President Trump orders attack on Venezuelan drug runners at sea

[Sherlock Holmes]

Wrong. As usual. That you lack the ability to review the evidence doesn’t mean that there is no evidence.

And many of us have seen military videos (largely, as I recall, from our Coast Guard) in which drug runners with plenty of drugs tried to deny commands to come to a stop and get boarded. Instead, they chose to try to escape with their high speed crafts. Oops.

They must have forgotten that bullets are faster than their boats.

If you really want to make the claim that what President Trump ordered was a supposedly “criminal” act, you can’t do so by merely invoking the phrase, “maritime law.”

Be specific. Cite the applicable law and section, etc. and assemble all the then existing facts (not substituting your own jaundiced speculation).

Otherwise, in the vernacular, your lips are just flapping and nothing more.

OK So its not illegal to blow up boats just because we want to.

 

[citygator]

/——/ It’s ok to arrest and deport ILLEGAL ALIENS you nimrod. Your only argument is to distort the truth?

/——/

I listed dozens of US citizens and their stories in another thread who were illegally arrested and detained by ICE due to their appearance and in some cases even deported. I dont think that bothers you. I think the ends justifies the means with you red hats.

 

[LeftofLeft]

You're making it up again.

Trumpsters do that a lot lately. Make it up.

They don't try and defend their fuhrer's behavior. Just try and make excuses and make up things to justify it.

As you did here.

What did I make up? Better yet, can you come to the table for once with a proposed solution that is devoid of anything getTrump?

 

[LeftofLeft]

If they’re tapped, prove it

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-107785

 

[BackAgain]

I guess that is just life. Dead people who may or may not have deserved it but as long as the Feds are wearing a red hat all is ok.

I just dont understand you guys anymore. I used to. We used to debate over tax policies and social programs. Now we debate whether its ok for the government to arrest citizens and deport them and blow up people with no due process. Its getting way out of kilter.

Due process? For what amounts to piracy on the high seas?

And if not “piracy,” then (minimally) maritime crimes on the high seas?

Here’s some useful info:

HITRON
Another of the Coast Guard’s responses to the threat posed by long range, speedy fast boats, was the formation of the Helicopter Interdiction Tactical Squadron (HITRON). HITRON helicopters were equipped 7.72 mm MGs and a .50 caliber, laser sighted, precision rifle. When a fast boat attempted to outrun a cutter, its assigned HITRON aircraft would quickly overtake the fleeing vessel, and if both commands to stop and warning shots across its bow were ignored, the helicopter’s gunner would disable the go-fasts engines with a shot from the .50 caliber rifle.

Enforcing the Law at Sea—Drug Interdiction since 1886! Pt. 2: The Rise of Marijuana and Cocaine - National Coast Guard Museum

Following a decades-long pause that began soon after the end of Prohibition, the Coast Guard was once again called upon to combat maritime drug smugglers in the early 1970s.

nationalcoastguardmuseum.org

 

[jknowgood]

The object of the exercise is to get some video of a missile blowing up a boat on Fox to entertain Trump's jingoistic audience.

He could care less about the war on drugs.

He knows his base can't find Venezuela on a map or tell you anything informed about the drug trade (cocaine is not produced in Venezuela).

This is the same clown who claimed that Hugo Chavez rigged the Dominion voting machines. (even though Chavez had been dead for years at that point).

You do realize, you loons have been wrong about everything on Trump?

 

[BackAgain]

OK So its not illegal to blow up boats just because we want to.

I don’t recall saying implying or suggesting any such thing.

In fact, it’s clear that I never did say or imply or suggest any such thing.

So, ok. You just lied, yet again, Hemlock Shithead.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I don’t recall saying implying or suggesting any such thing.

In fact, it’s clear that I never did say or imply or suggest any such thing.

So, ok. You just lied, yet again, Hemlock Shithead.

Show me the law that gives people the right to impose the death penalty on the open seas without the oversight of a court and trial with an evaluation of evidence?

Were there actually any drugs? if so what and how much?

Of course it's the same right that you grant to "settlers" to raid and kill Palestinians and steal their home.

Piracy.

 

[HikerGuy83]

You don't know the boat was carrying drugs. You don't know where it was going.

You don't know that they don't know......

 

[HikerGuy83]

Trump is poisoning the country with his lies.

And you are making us laugh with yours.

 

[konradv]

Not sure what makes me MAGA but okay. I guess it's better to make accusations than to step up and admit you were mistaken. That would require honesty which you seem to have an apparent lack of.

I’m not mistaken. That’s your mistake. If we’re not at war, why was the boat bombed and not just intercepted?

 

[konradv]

And you are making us laugh with yours.

I didn’t know sheep could laugh.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I didn’t know sheep could laugh.

That's probably because when you are around one, you are more focused on other things.

 

[konradv]

That's probably because when you are around one, you are more focused on other things.

True, I try not to be involved with you sheeple.

 

[Delldude]

If you had bothered to read your own link, you would find that the Coast Guard was in charge of the operation. Your article mentioned it several times.

Only the boarding part.

Little more detail:

PACIFIC OCEAN –
The U.S. Coast Guard, in coordination with the U.S. Navy destroyer USS Sampson (DDG 102), interdicted two suspected drug smugglers, and seized approximately 3,439 pounds of cocaine in international waters of the Eastern Pacific Ocean July 10.
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Tactical control of the Sampson was transferred from U.S. Third Fleet to Coast Guard Southwest District for interdiction and apprehension authority. When the U.S. Navy MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter, assigned to the "Scorpions" of Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 49, launched from the Sampson and signaled its presence, the suspects aboard began jettisoning packages into the ocean. After warning shots were ineffective, the helicopter crew employed disabling fire, successfully stopping the vessel.

https://www.northcom.mil/Newsroom/News/Article/Article/4251152/us-coast-guard-uss-sampson-conduct-drug-interdiction-in-eastern-pacific/

Cocaine comes from Columbia, Peru and Ecuador.

Notice how Venezuela is absent from that list.

Drugs are trafficked through Venezuela, destined for U.S. and European markets. State has described Venezuela as a preferred route for trafficking drugs, predominately cocaine. Individuals in the Maduro regime collaborated with the National Liberation Army (Ejército de Liberación Nacional, known by its Spanish abbreviation ELN) and dissidents of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia, known as FARC dissidents) to transport cocaine through Venezuela, according to the Commander of the U.S. Southern Command.

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105668

Illegal drug trade in Venezuela is the practice of illegal drug trading in Venezuela. Venezuela has been a path to the United States for cocaine originating in Colombia, through Central America and Mexico and Caribbean countries such as Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico. In the 2010s, Venezuela also gradually became a major producer of cocaine.

Illegal drug trade in Venezuela - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2019:

Ongoing tensions, in which Colombia has recognized Venezuela’s opposition leader Juan Guaido as its interim president, meant few Colombian officials would mention Venezuela by name. But it was clear that most of the cocaine grown in Colombia’s Vichada border region is trafficked across the long, porous eastern border.
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Once inside Venezuela, the drugs are then whisked through military checkpoints and escorted or waved on by the army, allege US and regional officials and several Venezuelan army defectors.

A defector from the Venezuelan border patrol told CNN that it was once his task to pick out trucks carrying traffickers’ cocaine and ensure they passed through the border swiftly. He said this happened as often as three times a week, during the five-year period he served in the border region.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/17/americas/venezuela-drug-cocaine-trafficking-intl

Has nothing to do with Trump's latest gimmick.

It was provided for Professor Lesh who claimed it was USCG's sole responsibility.

 

[HikerGuy83]

11 Democrats heroes killed.

Poor Van Hollen. Didn’t get the chance to have a margarita with them.

I like this. If they don’t immediately surrender, just make them shark bait.

Video shows US military blasting drug boat, killing 11 suspected Venezuelan Tren de Aragua narco-terrorists

The U.S. military conducted a lethal strike against a Venezuelan drug vessel operated by a narco-terrorist organization, Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed.

www.foxnews.com

Oh...that's gotta hurt.

 

[HikerGuy83]

True, I try not to be involved with you sheeple.

But it is clear you are involved with sheep.

As an established incel, it's all you have.

Now, keep us out of your love life.

Please.

 

[konradv]

But it is clear you are involved with sheep.

Can’t get away from MAGA; they’re like cockroaches.

 

[percysunshine]

 

[konradv]

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I thought it wasn’t a war. Can MAGA stick to one story?!