Prepared Speeches Not The Donald's Forte?

[RodISHI]

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

You heard what? Did you read the budget or are you listening to some talking head tell you what they want you to hear so you will get your "butt hurt" in an uproar?

Disability has nothing to do with food stamps which is a function of Social Security.

Go apply for disability.

That has NOTHING to do with food stamps! Why are you pressing this point which is obviously wrong?

It has to do with living. What none of you people seem to understand is that food stamps barely pays for food, but you can still be disabled and not qualify for disability. Or it can take years of jumping through hoops before they qualify you. Meantime the bills are still coming in. Too many people here with opinions on things they know nothing about.

What the heck does disability have to do with food stamps? Nothing! They are not even remotely related! Why can't you see that?

My daughter has two boys and a deadbeat for an ex-husband. In the past 8 years he has contributed almost nothing while I helped fed and clothe my grandsons. They were on food stamps for a while, so I am well familiar with the topic. Think single moms with kids do better than those on disability?

I think we should lock these deadbeats up and put them to work on a daily work release program so they can earn money to pay their required support. But then again, I just pay his bills directly and those other deadbeats through my tax dollars. When do I get a break?

Not everyone has a family member to help them and I agree deadbeats that refuse to do their part should be forced to do so but that doesn't always work that away. Between non payment and someone in the collection bureau making off with that tiny bit of monthly child support my children were supposed to get I was shorted over forty grand. It could have been collected but the person in charge of doing that refused do to local political bs were we lived back then. So if everyone isn't doing their part then everyone else suffers for it but it shouldn't be the poor that do more suffering.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Where does it say the disabled have to work?

Have you read the details of the budget?

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

Where does it say the disabled have to work?

Have you read the details of the budget?

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

You heard what? Did you read the budget or are you listening to some talking head tell you what they want you to hear so you will get your "butt hurt" in an uproar?

Disability has nothing to do with food stamps which is a function of Social Security.

Go apply for disability.

Everyone with a "sore" back thinks they deserve disability...guess what everyone over 40 has a sore back.
Disability fraud runs rampant and I'm thinking I'm not the only one who knows that. How dare your SDI office not issue benefits to any lazy piece of shit who requests it.
Those bastards and their qualification standards!

 

[toobfreak]

They won't be cutting it off if the person is actually working!

Nope! They just force you to take a lowest paying job. As soon as you start making $8.50 an hour, they just cut your food stamps by 30%, so you end up WORSE OFF working than when you were not! Not enough income to pay your basic bills, now not even enough money to eat. Now you are down to FOUR DOLLARS A DAY FOR FOOD. And that was already a very bad situation before. Then there are the costs of travel, car upkeep, etc. Not trying to make excuses, mind you, just telling you how it really is. Obviously, none of you people really KNOW. Which one of you are now going to tell us how to eat on $4.00 a day?

 

[RodISHI]

Made by making the disabled work? Made by making someone take a menial job that pays too little to even live on that they lose their house? Why don't you know THAT?

The non disabled can work. They should work. If they lose their house, it won't be the first house someone lost. You should not make someone's mortgage payment and neither should I.

Most of the poor that are disabled don't own a house.

Which means some of them do. What if the person is not a career public welfare person? What if the person simply has had some bad luck, injury, sickness? What if the person has great value to offer the public? The system you are so fond of forces that person into poverty, losing their house, and everything. Public housing is not always available. Then where do you go? Why don't you try visiting a housing project? Take care of you? What opportunity will you have if through no fault of your own, you are driven into poverty living in a crime-ridden filthy housing project living on food stamps? I have seen people commit suicide because if this. They have lost everything, and all because of a system that drives you down so far into poverty just to survive that you can't get back out rather than help you get back up on your feet working. People who WANT to work, want their lives back, but the jobs aren't there or the system is simply too slow and geared mainly for the chronically needy, especially those who go out, get pregnant, just to get the benefits, then leave the kids in squalor so they have better lives. Then those kids grow up to be the same.

ALL YOU PEOPLE who talk about limiting people to milk, bread and cheese to eat and forcing them out into menial, low paying jobs like you are so indignant they need your help and have so little compassion are almost as much to blame for the vast growing poverty neighborhoods as the government! What is broken about the system is that it funds poverty, and rather than helping people get back up leading productive, quality lives, all it does is put more people into abject poverty. Pretty easy to say all a person deserves is milk and cheese to live on when it isn't yourself or someone you know and care about.

Your kinda' telling it this to the wrong person. We are about as poor as you get but still own our place. Most peeps wouldn't live in it as it is that bad but it is ours we paid cash for it prior to the thieves, the corrupt government employees, corrupt insurance companies, corrupt lawyers and robber baron banksters went after us. My health has been on the edge since being hurt at work, Rod has been permanently partially disable since 1985 and that wasn't a problem as long as I could still maintain some kind of enterprise but when the corrupt went after us I couldn't keep up and getting hurt on the job along with the fact that those bastards were going to let me die left us in a pretty dire situation. It is pretty tough to maintain any will to keep on going and hoping that we can survive long enough to figure out a way to overcome health obstacles without any professional medical help at this stage in the game. I even slept in the car last winter for a week in an attempt to rustle up some business with old clientele. Freezing my ass off at night in the car, still sick and in extreme pain I only manage to do that long enough for a few small jobs. I thank God it wasn't this bad when the children were small as back then trying to maintain I'm not sure that I could have done it with the knowledge of today about how the system can f**k you at will and the law matters not a damn thing to any of those whom are supposed to be defending and keeping the laws.

I watched my nephew grow up intermediately in a situation like you speak about. His mother was literally a street prostitute. Bless her heart I couldn't stand her but I have to give her credit she did try to take care of her children and she suffered the consequences of her own youthful choices. She died before she was forty-five of aids. She and her children lived in one of those trailers for years that a lot of the leftist and righwingers on here attribute to one another as being trailer trash. I can't imagine a society so heartless that they would have wanted those children to go hungry by cutting off her foodstamp allotment for the children. A pastor was in the children's lives off and on through the years but no one really did much for any of them to help them break away from that life. I took the nephew in for a summer but couldn't maintain keeping him but he did learn some skills while he was with us. Short of it, now there are several adults kinda screwed up roaming around that are a mess too. How many children do they have roaming around they helped make only God knows as I haven't kept track over the years.

They won't be cutting it off if the person is actually working!

My tax bill when I ran a business with well over forty employees for a lot of years put a pretty big dent in our budget so I do believe I did a good share of my part in all that supporting the system too. In having all those employees over the years I do believe I have a little bit of an idea what people go through in their daily struggles to find and maintain work. We had a very large variety that applied for work and actually worked for us. There must be jobs in order to find one. A person cannot have expenses to get to and from work that are more than they can make to have a job or they may as well set tight and live out of their cars instead of giving away more than they are bringing in.

 

[RodISHI]

Where does it say the disabled have to work?

Have you read the details of the budget?

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

Where does it say the disabled have to work?

Have you read the details of the budget?

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

You heard what? Did you read the budget or are you listening to some talking head tell you what they want you to hear so you will get your "butt hurt" in an uproar?

Disability has nothing to do with food stamps which is a function of Social Security.

Go apply for disability.

Everyone with a "sore" back thinks they deserve disability...guess what everyone over 40 has a sore back.
Disability fraud runs rampant and I'm thinking I'm not the only one who knows that. How dare your SDI office not issue benefits to any lazy piece of shit who requests it.
Those bastards and their qualification standards!

Insurance companies that deny coverage to those who get hurt on the job are shuffling their expenses off onto the system. A little gal that has three blown disc is not just complaining about a simple f**king backache. She has three children to support and a system that has continually f'd her over that was supposed to protect her BY LAW. Now after five years of pleading for help and not getting it she drinks and is a mental mess. You tell me who is at fault in that particular situation? I say it is the state and the insurance company that did not enforce the law.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Where does it say the disabled have to work?

Have you read the details of the budget?

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

Where does it say the disabled have to work?

Have you read the details of the budget?

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

You heard what? Did you read the budget or are you listening to some talking head tell you what they want you to hear so you will get your "butt hurt" in an uproar?

Disability has nothing to do with food stamps which is a function of Social Security.

Go apply for disability.

Everyone with a "sore" back thinks they deserve disability...guess what everyone over 40 has a sore back.
Disability fraud runs rampant and I'm thinking I'm not the only one who knows that. How dare your SDI office not issue benefits to any lazy piece of shit who requests it.
Those bastards and their qualification standards!

Insurance companies that deny coverage to those who get hurt on the job are shuffling their expenses off onto the system. A little gal that has three blown disc is not just complaining about a simple f**king backache. She has three children to support and a system that has continually f'd her over that was supposed to protect her BY LAW. Now after five years of pleading for help and not getting it she drinks and is a mental mess. You tell me who is at fault in that particular situation? I say it is the state and the insurance company that did not enforce the law.

Cool story bro!
Nobody gives a shit or acknowledges the 1% of anything.
If she's got a legitimate claim...fucking prove it!
There's a million attorneys who specialize in fighting these cases against states on behalf of claimants. Simple shit!

 

[RodISHI]

Where does it say the disabled have to work?

Have you read the details of the budget?

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

Have you tried applying for disability? You are unable to work, they deny you and tell you good luck, see you in a few YEARS with your appeal. As to the budget, yep, just heard it on TV.

You heard what? Did you read the budget or are you listening to some talking head tell you what they want you to hear so you will get your "butt hurt" in an uproar?

Disability has nothing to do with food stamps which is a function of Social Security.

Go apply for disability.

Everyone with a "sore" back thinks they deserve disability...guess what everyone over 40 has a sore back.
Disability fraud runs rampant and I'm thinking I'm not the only one who knows that. How dare your SDI office not issue benefits to any lazy piece of shit who requests it.
Those bastards and their qualification standards!

Insurance companies that deny coverage to those who get hurt on the job are shuffling their expenses off onto the system. A little gal that has three blown disc is not just complaining about a simple f**king backache. She has three children to support and a system that has continually f'd her over that was supposed to protect her BY LAW. Now after five years of pleading for help and not getting it she drinks and is a mental mess. You tell me who is at fault in that particular situation? I say it is the state and the insurance company that did not enforce the law.

Cool story bro!
Nobody gives a shit or acknowledges the 1% of anything.
If she's got a legitimate claim...fucking prove it!
There's a million attorneys who specialize in fighting these cases against states on behalf of claimants. Simple shit!

She has a legitimate claim and she couldn't live on nothing while they all jacked her around so her mother helped her move to another state; which in turn made it more difficult for her to get care and what is due to her (she worked for Kmart, another scum based corp operative). Your 'lawyers' are helping to f' over people like her as long as they get their pieces and portions they could give a shit about people like her. The system is broke and the insurance companies are taking advantage of that. Its like the ex owing me over forty grand and me not being able to collect it because the system was broken.

 

[toobfreak]

Everyone with a "sore" back thinks they deserve disability...guess what everyone over 40 has a sore back.
Disability fraud runs rampant and I'm thinking I'm not the only one who knows that. How dare your SDI office not issue benefits to any lazy piece of shit who requests it.
Those bastards and their qualification standards!

You know while that is undoubtedly true, in the process, many, most, all of the legitimate cases get caught in the gears. And because there is rampant disability fraud, apparently the unqualified people scamming the system get through a lot fast and easier and longer than many of the legitimate people who play by the rules.

Kinda like legal aliens who try to go through the system properly to immigrate taking them 15 years to get approved. Damn---- just walk across the border and come in!