airports should all be taken out of service, the huge tonnage of weapons being brought in from their genocide enablers, needs to be brought to an end.

 

[rylah]

Well then what are the actual numbers? what sources can you suggest I go to to get accurate realistic statistics?

Well, the UN has corrected their statistics by half, what does it tell you already?

The coordinated "genocide" propaganda campaign started on 7th Oct too,
before IDF even entered Gaza. The whole theme is emotional extortion.

 

[rylah]

I think Israel's airports should all be taken out of service, the huge tonnage of weapons being brought in from their genocide enablers, needs to be brought to an end.

So you suggest not only flying planes into Tel-Aviv scrapers,
but also attacking an international airport?

Go on "invest" in the Gaza airport,
lead by example, sure Arab states
will join such lucrative enterprise.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Well, the UN has corrected their statistics by half, what does it tell you already?

You didn't answer my question - which source do you think is most reliable?

Also the UN never "corrected" anything, they clarified the data, if they were lying, deceiving they'd not have done that would they?

Adjusting and clarifying data is not wrong it is right, accuracy and clarity is important.

On 6 May, the UN stated that 69% of the reported deaths were women and children. However, just two days later, it revised this figure to 52%. Despite this adjustment, the overall death toll in Gaza remains over 35,000. The UN explained that incomplete information had led to the initial higher percentage and that they are now using figures from the Hamas-run health ministry instead of the Government Media Office (GMO).

Source: ReliefWeb

The coordinated "genocide" propaganda campaign started on 7th Oct too,
before IDF even entered Gaza. The whole theme is emotional extortion.

October 7th is an arbitrary date to pick as the "start" of all this, take March 1st 2023, approx seven months prior:

Israel should ‘wipe out’ Palestinian town of Huwara, says senior minister Smotrich​

Far-right minister Bezalel Smotrich, one of the most senior members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government, said Wednesday that Israel should “wipe out” the Palestinian town of Huwara in the West Bank.

That's why people regularly accuse Israel of genocide, extermination is a dream some had had for many years.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So you suggest not only flying planes into Tel-Aviv scrapers,

Reread the post, you'll discover it was a question not a suggestion, perhaps you feel able to answer it?

but also attacking an international airport?

Not attacked no, they should be taken out of service, much as Yasser Arafat International Airport was.

Go on "invest" in the Gaza airport,
lead by example, sure Arab states
will join such lucrative enterprise.

Oh I'm sure Jared Kushner is waiting on the sidelines for Trump to get back in power so he can pursue his dream of "cleaning up the strip" (expelling the population) to the middle of the Negev desert and building another Trump Hotel on shores of Gaza.

Jared Kushner under fire for calling Gaza waterfront property ‘valuable’​

Have you also not noticed the strong resemblance Jared Kushner has to Reinhard Heydrich? I wonder sometimes if they might be related, take a close look at the emotionless eyes, that inhuman gaze.

Heydrich and Kushner have much in common, devotion to an evil ideology, perception of civilians as expendable and advocates of annexation and ethnic cleansing.

Zionist Israel is a cancer and the regime and its grotesque ideology must be wiped off the map in the same way and for the same reasons the Third Reich was wiped off the map.

 

[rylah]

You didn't answer my question - which source do you think is most reliable?

Also the UN never "corrected" anything, they clarified the data, if they were lying, deceiving they'd not have done that would they?

Adjusting and clarifying data is not wrong it is right, accuracy and clarity is important.


Source: ReliefWeb



October 7th is an arbitrary date to pick as the "start" of all this, take March 1st 2023, approx seven months prior:

Israel should ‘wipe out’ Palestinian town of Huwara, says senior minister Smotrich​

Boy you want word games instead of discussing the straightforward facts.
What did the UN do after they "clarified the data"? They slashed the
al-Jazeera numbers by half. And the UN is not known for much of
"pro-Israel bias" - to me, that estimate actually seems rational.

The coordinated "genocide" propaganda starting 7th Oct,
and your attempts to bait it to unrelated events,
proves it has nothing to do with the war itself,
and already admitting the intended lie.

Now I could understand it, even as an enemy,
if the exaggeration served to minimize casualties.
However it is not so , if their "martyrdom" your agenda.

​

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Boy you want word games instead of discussing the straightforward facts.
What did the UN do after they "clarified the data"? They slashed the
al-Jazeera numbers by half. And the UN is not known for much of
"pro-Israel bias" - to me, that estimate actually seems rational.

That's simply not true, anyone can check what I've said and read what the UN actually did with the reporting of the data, I encourage any visitor to this thread to go an explore this with an open mind and if they still think I'm in error I'm happy to respond to them.

The coordinated "genocide" propaganda starting 7th Oct,
and your attempts to bait it to unrelated events,
proves it has nothing to do with the war itself,
and already admitting the intended lie.

How can the threat of wiping out an entire Palestinian community a year ago be said to be "unrelated" to actually wiping out an entire Palestinian community today?

 

[rylah]

Reread the post, you'll discover it was a question not a suggestion, perhaps you feel able to answer it?

Not attacked no, they should be taken out of service, much as Yasser Arafat International Airport was.

Oh I'm sure Jared Kushner is waiting on the sidelines for Trump to get back in power so he can pursue his dream of "cleaning up the strip" (expelling the population) to the middle of the Negev desert and building another Trump Hotel on shores of Gaza.

Jared Kushner under fire for calling Gaza waterfront property ‘valuable’​

Have you also not noticed the strong resemblance Jared Kushner has to Reinhard Heydrich? I wonder sometimes if they might be related, take a close look at the emotionless eyes, that inhuman gaze.

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Heydrich and Kushner have much in common, devotion to an evil ideology, perception of civilians as expendable and advocates of annexation and ethnic cleansing.

Zionist Israel is a cancer and the regime and its grotesque ideology must be wiped off the map in the same way and for the same reasons the Third Reich was wiped off the map.

He suggested the Negev desert? Not what I've heard.

Indeed, there're already names for new towns,
and families willingly prepared to move in
to rebuild their communities.

Arabs who can live with the sight of a big Menorah on the synagogue
with little Hannah'le and Moisheh playing around - will stay.
Others will be encouraged to emigrate.

However that's for another thread.

With or without Trump.

Israeli lawmakers launch Gaza resettlement caucus

"Only when Jewish children are playing in the Strip will the Nukhba terrorists realize that they have lost," said MK Zvi Sukkot.

www.jns.org

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Well listen to him yourself:



Here, go to 00:12 into the video:

But how come you didn't know this? let me know if you need any further help with any other aspects of this discussion.

 

[rylah]

View attachment 973335
Well listen to him yourself:



Here, go to 00:12 into the video:

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But how come you didn't know this? let me know if you need any further help with any other aspects of this discussion.

That's what I'm saying about hearing differently.

I like Jared's game, he suggests something obviously irrelevant,
a detail no one would agree, about a more broadly accepted idea.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

That's what I'm saying about hearing differently.

Or hearing selectively, perhaps your deaf.