President Trump's Order to Cut Off Funding For Sanctuary Cities Could Threaten LA Fire Relief

[Edgetho]

No, the idea is to get the cities to change their priorities.

You don't screw over the citizens just because the mayor and governor are dumbasses.

You get the mayor and the governor to play ball. It's THEIR job to explain it to the voters.

Face it, the problem is in the population centers. Rural Wyoming doesn't have these problems. The problem is the population centers are living on the federal tit, and the mayors are promising the voters a feel-good existence cause they don't have to pay for it

The only way to reverse this situation is to force the local politicians to make the difficult decisions. Which is their job in the first place.

The citizens? You mean the scumbags that voted the other scumbags into Office? **** them, doubly. There could be no Karen Bass, no Gavin Newscum, no Sponge Brains Shits Pants, no Kumswalla, no Nazi Pelousy, no -- Any of it without scumbags to vote for them.

**** them. In the ass; with an Ugly Stick. Twice

As to the other? You're dreaming. dimocraps are scum and they will never change. Any more than a Dung Beetle can be anything but. A Vulture can never be a Butterfly.

dimocraps are scum. Even Vultures serve a purpose. An important one. dimocrap scum are without any redeeming value.

Let it Burn down.

To the ground.

THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES AND NOW THEY WANT US TO HELP!! Not a chance, if I'm running the show

 

[luiza]

Okay then stop breaking the law and housing and feeding these criminals. How about that then? It's not rocket science as even someone such as myself who received special education figured it out.

Nice to meet someone who received Special Education . Shows that people thought you were and are a special person .

Keep being special but not like the LA Fire Groups who acted in a specially corrupt way .

P.S. Are you the happy lady featured on that video ----- Mrs Special I imagine ?

 

[toobfreak]

Trump cannot legally cut off funding to California because the House controls the budget.

You're so cute. When has the law ever stopped democrats from doing anything?

 

[Seymour Flops]

They would spend at most a third of what they were sent on actual fire relief. The rest would go for woke programs such as drag queen story hour and DEI programs now labeled something else

After being split those three ways, of course, lots would be skimmed as graft.

I don’t see further burdening our grandchildren with debt to cater to that.

 

[kyzr]

Trump should make one of the strings for CA aid that they turnover a million or so illegals to ICE for deportation.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

President Trump's Order to Cut Off Funding For Sanctuary Cities Could Threaten LA Fire Relief​

They have the ability to adjust their priorities.

Democrats put illegal immigrants above Americans.

They rather Americans suffer then illegals be deported.

Democrats are losing their slaves and are freaking out.

Democrats = pro slavery

 

[ChristisKing]

Nice to meet someone who received Special Education . Shows that people thought you were and are a special person .

Keep being special but not like the LA Fire Groups who acted in a specially corrupt way .

P.S. Are you the happy lady featured on that video ----- Mrs Special I imagine ?

Lol not what I meant.

 

[Edgetho]

Lol not what I meant.

Yeah, take it easy on her. I imagine it's not easy when your man leaves you.

For another man

 

[ChristisKing]

Yep, looks like these idiots are WAY too stupid. They can't even help themselves.

 

[protectionist]

Cutting off funding to sanctuary cities is akin to defunding police, fire, and other services. It hurts the general population while the scoundrel mayors & councilmembers are mostly uneffected, & sit back laughing.

The better solution is to arrest these bums, JAIL them & send a message to whoever replaces them, and keep police & fire depts strong.

 

[Leviticus]

Cutting off funding to sanctuary cities is akin to defunding police, fire, and other services. It hurts the general population while the scoundrel mayors & councilmembers are mostly uneffected, & sit back laughing.

The better solution is to arrest these bums, JAIL them & send a message to whoever replaces them, and keep police & fire depts strong.

The issue with that is that they aren't actually breaking any law. Under the constitution states are not legally required to enforce federal law. That duty belongs only to the federal government.

For example, following the passage of the fugitive slave act, is most northern states issued orders to their state and local officials that they were prohibited from enforcing the law, barring them from detaining runaway slaves solely on the fact that they were runaway slaves. The Supreme court ruled this constitutional, because the federal government alone had the legal obligation to enforce its laws. And state governments had no obligation to make any effort to do so, so long as they took no action that would prevent the federal government from doing so.
This is the basis of sanctuary cities today. Just like states could legally prohibited state and local authorities from detaining runaway slaves under the fugitive slave act, they can also prohibited them from detaining illegals based solely on the fact that they are illegal. Since states have no legal authority in immigration under the constitution, they have no legal obligation to make any effort to enforce federal immigration laws. So long as they do not interfere with federal agents doing so.
And states not actively detaining illegal immigrants does not prevent ICE and other federal agencies from doing so. ICE goes in and arrests illegals in sanctuary cities all the time. So the fact that local suthories do no actively hunt down and detain illegals specifically so that they can be handed over to ICE and other federal agencies does not prevent those agencies from operating in those cities.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The issue with that is that they aren't actually breaking any law. Under the constitution states are not legally required to enforce federal law. That duty belongs only to the federal government.

For example, following the passage of the fugitive slave act, is most northern states issued orders to their state and local officials that they were prohibited from enforcing the law, barring them from detaining runaway slaves solely on the fact that they were runaway slaves. The Supreme court ruled this constitutional, because the federal government alone had the legal obligation to enforce its laws. And state governments had no obligation to make any effort to do so, so long as they took no action that would prevent the federal government from doing so.
This is the basis of sanctuary cities today. Just like states could legally prohibited state and local authorities from detaining runaway slaves under the fugitive slave act, they can also prohibited them from detaining illegals based solely on the fact that they are illegal. Since states have no legal authority in immigration under the constitution, they have no legal obligation to make any effort to enforce federal immigration laws. So long as they do not interfere with federal agents doing so.
And states not actively detaining illegal immigrants does not prevent ICE and other federal agencies from doing so.

well except they ARE taking action to prevent the Feds from doing their job and blatantly doing so.

 

[protectionist]

The issue with that is that they aren't actually breaking any law. Under the constitution states are not legally required to enforce federal law. That duty belongs only to the federal government.

For example, following the passage of the fugitive slave act, is most northern states issued orders to their state and local officials that they were prohibited from enforcing the law, barring them from detaining runaway slaves solely on the fact that they were runaway slaves. The Supreme court ruled this constitutional, because the federal government alone had the legal obligation to enforce its laws. And state governments had no obligation to make any effort to do so, so long as they took no action that would prevent the federal government from doing so.
This is the basis of sanctuary cities today. Just like states could legally prohibited state and local authorities from detaining runaway slaves under the fugitive slave act, they can also prohibited them from detaining illegals based solely on the fact that they are illegal. Since states have no legal authority in immigration under the constitution, they have no legal obligation to make any effort to enforce federal immigration laws. So long as they do not interfere with federal agents doing so.
And states not actively detaining illegal immigrants does not prevent ICE and other federal agencies from doing so. ICE goes in and arrests illegals in sanctuary cities all the time. So the fact that local suthories do no actively hunt down and detain illegals specifically so that they can be handed over to ICE and other federal agencies does not prevent those agencies from operating in those cities.

FALSE! They are in violation of at least 4 US laws, most notably US Code 8, Section 1324.

It is not a matter of enforcing federal law. The crux of it is sanctuary criminals taking action to impede and interfere with ICE from doing their job.

Furthermore, the perpetrators cannot escape blame, because they have laid out the solid proof of their actions by codifying it into law.

In many cases, these wild & reckless actions have resulted in people DYING. These cannot go by without strict accountability.

 

[Seymour Flops]

. So the fact that local suthories do no actively hunt down and detain illegals specifically so that they can be handed over to ICE and other federal agencies does not prevent those agencies from operating in those cities.

No one is asking him to hunt anyone down. But when they arrest a murderer, armed robber, rapist, child molester, thief, or barroom brawler and it turns out They have an ice detainer, why in the world would they not notify ICE so that ice agents can come get them in jail where it will be a safe arrest?

Why put the federal authorities in a position to have to send teams of agents into communities instead of a pair of agents into a jail?

If the state wants to hold them for trial, that’s fine. Notify ICE and they can be detained by ice if they are released by the court.

Do you WANT illegal alien rapists, thieves and murderers roaming your communities?

Maybe states have no obligation even to notify ice about people with a detainer. But by the same token, the federal government has no obligation to keep sending grants for law enforcement to states who openly announce that they will not enforce the law.

 

[Leviticus]

No one is asking him to hunt anyone down. But when they arrest a murderer, armed robber, rapist, child molester, thief, or barroom brawler and it turns out They have an ice detainer, why in the world would they not notify ICE so that ice agents can come get them in jail where it will be a safe arrest?

Why put the federal authorities in a position to have to send teams of agents into communities instead of a pair of agents into a jail?

If the state wants to hold them for trial, that’s fine. Notify ICE and they can be detained by ice if they are released by the court.

Do you WANT illegal alien rapists, thieves and murderers roaming your communities?

Maybe states have no obligation even to notify ice about people with a detainer. But by the same token, the federal government has no obligation to keep sending grants for law enforcement to states who openly announce that they will not enforce the law.

can you cite one actual case?The authorities in a sanctuary city had someone in custody on murder charges and let them go because they were in the legal immigrant. And by cite I mean verifiable documentation not something posted on a right wing blog.

What trump is demanding is that they arrest illegal immigrants solely based on their immigration status and hold them for federal authorities. This is something that states are not obligated to do.

 

[protectionist]

can you cite one actual case?The authorities in a sanctuary city had someone in custody on murder charges and let them go because they were in the legal immigrant. And by cite I mean verifiable documentation not something posted on a right wing blog.

What trump is demanding is that they arrest illegal immigrants solely based on their immigration status and hold them for federal authorities. This is something that states are not obligated to do.

For the 10,000th time, the important difference between a state’s or city’s (a) decision not to help the feds (which it is allowed to do)... and (b) positive obstruction or interference with the feds (which it is forbidden from doing), is what you overlook.

Homan made clear that the feds would not attempt to commandeer state and city officials. He acknowledged that such officials have no duty to help federal immigration agents. But they may not interfere with the agents in the execution of their duties, or take affirmative steps to conceal or shield illegal immigrants from federal law enforcement.
Which is exactly what sanctuary cities are doing.
Enacting sanctuary laws = "take affirmative steps"

ANDREW McCARTHY: Trump's incoming border czar issues a warning sanctuary cities ignore at their own peril

We know from experience (in the last Trump administration) that open-borders advocate organizations will forum-shop cases to activist progressive judges who will rule in their favor.

www.foxnews.com

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[eagle1462010]