Zone1 Priesthood Authority

[onefour1]

In the Bible we read of the priesthood through Aaron and the Melchizedek priesthood. Jesus seems to have found priesthood authority essential else why would he call twelve apostles? We also read of other offices of the priesthood in scripture such as elders, priests, deacons, and seventy. According to the apostle Paul, there was to be priesthood authorities on earth in all ages until we come to a unity of the faith and unto the perfect man in Christ. Here is what he has said:

Ephesians 4:11-15
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

What is the justification for not having apostles and prophets? Jesus clearly called twelve apostles to continue after his ministry and Paul has taught they should continue for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry and for edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ. So why do some teach that apostles and prophets are no longer needed? Shouldn't we still see apostles and prophets in the true Church of Jesus Christ today?

 

[Mack The Finger]

I think what you think !

 

[lg325]

The Priesthood of the believer is Baptist belief.

 

[onefour1]

The Priesthood of the believer is Baptist belief.

If all priesthood authority is given to all members of the church, then why was it necessary for Jesus to call apostle and why did Paul teach that many offices of priesthood would continue until we all come to a unity of the faith unto a perfect man in Christ. Obviously Christ and Paul saw a necessity for an ordained priesthood to continue in all ages of the church.

 

[Quantrill]

If all priesthood authority is given to all members of the church, then why was it necessary for Jesus to call apostle and why did Paul teach that many offices of priesthood would continue until we all come to a unity of the faith unto a perfect man in Christ. Obviously Christ and Paul saw a necessity for an ordained priesthood to continue in all ages of the church.

Yes, everyone who is a believer in Jesus Christ, born again by the Holy Ghost and who have the Spirit of God in them, is a priest of God. And all of these make up the one and true universal Church of Jesus Christ. And we all make up the priesthood of God today.
This priesthood is not a continuance of the Aaronic priesthood. It is a priesthood based upon the order of Melchisedec. Jesus is our High Priest based upon the order of Melchisedec. (Ps. 110:4) (Heb. 7:16-17)

The verses in (Ephesians) you speak of identify various ministries given to each member of the Body of Christ, each believer priest. Others are found (1 Cor. 12-14) and (Rom. 12:3-16) Thus each believer priest has a specific ministry that he exercises in the Body of Christ, through the miraculous power of the Holy Spirit in him.

The main goal of this priesthood is the growing, and maturing of this Body of Christ, the Church. Its members consist of all born-again believers no matter which earthly local denomination they are in. It is a mystical Body empowered by the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Jesus Christ. (Rom. 8:9)

This priesthood exists as long as the Church is on the earth. But there will come a day when it will be complete in its numbers and will have matured to the degree God wants. At which time it will be raptured out of the earth. And this time will coincide with God beginning again to finish His work with Israel on the earth. And I believe this time will coincide with the beginning of the Tribulation period, the last 7 years of (Daniels) 490 years prophecy.

Quantrill

 

[Cougarbear]

Yes, everyone who is a believer in Jesus Christ, born again by the Holy Ghost and who have the Spirit of God in them, is a priest of God. And all of these make up the one and true universal Church of Jesus Christ. And we all make up the priesthood of God today.
This priesthood is not a continuance of the Aaronic priesthood. It is a priesthood based upon the order of Melchisedec. Jesus is our High Priest based upon the order of Melchisedec. (Ps. 110:4) (Heb. 7:16-17)

The verses in (Ephesians) you speak of identify various ministries given to each member of the Body of Christ, each believer priest. Others are found (1 Cor. 12-14) and (Rom. 12:3-16) Thus each believer priest has a specific ministry that he exercises in the Body of Christ, through the miraculous power of the Holy Spirit in him.

The main goal of this priesthood is the growing, and maturing of this Body of Christ, the Church. Its members consist of all born-again believers no matter which earthly local denomination they are in. It is a mystical Body empowered by the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Jesus Christ. (Rom. 8:9)

This priesthood exists as long as the Church is on the earth. But there will come a day when it will be complete in its numbers and will have matured to the degree God wants. At which time it will be raptured out of the earth. And this time will coincide with God beginning again to finish His work with Israel on the earth. And I believe this time will coincide with the beginning of the Tribulation period, the last 7 years of (Daniels) 490 years prophecy.

Quantrill

Unfortunately, there isn’t biblical justification for your opinion. And you drifted away with a few strawman arguments. This is confirmed each time disagreement between your so-called Christianity. Prophets and Apostles are conduits to Christ and would settle any question and /disagreements. Instead, your “church” continues to divide itself into thousands more branches. More apostasy.

 

[onefour1]

Yes, everyone who is a believer in Jesus Christ, born again by the Holy Ghost and who have the Spirit of God in them, is a priest of God. And all of these make up the one and true universal Church of Jesus Christ. And we all make up the priesthood of God today.

So many churches with their contrary doctrines of Christ are all a universal Church of Jesus Christ? I think not. God is not the author of confusion. One such contrary doctrine is infant baptism:

Infant baptism is practiced by the majority of Christian denominations worldwide, though exact numbers vary by source.

• Global Christian Population: Approximately 2.03 billion Christians (over 90% of the world’s Christians) practice infant baptism, according to a 2008 analysis from The Gospel Coalition based on adherents.com data.
• Major Denominations: This includes:
  
  
  • Roman Catholic Church (~1.5 billion)
  • Eastern Orthodox Churches (~240 million)
  • Reformed/Presbyterian/Calvinist traditions (~75 million)
  • Anglican/Episcopal Church (~73 million)
  • Lutheran Churches (~64 million)
  • Methodist Churches (~70 million)
  • United Church of Christ (UCC) and other mainline Protestant groups.
• Protestant Perspective: Among Protestants, about 61% practice infant baptism, with the remaining 39% favoring believer’s baptism (e.g., Baptists, Pentecostals, Anabaptists). Even when including non-Trinitarian groups like Jehovah’s Witnesses and Latter-day Saints, infant baptism still represents over 57% of global Protestants.
• Denominations That Do Not Practice Infant Baptism:
  
  
  • Baptists (~70 million)
  • Pentecostals (~105 million)
  • Mennonites, Amish, Brethren (~2.7 million combined)
  • Seventh-day Adventists (~12 million)
  • Jehovah’s Witnesses (~14.8 million)
  • Latter-day Saints (Mormons) (~12.5 million)

Thus, while numerous Christian sects oppose infant baptism, the vast majority of Christian denominations—especially globally—believe in and practice it.

This priesthood is not a continuance of the Aaronic priesthood. It is a priesthood based upon the order of Melchisedec. Jesus is our High Priest based upon the order of Melchisedec. (Ps. 110:4) (Heb. 7:16-17)

The priesthood calling of an apostle is under the Melchizedek priesthood. Why don't all of these churches you claim to be a true universal church of Jesus Christ have apostles leading their church. Surely the Lord called apostles during his ministry on earth and Paul taught that they should continue in the church until we all come to a unity of the faith. Yet many of these churches do not have apostles or prophets. Why not if it's taught in the Bible?

The verses in (Ephesians) you speak of identify various ministries given to each member of the Body of Christ, each believer priest. Others are found (1 Cor. 12-14) and (Rom. 12:3-16) Thus each believer priest has a specific ministry that he exercises in the Body of Christ, through the miraculous power of the Holy Spirit in him.

The verse in Ephesians tells us that there should be apostles in all ages of the church until we all come to a unity of the faith and until we all become perfected in Christ. Churches all have had these verses for a few thousand years and yet few have apostles and prophets. Many of these churches vary in their doctrine and belief in Christ. Sooo confusing! Apostles were given to edify the church and leads in the correct paths of the Lord. It was through the laying on of hands that the gift of the Holy Spirit was given unto the body of Christ yet in many of these so called Christian churches of today we find not apostles.

The main goal of this priesthood is the growing, and maturing of this Body of Christ, the Church. Its members consist of all born-again believers no matter which earthly local denomination they are in. It is a mystical Body empowered by the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Jesus Christ. (Rom. 8:9)

Even when they hold contrary doctrines of belief and often times stand against each other? I do agree that the priesthood was given for the edifying of the saints and to bring them closer to our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ, but when they teach contrary doctrines and don't agree with one another then they are not one in Jesus Christ. They really need apostles to set them straight in the paths of righteousness and truth.

This priesthood exists as long as the Church is on the earth. But there will come a day when it will be complete in its numbers and will have matured to the degree God wants. At which time it will be raptured out of the earth. And this time will coincide with God beginning again to finish His work with Israel on the earth. And I believe this time will coincide with the beginning of the Tribulation period, the last 7 years of (Daniels) 490 years prophecy.

Quantrill

I think with all the confusion and lack of unity in what the true doctrines of Jesus really are, I can't believe that they are all part of the true church of Jesus Christ. I believe there should be apostles on the earth today and there should have been as long as the church did not fall away into apostasy. I believe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the one and only true church of Jesus Christ upon all the face of the earth who are led today by apostles, prophets, teacher, elders, priests, deacons, etc.

 

[Quantrill]

Unfortunately, there isn’t biblical justification for your opinion. And you drifted away with a few strawman arguments. This is confirmed each time disagreement between your so-called Christianity. Prophets and Apostles are conduits to Christ and would settle any question and /disagreements. Instead, your “church” continues to divide itself into thousands more branches. More apostasy.

Strange response since I gave plenty of Scripture to support what I said and you give nothing in your reply. Typical.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

So many churches with their contrary doctrines of Christ are all a universal Church of Jesus Christ? I think not. God is not the author of confusion. One such contrary doctrine is infant baptism:

Infant baptism is practiced by the majority of Christian denominations worldwide, though exact numbers vary by source.

• Global Christian Population: Approximately 2.03 billion Christians (over 90% of the world’s Christians) practice infant baptism, according to a 2008 analysis from The Gospel Coalition based on adherents.com data.
  • Roman Catholic Church (~1.5 billion)
  • Eastern Orthodox Churches (~240 million)
  • Reformed/Presbyterian/Calvinist traditions (~75 million)
  • Anglican/Episcopal Church (~73 million)
  • Lutheran Churches (~64 million)
  • Methodist Churches (~70 million)
  • United Church of Christ (UCC) and other mainline Protestant groups.
• Protestant Perspective: Among Protestants, about 61% practice infant baptism, with the remaining 39% favoring believer’s baptism (e.g., Baptists, Pentecostals, Anabaptists). Even when including non-Trinitarian groups like Jehovah’s Witnesses and Latter-day Saints, infant baptism still represents over 57% of global Protestants.
  • Baptists (~70 million)
  • Pentecostals (~105 million)
  • Mennonites, Amish, Brethren (~2.7 million combined)
  • Seventh-day Adventists (~12 million)
  • Jehovah’s Witnesses (~14.8 million)
  • Latter-day Saints (Mormons) (~12.5 million)

Thus, while numerous Christian sects oppose infant baptism, the vast majority of Christian denominations—especially globally—believe in and practice it.

The priesthood calling of an apostle is under the Melchizedek priesthood. Why don't all of these churches you claim to be a true universal church of Jesus Christ have apostles leading their church. Surely the Lord called apostles during his ministry on earth and Paul taught that they should continue in the church until we all come to a unity of the faith. Yet many of these churches do not have apostles or prophets. Why not if it's taught in the Bible?

The verse in Ephesians tells us that there should be apostles in all ages of the church until we all come to a unity of the faith and until we all become perfected in Christ. Churches all have had these verses for a few thousand years and yet few have apostles and prophets. Many of these churches vary in their doctrine and belief in Christ. Sooo confusing! Apostles were given to edify the church and leads in the correct paths of the Lord. It was through the laying on of hands that the gift of the Holy Spirit was given unto the body of Christ yet in many of these so called Christian churches of today we find not apostles.

Even when they hold contrary doctrines of belief and often times stand against each other? I do agree that the priesthood was given for the edifying of the saints and to bring them closer to our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ, but when they teach contrary doctrines and don't agree with one another then they are not one in Jesus Christ. They really need apostles to set them straight in the paths of righteousness and truth.

I think with all the confusion and lack of unity in what the true doctrines of Jesus really are, I can't believe that they are all part of the true church of Jesus Christ. I believe there should be apostles on the earth today and there should have been as long as the church did not fall away into apostasy. I believe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the one and only true church of Jesus Christ upon all the face of the earth who are led today by apostles, prophets, teacher, elders, priests, deacons, etc.

Apparently, you have zero comprehension ability to understand what you read.

The universal Church exists through every born-again believer alive on the earth. No matter what denomination they may attend.

In other words, If there are 100 people in a Baptist church. And only 10 are born-again, those 10 are members of the universal Church of Jesus Christ.

If there are 100 people in a Catholic Church and only 10 are born again, those 10 are members of the universal Church of Jesus Christ.

If there are 100 people in a Presbyterian Church and only 10 are born-again, those 10 are members of the universal Church of Jesus Christ.

That means with these 3 churches 30 people make up the universal, true Church of Jesus Christ.

Quantrill

 

[Cougarbear]

Strange response since I gave plenty of Scripture to support what I said and you give nothing in your reply. Typical.

Quantrill

All you did was throw out scriptures that clearly have nothing to do with the trinity and/or proof. Plus, those scriptures have nothing to do with the fact 1John5:7 was added 3 centuries after John wrote Revelation that no additions can be added. Your Christians state that means no additional scripture period. It’s your way of trying to prove the Book of Mormon untrue for that specific reason. You can’t have it both ways. So, according to you if the trinity is true then the Book of Mormon is true and Prophets existed after Jesus resurrection. You are trapped on this one. Checkmate!

 

[Quantrill]

All you did was throw out scriptures that clearly have nothing to do with the trinity and/or proof. Plus, those scriptures have nothing to do with the fact 1John5:7 was added 3 centuries after John wrote Revelation that no additions can be added. Your Christians state that means no additional scripture period. It’s your way of trying to prove the Book of Mormon untrue for that specific reason. You can’t have it both ways. So, according to you if the trinity is true then the Book of Mormon is true and Prophets existed after Jesus resurrection. You are trapped on this one. Checkmate!

That's because I wasn't addressing the Trinity. Nor was I trying to refute the Book of Mormon. I was addressing the existence and purpose of apostle's and prophets in the Church today.

Your playing chess with yourself. Not me.

Quantrill

 

[DennisPTate]

In the Bible we read of the priesthood through Aaron and the Melchizedek priesthood. Jesus seems to have found priesthood authority essential else why would he call twelve apostles? We also read of other offices of the priesthood in scripture such as elders, priests, deacons, and seventy. According to the apostle Paul, there was to be priesthood authorities on earth in all ages until we come to a unity of the faith and unto the perfect man in Christ. Here is what he has said:

Ephesians 4:11-15
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

What is the justification for not having apostles and prophets? Jesus clearly called twelve apostles to continue after his ministry and Paul has taught they should continue for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry and for edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ. So why do some teach that apostles and prophets are no longer needed? Shouldn't we still see apostles and prophets in the true Church of Jesus Christ today?

Wow!

This is an extremely interesting argument I must admit.

I also have to admit that I personally am a truly flawed human being and I find this entire topic somewhat troubling. I became an Atheist around the time that I was about eight to ten years of age. I heard Dr. Billy Graham preach a hellfire and brimstone sermon on TV around 1966 and i got deeply offended by the idea of hell.

By 1972 or 1973 I heard Evangelist Garner Ted Armstrong on TV. He convinced me of the Soul Sleep doctrine and thus he got past my deepest offence with my Creator and I began to study the Jewish and Christian Bible.

From 1972 to around 1990 I regarded Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong as something like my "Pope." I even wondered if he could perhaps be one of the "Two Witnesses" of The Book of Revelation? When he passed on in January of 1986 I had no choice but to do some serious thinking about that possibility.

I read an article in Psychology Today in 1990 that got me researching the writings of Dr. Raymond Moody on near death experiences. I concluded that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong had been terribly incorrect on his teachings on the State of the Dead and therefore he could not possibly be "The Final Elijah" or one of the Two Witnesses of the Book of Revelation.

As I began to church hop from denomination to denomination in search of somebody who could actually perhaps be one of the Two Witnesses I did eventually conclude that the Latter day Saints church as well as the Roman Catholic Church seem to have some of the best and most accurate teachings on the dead of any large Christian church, [that I can find anyway]?

So since 2018 I have been mentored by fourteen or more Latter day Saint Elders, [and even by two Sisters during Covid through the internet]. I do believe that the Latter day Saint Community is all set up to play a massive role in what Pastor David Wilkerson predicted was being raised up. "The Super Church."

I believe that one of the positive things that can be said about The Super Church is that it will have very good teachings on The State of the Dead, much as the Latter day Saints certainly do, and also the Roman Catholic Church has extremely good teachings on the State of the Dead.

OneFour1... I would like to give you a suggestion on how your Latter day Saints can use the prediction of the Super Church to lead a huge number of people to Messiah Yeshua Jesus? The idea is simple.... your thirteen Apostles of the Latter day Saint sixteen million or so strong community go into a different mode of teaching. Have some of your Elders and Sisters getting into the Book of Mormon for the potential new members that want it but have other pairs of Elders or Saints, [or perhaps one of each pair who specializes in how near death experience accounts do fit with The Jewish and Christian scriptures]? I know that I know that I know that Latter day Saint Elders and Sisters can do a brilliant job of tackling this topic and.....
.... when you are talking with Baptists and Lutherans you can advise them on how they can perhaps prevent a massive falling away of Baptists and Lutherans and Seventh Day Adventists as the truth about the State of the Dead becomes more and more clear, [which will certainly prove that Latter day Saints and Roman Catholics do have impressive and highly accurate teachings on The State of the Dead].

OneFour1..... what I am writing here as well as in this other discussion is highly relevant to your Thirteen or So Leading Prophets and President of the Latter day Saint community.

Zone1 Thread 'Is the Baptist and Reform Theology approach to NDE accounts going to cause...'

Friday at 10:26 PM

.... a massive "falling away" of Baptists and Reform Theology Protestants, over to Roman Catholicism and to Mormonism due to the fact that Roman Catholics and Latter day Saints do take NDE accounts seriously?!


Satan set things up brilliantly nearly two decades ago with a very flawed dad, whose son had a near death experience and the son told his dad. His dad wrote a book and serious money started coming in to the dad whose name was on the copywright.

My own personal belief is that several sincere and well meaning Theologians fell into Satan's trap....
just like the Apostle Paul fell...

• DennisPTate
• Replies: 2
• Forum: Religion and Ethics

 

[SweetSue92]

So many churches with their contrary doctrines of Christ are all a universal Church of Jesus Christ? I think not. God is not the author of confusion. One such contrary doctrine is infant baptism:

Infant baptism is practiced by the majority of Christian denominations worldwide, though exact numbers vary by source.

• Global Christian Population: Approximately 2.03 billion Christians (over 90% of the world’s Christians) practice infant baptism, according to a 2008 analysis from The Gospel Coalition based on adherents.com data.
  • Roman Catholic Church (~1.5 billion)
  • Eastern Orthodox Churches (~240 million)
  • Reformed/Presbyterian/Calvinist traditions (~75 million)
  • Anglican/Episcopal Church (~73 million)
  • Lutheran Churches (~64 million)
  • Methodist Churches (~70 million)
  • United Church of Christ (UCC) and other mainline Protestant groups.
• Protestant Perspective: Among Protestants, about 61% practice infant baptism, with the remaining 39% favoring believer’s baptism (e.g., Baptists, Pentecostals, Anabaptists). Even when including non-Trinitarian groups like Jehovah’s Witnesses and Latter-day Saints, infant baptism still represents over 57% of global Protestants.
  • Baptists (~70 million)
  • Pentecostals (~105 million)
  • Mennonites, Amish, Brethren (~2.7 million combined)
  • Seventh-day Adventists (~12 million)
  • Jehovah’s Witnesses (~14.8 million)
  • Latter-day Saints (Mormons) (~12.5 million)

Thus, while numerous Christian sects oppose infant baptism, the vast majority of Christian denominations—especially globally—believe in and practice it.

The priesthood calling of an apostle is under the Melchizedek priesthood. Why don't all of these churches you claim to be a true universal church of Jesus Christ have apostles leading their church. Surely the Lord called apostles during his ministry on earth and Paul taught that they should continue in the church until we all come to a unity of the faith. Yet many of these churches do not have apostles or prophets. Why not if it's taught in the Bible?

The verse in Ephesians tells us that there should be apostles in all ages of the church until we all come to a unity of the faith and until we all become perfected in Christ. Churches all have had these verses for a few thousand years and yet few have apostles and prophets. Many of these churches vary in their doctrine and belief in Christ. Sooo confusing! Apostles were given to edify the church and leads in the correct paths of the Lord. It was through the laying on of hands that the gift of the Holy Spirit was given unto the body of Christ yet in many of these so called Christian churches of today we find not apostles.

Even when they hold contrary doctrines of belief and often times stand against each other? I do agree that the priesthood was given for the edifying of the saints and to bring them closer to our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ, but when they teach contrary doctrines and don't agree with one another then they are not one in Jesus Christ. They really need apostles to set them straight in the paths of righteousness and truth.

I think with all the confusion and lack of unity in what the true doctrines of Jesus really are, I can't believe that they are all part of the true church of Jesus Christ. I believe there should be apostles on the earth today and there should have been as long as the church did not fall away into apostasy. I believe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the one and only true church of Jesus Christ upon all the face of the earth who are led today by apostles, prophets, teacher, elders, priests, deacons, etc.

This from the same denomination that has soda bars all over Utah because cold caffeine is acceptable but hot caffeine is a definite no-no.

I mean

 

[Cougarbear]

That's because I wasn't addressing the Trinity. Nor was I trying to refute the Book of Mormon. I was addressing the existence and purpose of apostle's and prophets in the Church today.

Your playing chess with yourself. Not me.

Quantrill

There's really only one Church to day with Christ's apostles and prophets, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

[Quantrill]

There's really only one Church to day with Christ's apostles and prophets, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Believe whatever you like. Like I said, I was not addressing that. Go play chess with someone else.

Quantrill

 

[ding]

There's really only one Church to day with Christ's apostles and prophets, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

[onefour1]

This from the same denomination that has soda bars all over Utah because cold caffeine is acceptable but hot caffeine is a definite no-no.

I mean

You can crap on our belief in the revelation known as the Word of Wisdom all you want but the evidence seems to show that it really works:

Mormons (LDS members) generally have higher life expectancy compared to members of other major religions and the general U.S. population, particularly when considering active practitioners.

• Active Mormons in California and Utah consistently show life expectancy 5 to 10 years longer than non-Mormons in the U.S. For example, a 25-year UCLA study found that active Mormon men had a life expectancy of 84.1 years (9.8 years longer than U.S. white males), and active Mormon women lived to 86.1 years (5.6 years longer than U.S. white females).
• This longevity is strongly linked to lifestyle factors such as abstinence from tobacco, alcohol, and coffee (the "Word of Wisdom"), regular church attendance, strong family ties, education, and healthy diets.
• Active LDS members have significantly lower death rates from cancer and heart disease—about half that of the general population.
• The benefits are not exclusive to Mormons; Seventh-day Adventists, who share similar health practices, also show increased longevity, with life expectancy elevated by 2–4 years compared to the general population.
• Even among non-smokers, active Mormons in Utah live longer than non-Mormons who also don’t smoke, suggesting that religious affiliation and associated social and behavioral factors contribute beyond just avoiding tobacco.
• In contrast, inactive Mormons and non-religious individuals show much smaller or no longevity advantages, highlighting that active adherence to the lifestyle is key.

In summary, Mormons who actively follow their religious lifestyle live significantly longer than non-Mormons and other religious groups, primarily due to a combination of health behaviors and strong social support systems.
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[Cougarbear]

Very cute but did not understand that John and the Three Nephites would not carry on the Church of Jesus Christ in those early days to 1830. There mission was to keep hope alive amongst men so that the world would not fall into the state of Noah where the world could not be saved and another flood would be needed. The Priesthood would not be given from John to anyone. So, the concept again is that the Apostles hold the Authority of the Priesthood to run the Church of Jesus Christ. That was lost when John was translated. In fact, it was mostly lost before then as Apostles were killed and not replaced. The Churches that followed like the Catholic Church and the rest never once held the Priesthood of John. Instead, they held the priesthood of Satan.

 

[SweetSue92]

You can crap on our belief in the revelation known as the Word of Wisdom all you want but the evidence seems to show that it really works:

Mormons (LDS members) generally have higher life expectancy compared to members of other major religions and the general U.S. population, particularly when considering active practitioners.

• Active Mormons in California and Utah consistently show life expectancy 5 to 10 years longer than non-Mormons in the U.S. For example, a 25-year UCLA study found that active Mormon men had a life expectancy of 84.1 years (9.8 years longer than U.S. white males), and active Mormon women lived to 86.1 years (5.6 years longer than U.S. white females).
• This longevity is strongly linked to lifestyle factors such as abstinence from tobacco, alcohol, and coffee (the "Word of Wisdom"), regular church attendance, strong family ties, education, and healthy diets.
• Active LDS members have significantly lower death rates from cancer and heart disease—about half that of the general population.
• The benefits are not exclusive to Mormons; Seventh-day Adventists, who share similar health practices, also show increased longevity, with life expectancy elevated by 2–4 years compared to the general population.
• Even among non-smokers, active Mormons in Utah live longer than non-Mormons who also don’t smoke, suggesting that religious affiliation and associated social and behavioral factors contribute beyond just avoiding tobacco.
• In contrast, inactive Mormons and non-religious individuals show much smaller or no longevity advantages, highlighting that active adherence to the lifestyle is key.

In summary, Mormons who actively follow their religious lifestyle live significantly longer than non-Mormons and other religious groups, primarily due to a combination of health behaviors and strong social support systems.
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Coffee is SIGNIFICANTLY healthier than soda. You know this, right?

Nothing proves that Mormonism is a fake made up religion more than this particular delusion of Joseph Smith: coffee is terrible for you. C'mon.

 

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Very cute but did not understand that John and the Three Nephites would not carry on the Church of Jesus Christ in those early days to 1830. There mission was to keep hope alive amongst men so that the world would not fall into the state of Noah where the world could not be saved and another flood would be needed. The Priesthood would not be given from John to anyone. So, the concept again is that the Apostles hold the Authority of the Priesthood to run the Church of Jesus Christ. That was lost when John was translated. In fact, it was mostly lost before then as Apostles were killed and not replaced. The Churches that followed like the Catholic Church and the rest never once held the Priesthood of John. Instead, they held the priesthood of Satan.

The disciple Jesus loved most isn't on your freshly rebooted apostolic roster.