President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

[Againsheila]

Not nearly as tiring as the false claim (shared by you) that there is any "outrage" at all, much less this alleged "false outrage."

I see no outrage.

I see commentary. I see derision (justified). But outrage? Nope.

And nobody can justify the granting of such an award to this President on the basis of anything he has ever actually done. That probably merits another mention since Obamaphile hacks like to just skip past that point.

Commentary doesn't last for 700+ posts you hack.

This is outrage as it's best.

The thing is, this award affects none of us. So therefore, you have no reason to give a **** about it. As previously mentioned, the fact you put so much weight into this award in the first place makes me question some things.

By the way, the award could of gone to plenty of other deserving people. Guess what? It didn't. I wanted The Dark Knight to win Best Movie of the Year but it didn't even get nominated. Did I ***** for weeks and cry on a message board about a award that didn't affect me like some of you people will probably be doing so? No. I shrugged and said well better luck next time.

The only people who have a right to be "outraged" really are the ones who lost.

Excuse me? What kind of logic is that?

 

[GWV5903]

It has become so absurd that liberals such as yourself deny the success in Iraq

Numerous friends, family and business associates have repeated the same story time and time again, the majority of the Iraqi's love the fact that we did what we did, they can buy milk on a daily basis, bread, the newspaper, own cell phones, live their lives with more freedoms than they have ever had......are you sure they have not been liberated???

Try this you never know, it might help.....

They couldn't buy milk and bread on a daily basis before Saddam?

Also:

Most Iraqis Favor Immediate U.S. Pullout, Polls Show - washingtonpost.com

Even going back to 2004:

USATODAY.com - Poll: Iraqis out of patience

BAGHDAD — Only a third of the Iraqi people now believe that the American-led occupation of their country is doing more good than harm, and a solid majority support an immediate military pullout even though they fear that could put them in greater danger, according to a new USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll

The poll shows that most continue to say the hardships suffered to depose Saddam Hussein were worth it. Half say they and their families are better off than they were under Saddam. And a strong majority say they are more free to worship and to speak

But while they acknowledge benefits from dumping Saddam a year ago, Iraqis no longer see the presence of the American-led military as a plus. Asked whether they view the U.S.-led coalition as "liberators" or "occupiers," 71% of all respondents say "occupiers

I'm not ungrateful that they took away Saddam Hussein," says Salam Ahmed, 30, a Shiite businessman. "But the job is done. Thank you very much. See you later. Bye-bye

"I would shoot at the Americans right now if I had the chance," says Abbas Kadhum Muia, 24, who owns a bicycle shop in Sadr City, a Shiite slum of 2 million people in Baghdad that was strongly anti-Saddam and once friendly to the Americans. "At the beginning ... there were no problems, but gradually they started to show disrespect (and) encroach on our rights, arresting people."

If that's love, I rather be unloved.

If you call the people of Afghanistan and Iraq liberated then perhaps you won't mind going to live over there for a few years? Unless of course you feel you'll need the McCain treatment.

It has become so absurd that liberals such as yourself deny the success in Iraq

Numerous friends, family and business associates have repeated the same story time and time again, the majority of the Iraqi's love the fact that we did what we did, they can buy milk on a daily basis, bread, the newspaper, own cell phones, live their lives with more freedoms than they have ever had......are you sure they have not been liberated???

Try this you never know, it might help.....

I can play that game as well. The majority of Liberals love the fact that we will be going home, that we are not patrolling their streets, that we are not polluting their cultural and religious environment. And the government will ally with Iraq as soon as we are gone to make sure we never come back.

You misspelled Liberal, I corrected it for you here, can you see it now???

Nope, banghead, this is not a victory.

Jake, there you go playing games again, this is an adult conversation, now get back to your room before you embarrass yourself some more.....

 

[Modbert]

So? Have we annexed Afghanistan yet?

Silly Statist LIB toad...

In WAR you are there either to Liberate the oppressed, or there to take over the Country.

Which is it numbnuts?

And YES we Liberated them, or didn't the recent election say anything to you ?

Are you normally this dense, DoggieStyle?

Except we went to Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Qaeda. The fact that the Government was involved with the group was only a circumstance.

And the election that is coming under fair for voting fraud? And have you by any chance taken a look at the Afghanistan Constitution lately?

Afghanistan: Law Curbing Women’s Rights Takes Effect | Human Rights Watch

A copy of the final law seen by Human Rights Watch shows that many regressive articles remain, which strip away women's rights that are enshrined in Afghanistan's constitution. The law gives a husband the right to withdraw basic maintenance from his wife, including food, if she refuses to obey his sexual demands. It grants guardianship of children exclusively to their fathers and grandfathers. It requires women to get permission from their husbands to work. It also effectively allows a rapist to avoid prosecution by paying "blood money" to a girl who was injured when he raped her

Karzai signed the Shia Personal Status Law in March, prompting a national and international storm of protest. The law regulates the personal affairs of Shia Muslims - who make up between 10 and 20 percent of the population - including divorce, separation, inheritance, and the minimum age for marriage. The initial version of the law included articles that imposed drastic restrictions on Shia women, including a requirement to ask permission to leave the house except on urgent business, and a requirement that a wife have sex with her husband at least once every four days.

The law was designed in secret by a powerful and hard-line Shia leader, Ayatollah Asif Mohseni, and supported by conservative Shia leaders in parliament. Many women activists have accused Karzai of abandoning his previous moderate views on women's rights to help him secure votes in the presidential election.

Yep! Look liberated to me! Meet the new boss, same as old the boss.

 

[Modbert]

Excuse me? What kind of logic is that?

Neither award affects us. I felt the award in both cases should of gone to more deserving people. It didn't. However, it doesn't affect me personally in either way so therefore it doesn't matter that much.

 

[DiveCon]

So? Have we annexed Afghanistan yet?

Silly Statist LIB toad...

In WAR you are there either to Liberate the oppressed, or there to take over the Country.

Which is it numbnuts?

And YES we Liberated them, or didn't the recent election say anything to you ?

Are you normally this dense, DoggieStyle?

Except we went to Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Qaeda. The fact that the Government was involved with the group was only a circumstance.

And the election that is coming under fair for voting fraud? And have you by any chance taken a look at the Afghanistan Constitution lately?

Afghanistan: Law Curbing Women’s Rights Takes Effect | Human Rights Watch

A copy of the final law seen by Human Rights Watch shows that many regressive articles remain, which strip away women's rights that are enshrined in Afghanistan's constitution. The law gives a husband the right to withdraw basic maintenance from his wife, including food, if she refuses to obey his sexual demands. It grants guardianship of children exclusively to their fathers and grandfathers. It requires women to get permission from their husbands to work. It also effectively allows a rapist to avoid prosecution by paying "blood money" to a girl who was injured when he raped her

Karzai signed the Shia Personal Status Law in March, prompting a national and international storm of protest. The law regulates the personal affairs of Shia Muslims - who make up between 10 and 20 percent of the population - including divorce, separation, inheritance, and the minimum age for marriage. The initial version of the law included articles that imposed drastic restrictions on Shia women, including a requirement to ask permission to leave the house except on urgent business, and a requirement that a wife have sex with her husband at least once every four days.

The law was designed in secret by a powerful and hard-line Shia leader, Ayatollah Asif Mohseni, and supported by conservative Shia leaders in parliament. Many women activists have accused Karzai of abandoning his previous moderate views on women's rights to help him secure votes in the presidential election.

Yep! Look liberated to me! Meet the new boss, same as old the boss.

its the government they elected

 

[The T]

so? Have we annexed afghanistan yet?

Silly statist lib toad...

in war you are there either to liberate the oppressed, or there to take over the country.

which is it numbnuts?

And yes we liberated them, or didn't the recent election say anything to you ?

Are you normally this dense, doggiestyle?

except we went to afghanistan to eliminate al-qaeda. The fact that the government was involved with the group was only a circumstance.

And the election that is coming under fair for voting fraud? And have you by any chance taken a look at the afghanistan constitution lately?

afghanistan: Law curbing women’s rights takes effect | human rights watch

karzai signed the shia personal status law in march, prompting a national and international storm of protest. The law regulates the personal affairs of shia muslims - who make up between 10 and 20 percent of the population - including divorce, separation, inheritance, and the minimum age for marriage. The initial version of the law included articles that imposed drastic restrictions on shia women, including a requirement to ask permission to leave the house except on urgent business, and a requirement that a wife have sex with her husband at least once every four days.

the law was designed in secret by a powerful and hard-line shia leader, ayatollah asif mohseni, and supported by conservative shia leaders in parliament. Many women activists have accused karzai of abandoning his previous moderate views on women's rights to help him secure votes in the presidential election.

yep! Look liberated to me! Meet the new boss, same as old the boss.

its the government they elected

bingo.

 

[The T]

So? Have we annexed Afghanistan yet?

Silly Statist LIB toad...

In WAR you are there either to Liberate the oppressed, or there to take over the Country.

Which is it numbnuts?

And YES we Liberated them, or didn't the recent election say anything to you ?

Are you normally this dense, DoggieStyle?

Except we went to Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Qaeda. The fact that the Government was involved with the group was only a circumstance.

And the election that is coming under fair for voting fraud? And have you by any chance taken a look at the Afghanistan Constitution lately?

Afghanistan: Law Curbing Women’s Rights Takes Effect | Human Rights Watch

A copy of the final law seen by Human Rights Watch shows that many regressive articles remain, which strip away women's rights that are enshrined in Afghanistan's constitution. The law gives a husband the right to withdraw basic maintenance from his wife, including food, if she refuses to obey his sexual demands. It grants guardianship of children exclusively to their fathers and grandfathers. It requires women to get permission from their husbands to work. It also effectively allows a rapist to avoid prosecution by paying "blood money" to a girl who was injured when he raped her

Karzai signed the Shia Personal Status Law in March, prompting a national and international storm of protest. The law regulates the personal affairs of Shia Muslims - who make up between 10 and 20 percent of the population - including divorce, separation, inheritance, and the minimum age for marriage. The initial version of the law included articles that imposed drastic restrictions on Shia women, including a requirement to ask permission to leave the house except on urgent business, and a requirement that a wife have sex with her husband at least once every four days.

The law was designed in secret by a powerful and hard-line Shia leader, Ayatollah Asif Mohseni, and supported by conservative Shia leaders in parliament. Many women activists have accused Karzai of abandoning his previous moderate views on women's rights to help him secure votes in the presidential election.

Yep! Look liberated to me! Meet the new boss, same as old the boss.

They were AFFORDED the oppritunity to VOTE for whomever by OUR sweat/Blood Equity. It was their choice wheter YOU personally agree to it or NOT.

But this too, escapes you.

 

[Sarah G]

An interesting take on Obama's Nobel from Rachel Maddow. I wanted to post the transcript but it isn't out yet so if anyone would like to hear a logical argument from the Left on this award:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

As far as the angry right comments, I heard Rush Limbaugh's and Glenn Beck's. Their comments were definately not laughter it was anger. The right insists that the Nobel itself is a joke, Obama winning it is a joke and any past Democratic winner would be a joke yet they continue to complain bitterly about it every single year.

Who are they trying to convince?

 

[Modbert]

its the government they elected

Supposedly. And it is still restricting women. So it's not liberating at all.

UN seeks to explain Afghanistan vote fraud concerns_English_Xinhua

ANALYSIS-U.N.'s Afghan vote fraud row shows split in West | Reuters

In a strongly worded letter to Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, veteran U.S. diplomat Peter Galbraith accused his Norwegian U.N. boss of blocking anti-fraud efforts, which Galbraith said would have forced a second round of voting if carried out properly.

The United Nations responded by sacking Galbraith. The U.N. mission chief, Kai Eide, has rejected the criticism and says he supports a fraud investigation which is still under way

Galbraith is a close ally of Richard Holbrooke, President Barack Obama's point man for Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

[Modbert]

They were AFFORDED the oppritunity to VOTE for whomever by OUR sweat/Blood Equity. It was their choice wheter YOU personally agree to it or NOT.

But this too, escapes you.

Except it wasn't who they voted for.

 

[Si modo]

An interesting take on Obama's Nobel from Rachel Maddow. I wanted to post the transcript but it isn't out yet so if anyone would like to hear a logical argument from the Left on this award:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

As far as the angry right comments, I heard Rush Limbaugh's and Glenn Beck's. Their comments were definately not laughter it was anger. The right insists that the Nobel itself is a joke, Obama winning it is a joke and any past Democratic winner would be a joke yet they continue to complain bitterly about it every single year.

Who are they trying to convince?

So, you link to Maddow. Cool. But those of us who don't watch Limbaugh or Beck are supposed to take your word for it that they were not laughing? Sorry, not going to happen. Links?

 

[mudwhistle]

An interesting take on Obama's Nobel from Rachel Maddow. I wanted to post the transcript but it isn't out yet so if anyone would like to hear a logical argument from the Left on this award:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

As far as the angry right comments, I heard Rush Limbaugh's and Glenn Beck's. Their comments were definately not laughter it was anger. The right insists that the Nobel itself is a joke, Obama winning it is a joke and any past Democratic winner would be a joke yet they continue to complain bitterly about it every single year.

Who are they trying to convince?

I think their point is that the Nobel Prize has been delegitimized by their choices.

Choosing a terrorist, the worst President in recent history, and a POTUS that hasn't accomplished anything in his life other then organize people so they can steal elections. All of these things pretty much puts the Kabosh on any legitimacy the award used to have.

Just like the ACLU, the Nobel Peace Prize committee has been taken over by radicals. So whatever the award used to stand for that pretty much is history. And with each passing year their choices become more and more ridiculous.

 

[The T]

An interesting take on Obama's Nobel from Rachel Maddow. I wanted to post the transcript but it isn't out yet so if anyone would like to hear a logical argument from the Left on this award:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

As far as the angry right comments, I heard Rush Limbaugh's and Glenn Beck's. Their comments were definately not laughter it was anger. The right insists that the Nobel itself is a joke, Obama winning it is a joke and any past Democratic winner would be a joke yet they continue to complain bitterly about it every single year.

Who are they trying to convince?

I think their point is that the Nobel Prize has been delegitimized by their choices.

Choosing a terrorist, the worst President in recent history, and a POTUS that hasn't accomplished anything in his life other then organize people so they can steal elections. All of these things pretty much puts the Kabosh on any legitimacy the award used to have.

Just like the ACLU, the Nobel Peace Prize committee has been taken over by radicals. So whatever the award used to stand for that pretty much is history. And with each passing year their choices become more and more ridiculous.

100% The point. These people have relegated the award to FAR what it's intent was.

 

[Sarah G]

An interesting take on Obama's Nobel from Rachel Maddow. I wanted to post the transcript but it isn't out yet so if anyone would like to hear a logical argument from the Left on this award:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

As far as the angry right comments, I heard Rush Limbaugh's and Glenn Beck's. Their comments were definately not laughter it was anger. The right insists that the Nobel itself is a joke, Obama winning it is a joke and any past Democratic winner would be a joke yet they continue to complain bitterly about it every single year.

Who are they trying to convince?

So, you link to Maddow. Cool. But those of us who don't watch Limbaugh or Beck are supposed to take your word for it that they were not laughing? Sorry, not going to happen. Link?

Have you listened to the link I provided?

 

[The T]

They were AFFORDED the oppritunity to VOTE for whomever by OUR sweat/Blood Equity. It was their choice wheter YOU personally agree to it or NOT.

But this too, escapes you.

Except it wasn't who they voted for.

Then where is the contention? Where is this story in your much heralded Media?

 

[elvis]

Getting an award for Deepthroating the leaders of any and every nation that would allow him to is a slap in the face to Bush?

Ridiculous.

dammit, obama was so confused when he had to apply another technique to please our head-momma. just when he had mastered deep-throating. but he did it well. and obama is now merkel's *****, hey that's how politics work. we euro-weenies laugh at you weaklings, electing this groveller, oh, we were so afraid of this decisive decider guy, who was a war president, and like was totally manly n'shit. we euro-weenies were shaking in our hot pink boots while slurping down dictator jizz.

But slurp it down you did.

But, as you say, nothing to worry about now that we elected Neville Chamberlain Prime ...errr... President.

Well, obama has promised peace in our time, and Chamberlain was very popular immediately after Munich.

 

[Modbert]

Then where is the contention? Where is thios story in your much heralded Media?

UN seeks to explain Afghanistan vote fraud concerns_English_Xinhua

Reuters: ANALYSIS-U.N.'s Afghan vote fraud row shows split in West | Reuters

CNN: Karzai warns West over Afghan vote fraud claims - CNN.com

Karzai threatening.

CNN again: U.S. urges Karzai to allow vote fraud probe - CNN.com

NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/09/30/world/AP-AS-Afghanistan.html

MSNBC: Vote fraud allegations mount in Afghanistan - Afghanistan- msnbc.com

Al Jazeera: Al Jazeera English - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - EU says 1.5m Afghan votes suspect

Washington Post: Accusations Of Vote Fraud Multiply in Afghanistan - washingtonpost.com

WSJ: Karzai Rebuts Allegations of Fraud in Afghan Vote - WSJ.com

BBC: BBC NEWS | South Asia | Afghan election fraud probe grows

And of course:

Fox News: U.N. Officials in Afghanistan Disagree Over Response to Vote Fraud Charges - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

Is that enough for you?

Edit: Daily Show - Another great piece with Stewart.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-september-17-2009/voter-fraud-in-afghanistan

 

[Si modo]

An interesting take on Obama's Nobel from Rachel Maddow. I wanted to post the transcript but it isn't out yet so if anyone would like to hear a logical argument from the Left on this award:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

As far as the angry right comments, I heard Rush Limbaugh's and Glenn Beck's. Their comments were definately not laughter it was anger. The right insists that the Nobel itself is a joke, Obama winning it is a joke and any past Democratic winner would be a joke yet they continue to complain bitterly about it every single year.

Who are they trying to convince?

So, you link to Maddow. Cool. But those of us who don't watch Limbaugh or Beck are supposed to take your word for it that they were not laughing? Sorry, not going to happen. Link?

Have you listened to the link I provided?

Um, dear? You said you heard comments from Limbaugh and Beck that were angry. I take no one's word for anything.

Links?

Check the link you provided. It's to a summary of BHO's approval polls.

 

[Ame®icano]

An interesting take on Obama's Nobel from Rachel Maddow. I wanted to post the transcript but it isn't out yet so if anyone would like to hear a logical argument from the Left on this award:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

As far as the angry right comments, I heard Rush Limbaugh's and Glenn Beck's. Their comments were definately not laughter it was anger. The right insists that the Nobel itself is a joke, Obama winning it is a joke and any past Democratic winner would be a joke yet they continue to complain bitterly about it every single year.

Who are they trying to convince?

So, you link to Maddow. Cool. But those of us who don't watch Limbaugh or Beck are supposed to take your word for it that they were not laughing? Sorry, not going to happen. Link?

Have you listened to the link I provided?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJuEOaF84o]YouTube - Rachel Maddow: The Nobel Prize & Obama Derangement Syndrome[/ame]

 

[DiveCon]

An interesting take on Obama's Nobel from Rachel Maddow. I wanted to post the transcript but it isn't out yet so if anyone would like to hear a logical argument from the Left on this award:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

As far as the angry right comments, I heard Rush Limbaugh's and Glenn Beck's. Their comments were definately not laughter it was anger. The right insists that the Nobel itself is a joke, Obama winning it is a joke and any past Democratic winner would be a joke yet they continue to complain bitterly about it every single year.

Who are they trying to convince?

So, you link to Maddow. Cool. But those of us who don't watch Limbaugh or Beck are supposed to take your word for it that they were not laughing? Sorry, not going to happen. Links?

i heard some of Rush yesterday, he was LAUGHING at it
so sarahg just proves once more what a moron she is