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Why? Americans also teach their children to use the weapons, sometimes even in pre-school age.Are you even aware of how completely mental that comes across?
Why? Americans also teach their children to use the weapons, sometimes even in pre-school age.
So, this your weakness, not your goodness. It is not "insane" to teach children to fight (children can be tought) just your government try to keep your population unarmed, untrained and uneducated.Not in an organized fashion like that. They are taught like I was, by my grandfather. Primarily for hunting.
Right now the USA don't have a strong continental enemy, and, many of American politicians and decision-makers believe that they a luxury to keep the population untrained, for there will be significant time before foreign invasion actually occured. Others believe that the trained reserve and capability of mobilisation is necessary even (and especially) in the nuclear war between Russia and the USA, for there will be necessarity of evacuation, alleviation of the immediate consequences of the nuclear strikes, patching up immediate economical problems, elimination of numerous gangs, recuperation of economy, etc...And I bet that 90% of those 18 or over in the US have never actually fired a gun.
Were you? Really? And Mushroom said you were not.We were taught to protect livestock from predators.
Hitler tried that with 'the Hitlerjugend'.There should be a program where everyone goes into some basic military training, something like an abbreviated program like the reserves have. It would instill patriotism and give everyone a chance to mingle with other Americans across the country which may reduce some of the division in our country.
I don't know what Mushroom said, but, yes, we were taught to protect the livestock.Were you? Really? And Mushroom said you were not.
I have not noticed the Chinese Navy off the coast of Florida.The younger generation may need to save the world again. Hopefully they stay in shape and don't just lift their computer mouses and latte coffee mugs. China is spending more on their navy for offensive purposes and far less on the army which is meant for defensive purposes. They are more efficient than the U.S as on a PPP basis both China and Russia have increased significantly and they are more efficient.
Anyone believe the British and French are ready to help America in the SCS? If they would help at all (thanks for the help guys after the world helped you on Ukraine). How about Germany?
The young better stay in shape, conscription could be a reality in half a dozen nations, that is how critical the Taiwan issue is.
Russia tried it with Young Guard and won the war. But it's not about using women or children as soldiers (while it could be necessary sometimes), its about starting the military education in schools. If you want more or less effective draft army and, more important, you want to have capability to increase is swiftly - you have to start military education in schools. Modern warfare is pretty sophisticated nowadays, there are a lot of sophisticated equipment.Hitler tried that with 'the Hitlerjugend'.
and my my, look how much luck that brought the Germans in WW2.
getting firebombed, raped, and killed by invading troops.
just saying.
It depends on how good is he prepared, not about how old is he. And, say, 18-year soldier after 2 month of the training camp followed, say six years of two-hour a week school initially military training education, might be better prepared to face a "fire spewing tank" than a twenty-year old soldier after just two months of the training camp.child soldiers just make bad choices, like sitting in a manhole with a fire spewing tank on aproach.
What war are you guys planning on starting?
Preparing for the Possibility of a Draft Without Panic8 Aug 2024 ~~ By Taren Sylvester & Catherine Kuzminski
Preparing for the Possibility of a Draft Without Panic - War on the Rocks
Conscription — a practice most Americans believe should be relegated to the dustbin of history — has returned as an uncomfortable topic of conversationwarontherocks.com
Conscription — a practice most Americans believe should be relegated to the dustbin of history — has returned as an uncomfortable topic of conversation among U.S. allies and adversaries alike. This has generated concern and even conspiracy theories among American voters. But a candid discussion would be healthier. The fact is, if the United States hopes to deter or defeat a Chinese attack on Taiwan, it should be prepared to effectively implement a draft. To be clear, this is a solution of last resort, but one that may be necessary.
Right now, U.S. mobilization has not been tested in decades. As a result, current ideas about how it would function are woefully out of date. Being prepared to execute a draft requires buy-in from across all branches of government — and society writ large.
At a minimum, the executive branch and Congress should actively pursue a more proactive approach. The National Security Council should take the lead on mobilization exercises. Congress should also get out ahead on expanding Selective Service System registration to all Americans between the ages of 18–25, thereby preventing future legal challenges to the current all-male registration system when time may be of the essence. Policymakers should also consider the skills that would be required in a future conflict and how the nation would sustain its economy while maintaining the human capital required in large-scale combat operations. Finally, the professional all-volunteer force should consider and train for a possibility in which they would have to absorb conscript forces into their ranks.
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A recent proposal to automate Selective Service System registration for men on their 18th birthdays coupled with debate that the current all-male registration should be expanded to include all Americans has generated public rumors that the nation is on a wartime footing. These concerns are unfounded, but Americans’ confusion and anxiety over the use of the draft is understandable.
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However, the burden of service was no longer shared by all American men, as many in the upper and middle classes could avoid it with relative ease. When the demand for and deployment of conscripts increased as the United States entrenched itself in Vietnam, resistance to the draft grew rapidly.
In the years since the transition to the all-volunteer force, any discussion of reintroducing conscription has generated fear of returning to the Vietnam-era draft. However, current circumstances more closely mirror the political state of the nation in the mid-1910s than the 1960s. Today, the United States is as far from the last use of conscription during the Vietnam War as the drafters of the 1917 Selective Service Act were from the Civil War.
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Conclusion
The all-volunteer force was always intended to be supported by a stand-by draft. That being said, it should be understood — by political leaders, military leaders, and, perhaps more importantly, by the American public — that conscription is and must necessarily be the option of last resort. The political will that would be necessary to move the needle on any issue involving conscription is nearly insurmountable. As such, it is likely that the only circumstance where the reintroduction of conscription would be even plausible is a crisis of the highest order — the very same motivation that is spurring Ukraine, Taiwan, and many others to reexamine their conscription systems.
Commentary:
"You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time." ~~ Donald Rumsfeld
With the advances in technology the reality of war brcomes more and more a possibilty.
Along the the advances comes the devatation and speed of attack.
Study history: They tend to reserve the word ‘war’ more for aggression between nation states, but if you include territorial warlords all the way down to village tribalism in that category, the times of greatest peace are experience by those who are strongest and all their neighbors know it, and is an exception, not a rule.
War is an unavoidable feature of humanity
In the end it comes down to boots on the ground.
The fact is, if the U.S. hopes to deter or defeat a Chinese attack on Taiwan, an Iranian attack on Israel, or Russia expands it's war on Ukriane into Europe, it should be prepared to effectively implement a draft. To be clear, this is a solution of last resort, but one that may be necessary.
The other scenario one must look at is, if we are “attacked” by China or Russia it would escalate faster than a fat ass Command Sergeant Major from Minnesota could roll himself over to the cabinet to pull out the plan.
Our military might recall people from the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), but they have no need for Gen Z malcontents.
If that happens, the war is already over.
They look at war as some sort of sporting event.What war are you guys planning on starting?
It is not "insane" to teach children to fight
I have not noticed the Chinese Navy off the coast of Florida.
for the record : i certainly don't.They look at war as some sort of sporting event.
not if it's Russian national tradition to be doing this (during some decades of heightened international tensions).There are multiple international laws and conventions that Russia is a signatory to. That includes the "Convention of the Rights of the Child", the Geneva Conventions, and others that prohibit training children to serve in war.
Which is what you are showing us, something very different than my grandfather teaching me to fire a gun. One is done by family, you are showing actual military training that is in contravention of International law. And not only that, but you are bragging about it and are proud of it?
Wow, Putin's nation is even closer to NSDAP Germany than I had ever imagined.
that's true, i guess.Russia tried it with Young Guard and won the war. But it's not about using women or children as soldiers (while it could be necessary sometimes), its about starting the military education in schools. If you want more or less effective draft army and, more important, you want to have capability to increase is swiftly - you have to start military education in schools. Modern warfare is pretty sophisticated nowadays, there are a lot of sophisticated equipment.
It depends on how good is he prepared, not about how old is he. And, say, 18-year soldier after 2 month of the training camp followed, say six years of two-hour a week school initially military training education, might be better prepared to face a "fire spewing tank" than a twenty-year old soldier after just two months of the training camp.
Actually, if you teach your schoolboys to make and use anti-tank UAVs - you, after 100 hours of training, at least, know who is good and who is bad in it.
not if it's Russian national tradition to be doing this
No. International treaties has nothing to do about specific of the school education.There are multiple international laws and conventions that Russia is a signatory to. That includes the "Convention of the Rights of the Child", the Geneva Conventions, and others that prohibit training children to serve in war.
I like the fact, that our education is better than yours. Are you proud about your LGBT+ education and children mitigation?Which is what you are showing us, something very different than my grandfather teaching me to fire a gun. One is done by family, you are showing actual military training that is in contravention of International law. And not only that, but you are bragging about it and are proud of it?
It depends. If necessary we can be much, much worse than them.Wow, Putin's nation is even closer to NSDAP Germany than I had ever imagined.
