Zone1 Pray for the Iranian people, many comparisons right now to the Book of Esther.

[ding]

I honestly never understand hobelim's theories so I'm a poor judge.

No one does. He's vague by intention. That's what I was hoping you would see.

 

[alang1216]

Interesting. So if there was a conspiracy and Paul wasn't involved, who else could have done it?

Not a clue. Maybe the anonymous writers of the gospels? Maybe other men whose names are lost to history?

 

[ding]

Not a clue. Maybe the anonymous writers of the gospels? Maybe other men whose names are lost to history?

Paul's epistles preceded the Gospels by a dozen years. If there was a conspiracy, Paul had to be in the thick of it.

 

[alang1216]

Paul's epistles preceded the Gospels by a dozen years. If there was a conspiracy, Paul had to be in the thick of it.

No. If there was a conspiracy, Paul may have heard the oral stories that were already in circulation.

 

[Dante]

What is happening right now in Iran is comparable to what happened in the Book of Esther.

Iranians all across Canada are rejoicing in the streets over the death of an astonishingly evil ruler, who can be compared with Haman of Book of Esther fame.

Pray that the Creator give freedom to the people of Iran to be able to worship freely. Because Iran was a major leader in training terrorists so what is emerging in Iran could be of miraculous benefit to many nations.

Life From Israel with Albert Veksler | War and Purim​

I'm not a praying man or into superstition/religion.

But I will tell you that many of The Iranian People dislike and even hate Jews and Israelis

 

[ding]

No. If there was a conspiracy, Paul may have heard the oral stories that were already in circulation.

Logic dictates the conspirators would have had to be from this group. Which effectively means Paul, Peter or both. You are underestimating the volume and magnitude of the lies being told. It's so massive and far fetched there is no way it was accidental. They had to know full well they were lying.

Saints Peter and Paul were the primary drivers and foundational pillars of the early Christian church. Peter served as the key spokesperson and leader among the twelve apostles, while Paul spearheaded the mission to the Gentiles, establishing churches throughout the Roman Empire. James the Just also led the early Jerusalem church.

Key Drivers of the Early Church:

• Saint Peter (Simon): Considered the leader among Jesus’ apostles and often viewed as the first leader of the church, focusing on Jewish converts.
• Saint Paul (Saul of Tarsus): A prolific missionary and theologian, Paul significantly expanded Christianity beyond Jewish communities to the Gentiles, setting up churches across Europe and Africa.
• James the Just: As the brother of Jesus, he was a key figure in the Jerusalem church and, for a time, served as its primary leader.

Post-Apostolic Leaders (Apostolic Fathers):
Immediately following the apostles, leaders known as the Apostolic Fathers helped solidify the church's structure at the end of the 1st century, including:

• Clement of Rome: Bishop of Rome (c. 88–99), seen as a key early leader who, according to early church historians as noted in this article on Insight for Living, is identified with the companion of Paul mentioned in Philippians 4:3.
• Ignatius of Antioch: A disciple of John who reinforced orthodox teaching.
• Polycarp of Smyrna: Another influential student of the apostles.

These foundational leaders, often referred to as the Apostolic Age (roughly 1st century AD), worked to establish the church's doctrines and structure following Jesus' resurrection.

 

[ding]

I'm not a praying man or into superstition/religion.

But I will tell you that many of The Iranian People dislike and even hate Jews and Israelis

Probably more than they use to too.

 

[Concerned American]

I'm not a praying man or into superstition/religion.

But I will tell you that many of The Iranian People dislike and even hate Jews and Israelis

Apparently tens of thousands of now deceased/murdered Iranians disliked the mullahs in Iran as well, eh?

 

[Dante]

Apparently tens of thousands of now deceased/murdered Iranians disliked the mullahs in Iran as well, eh?

Not sure what you point is.

Whatever is happening in that warped mind of yours is best shut down before you end up on more medications

 

[Dante]

I'm not a praying man or into superstition/religion.

But I will tell you that many of The Iranian People dislike and even hate Jews and Israelis

Probably more than they use to too.

Sadly, I agree

and...

viewing things in very short periods...

David French talks with the retired general about the “great seduction” America fell for in Iran.

McChrystal: If we go back to the American experience starting in 1979, I was a young Special Forces officer, and I remember that the American Embassy in Tehran was seized, and there were people chanting “death to America.”

That was upsetting. And that was only a few years after Vietnam, so I think America was vulnerable emotionally.

Then suddenly you had this country that had been our ally, at least in the minds of most Americans during the Peacock Regime of the Shah, from 53 to 78, we felt comfortable with that. They were the bulwark of stability — and then suddenly in ’79 we saw the rise of Ayatollah Khomeini. And he doesn’t want to negotiate.

We watched a war break out between Iraq and Iran, and most of us were far enough away to say, “Wow. Good. Somebody’s taken on the Iranians. They don’t like Americans, so it’s somebody taking them on.”

Then in 1988, the U.S.S. Vincennes mistook an Iranian airliner for an attacking F-14, and they killed 290 civilians. If you take that period, Iran seemed like a recalcitrant enemy that hated us for some reason that we couldn’t really understand.

Then we get into 2007, when you were in Diyala and I’m leading a counterterrorist task force.

We had to stand up an entirely new task forcefocused on the Shia militia that were supported by Iran — the explosively formed projectiles and all of the things that Iran did to give them capability — and it became a bitter fight.

So, in the minds of someone like me and my force, of course, they were the enemy. They were killing us and we were killing them. It looked as though they were also a threat to not just the mission in Iraq, but the stability across the region.

It becomes emotional; Iran feels like our lifelong enemy right now. I’ll stop there. But I think that’s only part of the story.

...

French: Well, of course, if you say that’s only part of the story, we have to keep going. When the surge started to wind down around 2008, 2009, 2010, there was a real sense that we had won in many ways, that we had really turned the tide by the time I left in late ’08.

I remember the statistics when we got there. If you drove out of the front gate of our base, it was about a 25 percent chance of enemy contact — whether it’s an I.E.D., sniper fire, rockets, mortars, whatever. By the time we left, it was less than a 1 percent chance.

But the story doesn’t end there. The story keeps going, and Iranian-supported militias have been a thorn in our side in Iraq ever since. So, let’s pick it up after the surge. What happens next?

...

McChrystal: Well, let’s really pick it up before that, because I think it’s important.

We have a tendency in America to view things in very short periods — our year in Iraq, or in my case, five years in Iraq. We tend to come in and say we are going to fight the war to end all wars, at least in our minds.

But for the Iraqi about my age — I’m 71 now — for an Iraqi, it really starts in 1953, when the U.S. and British intelligence services overthrew the constitutionally elected prime minister and put back into power the Peacock Regime of the Shah.

They oppressed the people tremendously, particularly through Savak, the secret police. So, when the Iranian revolution erupts in 1978, we may have been surprised, but the Iranian people were not surprised.

When they suddenly say “death to America,” most Americans are saying, “What’s your problem? Why are you angry at us?”

 

[ding]

Not sure what you point is.

Whatever is happening in that warped mind of yours is best shut down before you end up on more medications

I think his point was that Iranians welcome what we are doing.

 

[Dante]

I think his point was that Iranians welcome what we are doing.

Not all of them. Beware the propaganda of ones side.

Iranians (not all of them) are/were fed up with the Mullahs. That does not mean most of those like the way Trump & co., are treating them.

 

[ding]

Not all of them. Beware the propaganda of ones side.

Iranians (not all of them) are/were fed up with the Mullahs. That does not mean most of those like the way Trump & co., are treating them.

I know what's what. I know propaganda when I see it. We're fighting Israel's war for them. Let's hope starting WWIII was worth it.

 

[alang1216]

I think his point was that Iranians welcome what we are doing.

Most want the mullahs gone but fear a Pyric victory.

 

[Concerned American]

Not sure what you point is.

Whatever is happening in that warped mind of yours is best shut down before you end up on more medications

Maybe you should ease up on yours so that you can keep up with your own posts. I simply informed you that in addition to the fact that many Iranians don't like Hebrews and Christians, there are tens of thousands of Iranians that have been executed because they didn't like the mullahs that are running that country into the ground. Is that clear? If not, please enroll in a remedial English comprehension class.

 

[Dante]

Maybe you should ease up on yours so that you can keep up with your own posts. I simply informed you that in addition to the fact that many Iranians don't like Hebrews and Christians, there are tens of thousands of Iranians that have been executed because they didn't like the mullahs that are running that country into the ground. Is that clear? If not, please enroll in a remedial English comprehension class.

And many more are being executed now because of Israel/Trump and many many more have been told they will be if they dare do anything..

Nice, grant their nation no Mullahs ruling the nation, but at the cost of their lives

 

[ding]

Most want the mullahs gone but fear a Pyric victory.

To be honest I don't really care who runs them. That's their problem.

 

[alang1216]

To be honest I don't really care who runs them. That's their problem.

We made it our problem.

 

[DennisPTate]

Or we could make pragmatic decisions based on Data instead of Bronze Age superstitions.

Do you mean by elected officials in Ottawa, Canada or Washington, D. C?

Do you mean the same ones who promoted the Al Gore Carbon Tax Theory and the Bill Gates' "Innovating to zero" thesis?

Do you mean those same people who told us that the C o v i d 1 9 Tony Fauci vaccines were "safe and effective?"

www.TheyLied.ca/


There is an ancient ISLAMIC prediction for the Last Hour before the Mahdi intervenes in world affairs that could positively boost the economy of the Middle East, [but don't bother holding your breath for Swamp Creatures in either Ottawa or Washington to tell the truth about what could be done so simply and easily.

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)

Will world peace begin with immigrants from many nations who go to Canada and find out ways to address the root causes of the conflicts that were going on in the nations that they left?

I am hopeful that this will be the case, for example, immigrants to Canada from the Middle East may be able to turn the world away from the Al Gore Carbon Tax Theory and the Bill Gates, "Innovation to zero" emissions theory, and instead adopt the more down to earth approach to Climate Change advocated in the Jewish, Islamic and Christian scriptures as well as by a New Mexico biologist and coach.

Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that sounds like a brilliant response to both the threat of rising ocean levels... as well as to the Economic Crisis that it appears some influential people seem to want to occur.


....

... "The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joyand singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the
excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.

....
Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongueof the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out,
and streams in the desert.
And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons,where
each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes." (Isaiah 35 : 1, 2, 6, 7 ).

A New Mexico biologist and coach wrote up an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that fits well with these ancient Islamic and Jewish predictions for the last decades and centuries of human history before our Creator gives us a utopian world where the Holy Spirit is poured out on all flesh.

New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell.....

"So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.

Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated.

The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave.

So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive.

Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds

This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.

Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.

With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.

This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.

Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect


We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time. (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).

 

[hobelim]

I honestly never understand hobelim's theories so I'm a poor judge.

If you want clarification all you have to do is ask and I will tell you the truth in plain language. If not at the very least many who already understand will also finally understand what Jesus meant by saying "No one can come to me unless it has been granted him by the Father."

Thanks!

Seriously...

Whats so hard to understand that Jesus saying eat my flesh was a teaching that kosher law is not about food, that he died trying to teach people that the Law is not to be taken literally?

Whats so hard to understand or believe that the people who destroyed Judea perverted the teachings of Jesus when Rome assimilated Christianity and created the Antichrist in 325ce, a counterfeit substitute Jesus made in the image and likeness of Mithras, the existing secret Babylonian mystery religion of the Roman government and military, the spawn of a trinity.

Is it really so preposterous that fourth century Romans had a vested interest in burying the teaching of Jesus under a mountain of blasphemy upon which the church sits like a dragon?