Preemptive Pardons

[Crepitus]

Let's see how quickly they change their tune.

Not changing my mind.

You certainly seem to have though.

 

[jwoodie]

So it has been admitted that Biden is discussing preemptive pardons. The only such pardon I know of in American history was for former President Nixon, and that was a unique reason for doing so.

The upshot of the Nixon pardon was to preemptively assert executive privilege, which has subsequently been clarified by the Supreme Court. The Biden pardon will ultimately be determined an abuse of that power.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Let's see how quickly they change their tune.

And?.....I think Hunter was already found guilty. So....yeah..duh...

If this is your idea of a flex, it's pretty weak.

 

[Missourian]

You can't be pardoned unless you have been convicted.

And in accepting a pardon you accept guilt.

A pardon is not an exoneration.
Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt.

You understand that acceptance of a pardon is admission of guilt, don't you?

Accepance of a pardon is admission of guilt.

A pardon includes a presumption of guilt

he was PARDONED....a condition of a pardon is bascially an admission of guilt, pussy...

A pardon implies guilt.

Accepting a pardon means he has admitted guilt.

This was about Bannon accepting Trumps pardon, being proof he was guilty of the crime.

In order to qualify for a Presidential Pardon, that person must first admit their guilt.

 

[struth]

And?.....I think Hunter was already found guilty. So....yeah..duh...

If this is your idea of a flex, it's pretty weak.

What about for everything else over the ten years he was given a pardon?

And why are xiden Admin wanting blanket pardons for the time in office?

 

[Missourian]

And?.....I think Hunter was already found guilty. So....yeah..duh...

If this is your idea of a flex, it's pretty weak.

Read the thread title.

This is about preemptive pardons for Cheney, Fauci, Smith, Garland et al...not Hunter.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

What about for everything else over the ten years he was given a pardon?

And why are xiden Admin wanting blanket pardons for the time in office?

Who?...and for what? Given what Trump and his minions are about to visit on this country, the rule of law seems to mean nothing anymore..so....again...a big shrug.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Read the thread title.

This is about preemptive pardons for Cheney, Fauci, Smith, Garland et al...not Hunter.

See Post #27.
Then, I won't have To Show You.

 

[Missourian]

Not changing my mind.

You certainly seem to have though.

Holding the left to their own standard.

They were either full of shit then or they will be full of shit now if they suddenly change their position when it becomes convenient to abandon it.

Nice to see you won't be one of those.

Now if you'll only admit the truth about those other lies we discussed, I'll have some respect for you again.

I get along well with people who have heartfelt conviction, even if they are at 100% odds with my own... but I won't abide a baldfaced liar.

 

[Missourian]

See Post #27.
Then, I won't have To Show You.

A liar and a hypocrite.

Not the least bit unexpected.

Carry on.

 

[struth]

Who?...and for what? Given what Trump and his minions are about to visit on this country, the rule of law seems to mean nothing anymore..so....again...a big shrug.

For their lawless behavior and political prosecutions…everyone from Garland, to Jack smith, to Fauci and Adam Shifty are begging for them.

I agree they wont escape the law with unconstitutional blanket pardons

 

[Crepitus]

Holding the left to their own standard.

They were either full of shit then or they will be full of shit now if they suddenly change their position when it becomes convenient to abandon it.

Nice to see you won't be one of those.

Now if you'll only admit the truth about those other lies we discussed, I'll have some respect for you again.

I get along well with people who have heartfelt conviction, even if they are at 100% odds with my own... but I won't abide a baldfaced liar.

Hunter already pled guilty to this stuff. Not sure what you are bitching about here.

 

[Picaro]

I can't find a single instance of a 'pre-emptive pardon'. How can there be a pardon for a crime if you aren't charged with a crime? It makes no sense.

Frequently Asked Questions

www.justice.gov

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Pardoning people who haven’t been charged with a crime…

So they can go out and do whatever they want now and not get charged with anything?

 

[Picaro]

Pardoning people who haven’t been charged with a crime…

So they can go out and do whatever they want now and not get charged with anything?

Exactly. It makes zero sense, and it's highly unlikely it's legal. No precedent I can find.In fact it appears that accepting one is an admission of guilt.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Exactly. It makes zero sense, and it's highly unlikely it's legal. No precedent I can find.I fact it appears that accepting one is an admission of guilt.

“Nobody is above the law”!!

.. except every Democrat in the Biden administration.. full pre-emptive pardons!!!

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

For their lawless behavior and political prosecutions…everyone from Garland, to Jack smith, to Fauci and Adam Shifty are begging for them.

I agree they wont escape the law with unconstitutional blanket pardons

Except that's all grievance and people doing their jobs. Tough shit.
If Trump is going to pardon actual criminal behavior and be free of prosecution of it himself, who gives a shit about your grievance?

 

[struth]

Except that's all grievance and people doing their jobs. Tough shit.
If Trump is going to pardon actual criminal behavior and be free of prosecution of it himself, who gives a shit about your grievance?

Sorry political prosecutions and abusing their office is not the job of anyone in our republic. Weird you think it is…demafacism has really gotten to you

If all they were doing was their job they wouldn’t need blanket pardons

 

[White 6]

Let's see how quickly they change their tune.

Turns out I was right, didn't it. You quoted "Biden would not pardon Hunter anytime soon. Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt." from

So it certainly wasn't anytime soon back then, long before Hunter's trial. Now Joe has f#cked you, taking Hunter off the table, with nothing to do about it. Anybody that didn't think Joe would pardon his own son, Hunter before leaving office is just a stupid sh!t.

 

[struth]

Turns out I was right, didn't it. You quoted "Biden would not pardon Hunter anytime soon. Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt." from
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So it certainly wasn't anytime soon back then, long before Hunter's trial. Now Joe has f#cked you, taking Hunter off the table, with nothing to do about it. Anybody that didn't think Joe would pardon his own son, Hunter before leaving office is just a stupid sh!t.

I agree, which is why I wasn’t surprise to see all the dembots from msdnc to the view saying how great he was for not pardoning him.

It was pretty clear he had to, and had to do a 10 year blanket pardon after the house released their impeachment finding outlining the criminality the entire family was engaged in for all those years