Zone1 Pray for the Iranian people, many comparisons right now to the Book of Esther.

Yes, you're a real winner! Woo hoo! YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY! Death, a curse.

Enjoy!
That's the exact argument I would expect Satan would make to deceive others from believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ.


 
That's the exact argument I would expect Satan would make to deceive others from believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ.
That is strange. So strange.

Thats exactly what Jesus said about the few who were already deceived by Satan.

"THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD ALREADY!" Would you like to see the chapter and verse?

 
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That is strange. So strange.

Thats exactly what Jesus said about the few who were already deceived by Satan.

"THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD ALREADY!" Would you like to see the chapter and verse?
I already know the chapter and verse. It was said about hypocrites who perform good deeds, pray, or fast publicly to be admired by others. It was not said about those who worship him. Jesus accepted worship by others and never rebuked them for it. You have taken the gospels which made a concerted effort to prove the divinity of Christ and have perverted them to deceive others into believing Jesus was just a man. That's what Satan does. Satan is your god.
 
I already know the chapter and verse. It was said about hypocrites who perform good deeds, pray, or fast publicly to be admired by others.
Exactly!

Thats what you do. That's what Satan has done from the very beginning (of the fairy tale).

You certainly are not trying to convince others that Jesus was one third of a trinity because its true because its not. DUH. You are trying to convince others that you have faith that practicing idolatry is the way to eternal life because you died a very long time ago. He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.
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So now you imagine you're a heroic "defended of the faith" against a contemptible creature.

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Exactly! Thats what you do. That's what Satan has done from the beginning (of the fairy tale).

You certainly are not trying to convince others that Jesus was one third of a trinity because its true because its not. DUH. You are trying to convince others that you have faith that practicing idolatry is the way to eternal life because you died a very very long time ago.

You imagine your are a heroic "defended of the faith" against a contemptible creature.
No. I defeat your deceptions that the Gospels portray Jesus as just a man. The reason you don't accept the trinity is because you don't accept the divinity of Jesus Christ because you pervert the Gospels. Satan is your god and that's why you are at war with Christians. You are not at peace and you don't love God. If you loved God, you would not be at war and you would be at peace.
 
No. I defeat your deceptions that the Gospels portray Jesus as just a man
He was just a man stupid, a Jewish man who did what no other man but the Messiah could do by openly revealing the hidden meaning of the Law, what he learned from God, that was being kept secret by a few, even from Jewish laity, especially from froward men like Jesus.

"I will give you treasures hidden in dark vaults, stored in secret places, so that you will know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel who summons you by name." Isaiah 45:3
 
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He was just a man stupid, a Jewish man who did what no other man but the Messiah could do by openly revealing the hidden meaning of the Law, what he learned from God, that was being kept secret by a few from even Jewish laity, especially from froward men like Jesus.

"I will give you treasures hidden in dark vaults, stored in secret places, so that you will know that I am the Lord, the God of Israel who summons you by name." Isaiah 45:3
Not according to the gospels you routinely butcher and pervert. According to the gospels, Jesus is divine.

Let's ask google AI.

Yes, the Gospels make a concerted, though varied, effort to portray Jesus as divine. John’s Gospel is explicit, presenting Jesus as the pre-existent "Word of God", while the Synoptics (Matthew, Mark, Luke) portray his divinity through actions, miracles, and authority, such as forgiving sins and controlling nature. All four Gospels emphasize his divine identity through his teachings, miracles, and resurrection.
The Gospels do not make a concerted effort to portray Jesus as just a man, but rather as fully human—a distinction that is crucial to the Christian understanding of the incarnation. While emphasizing his human frailties, emotions, and limitations, all four Gospels—Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John—simultaneously present Jesus as having divine authority and a unique relationship with God.

Looks like you lose again. But you keep trying to use scripture to deceive others from worshipping Jesus and I'll keep proving you wrong.
 
According to the gospels, Jesus is divine.
According to "The Tale of a Puppet", Pinocchio became a real boy. Yay! Woo hoo! A miracle! Apparently you never will. Most bats fly out of hell, dingbats fly into it to become a puppet.

Your tale is terrifying deeply disturbing and sad. :crying: Somehow I will try to live with that. lol
 
According to "The Tale of a Puppet", Pinocchio became a real boy. Yay! Woo hoo! A miracle! Apparently you never will. Most bats fly out of hell, dingbats fly into it to become a puppet.

Your tale is terrifying deeply disturbing and sad. :crying: Somehow I will try to live with that. lol

Do you agree with my theory that former Covering Cherub Helel, who fell from heaven, may have inspired Walt Disney, with a story that could soon be compared with a brilliant robot questioning how the world economy and culture, is biased against the "robot ethnic group?"

Even YHWH - HaShem, seems to have been wondering how a former Covering Cherub could make such a colossal error, [or at least that is one possible understanding form how some English language translations are worded]?


12“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.
16“Those who see you will gaze at you,
And consider you, saying:
‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
Who shook kingdoms,
17Who made the world as a wilderness
And destroyed its cities,
Who did not open the house of his prisoners?’
18“All the kings of the nations,
All of them, sleep in glory,
Everyone in his own house;
19But you are cast out of your grave
Like an abominable branch,
Like the garment of those who are slain,
Thrust through with a sword,
Who go down to the stones of the pit,
Like a corpse trodden underfoot.
20You will not be joined with them in burial,
Because you have destroyed your land
And slain your people.




 
Do you agree with my theory that former Covering Cherub Helel, who fell from heaven, may have inspired Walt Disney, with a story that could soon be compared with a brilliant robot questioning how the world economy and culture, is biased against the "robot ethnic group?"

Even YHWH - HaShem, seems to have been wondering how a former Covering Cherub could make such a colossal error, [or at least that is one possible understanding form how some English language translations are worded]?
I can't speak with you about these things in detail here, now, (I am under orders) but I can cite these; If you can do math you will hear it telepathically, with words that make no sound.

“You shall make a mercy seat of pure gold; two and a half cubits shall be its length and a cubit and a half its width. And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work you shall make them at the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub at one end, and the other cherub at the other end; you shall make the cherubim at the two ends of it of one piece with the mercy seat. And lthe cherubim shall stretch out their wings above, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and they shall face one another; the faces of the cherubim shall be toward the mercy seat. You shall put the mercy seat on top of the ark, and in the ark you shall put the Testimony that I will give you. And there I will meet with you, and I will speak with you from above the mercy seat, FROM BETWEEN THE TWO CHERUBIM which are on the ark of the Testimony, about everything which I will give you in commandment to the children of Israel." Exodus 25: 17-

"Then I, Daniel, looked, and two others were standing there, one on this bank of the river and one on the other." (calling out to each other across the river of time) Dan 12:5

"And on either side of the river stood the tree of life." Rev 22:2

“these are the two anointed ones, that attend the Lord of the whole earth” Zech 4:14.

"And I have two witnesses"...Rev 11:3

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Rev 22:13

"So I fattened the flock for slaughter for the dealers and I took my two staves" Zech 11:7


"So he drove the man out, and to the east of Eden he stationed the Cherubim, with a flaming and flashing sword, that turns in every direction to guard the way to the tree of life."
 
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what he learned from God, that was being kept secret
Let's test that, shall we?

Here is google AI's answer to the question, "what did Jesus learn from God that was being kept secret?"

Jesus learned from God the "mystery" of salvation, specifically that the Messiah must suffer, die, and be resurrected to bring salvation to both Jews and Gentiles. This "hidden wisdom" was concealed for ages but revealed through Christ, focusing on the intimate, transformative, and spirit-filled life that empowered his ministry, often shared in private with his disciples.


Key, often-hidden aspects taught to Jesus by God included:
  • The Nature of the Messiah's Suffering: The true path of the Messiah was not political power, but to suffer and enter glory, a concept often hidden to others and unveiled to his followers, for example, on the road to Emmaus.
  • The "Secret" of God's Kingdom: Jesus told his disciples in Mark 4:11 that "the secret of the kingdom of God" was given to them, while others received it in parables, focusing on the internal transformation, as discussed in Catholic Answers.
  • The Importance of Secret Prayer: Jesus learned the necessity of intimate, private communion with the Father to get "recharged" for ministry.
  • The Hidden Wisdom (Christ in You): Paul explains this mystery as "Christ in you, the hope of glory," the wisdom hidden for generations and now revealed to believers.
While some things were purposefully kept "secret" from the public during his ministry, Jesus also proclaimed in Luke 12:2-3 that ultimately "there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known."

Looks like you lose again.
 
According to "The Tale of a Puppet", Pinocchio became a real boy. Yay! Woo hoo! A miracle! Apparently you never will. Most bats fly out of hell, dingbats fly into it to become a puppet.

Your tale is terrifying deeply disturbing and sad. :crying: Somehow I will try to live with that. lol
This sounds like something a person at war would say. If you loved God, you would not be at war, you would be at peace.
 
This "hidden wisdom" was concealed for ages but revealed through Christ, focusing on the intimate, transformative, and spirit-filled life that empowered his ministry, often shared in private with his disciples.
You may not realize this being a believer in the Antichrist but the story of "the Christ" was from the beginning a story only half told to be completed in what was once a distant future.

Loser.
 
I can't speak with you about these things in detail here, now, (I am under orders) but I can cite these; If you can do math you will hear it telepathically, with words that make no sound.

“You shall make a mercy seat of pure gold; two and a half cubits shall be its length and a cubit and a half its width. And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work you shall make them at the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub at one end, and the other cherub at the other end; you shall make the cherubim at the two ends of it of one piece with the mercy seat. And lthe cherubim shall stretch out their wings above, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and they shall face one another; the faces of the cherubim shall be toward the mercy seat. You shall put the mercy seat on top of the ark, and in the ark you shall put the Testimony that I will give you. And there I will meet with you, and I will speak with you from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim which are on the ark of the Testimony, about everything which I will give you in commandment to the children of Israel." Exodus 25: 17-

"Then I, Daniel, looked, and two others were standing there, one on this bank of the river and one on the other." (calling out to each other across the river of time) Dan 12:5

"And on either side of the river stood the tree of life." Rev 22:2

“these are the two anointed ones, that attend the Lord of the whole earth” Zech 4:14.

"And I have two witnesses"...Rev 11:3

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Rev 22:13

"So I fattened the flock for slaughter for the dealers and I took my two staves" Zech 11:7


"So he drove the man out, and to the east of Eden he stationed the Cherubim, with a flaming and flashing sword, that turns in every direction to guard the way to the tree of life."
According to Christian theology, Satan actively deceives people into not worshipping Jesus by distorting scripture, promoting false doctrines, and using worldly distractions. Common tactics include challenging the deity of Jesus, presenting worldly desires as superior to worship, and using false teachers to create counterfeits of Christianity.
  • Subtle Deception: Satan is described as disguising himself as an "angel of light" to mislead even dedicated believers away from sincere devotion to Christ.
  • False Christs: Scripture warns of the end-times appearance of false prophets to lead people away from the true Jesus.
  • Distraction and Misinformation: Deception often involves making worship appear burdensome or highlighting worldly beauty to distract from spiritual life.
  • Denying Jesus's Nature: A primary goal is inducing people to believe that Jesus is not God or that he did not come in the flesh.
Ultimately, the goal of this deception is to turn worship away from God and toward worldly things or the adversary himself.
 
You may not realize this being a believer in the Antichrist but the story of "the Christ" was from the beginning a story only half told to be completed in what was once a distant future.

Loser.
According to 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 you are the anti-Christ for using deception to lead people away from Jesus Christ which you will be condemned for if you don't repent.

Jesus learned from God the "mystery" of salvation, specifically that the Messiah must suffer, die, and be resurrected to bring salvation to both Jews and Gentiles. This "hidden wisdom" was concealed for ages but revealed through Christ, focusing on the intimate, transformative, and spirit-filled life that empowered his ministry, often shared in private with his disciples.
 
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You may not realize this being a believer in the Antichrist but the story of "the Christ" was from the beginning a story only half told to be completed in what was once a distant future.

Loser.
The mystery of salvation is the profound, once-hidden divine plan—now revealed in Jesus Christ—to redeem humanity and unify all things in heaven and earth. It centers on the Paschal Mystery (Christ’s passion, death, resurrection, and ascension), offering grace, forgiveness, and transformation from sin to new life.

Key aspects of this mystery include:
  • Revealed in Christ: The mystery is not just a plan, but a person: Jesus Christ. It refers to the incarnation, where the Son of God became human to save humanity.
  • A "Mystery" Revealed: In the New Testament, "mystery" implies something formerly hidden but now revealed by the Holy Spirit, specifically that Gentiles are fellow heirs and partakers of the promise.
  • The Paschal Mystery: The core of this plan is the Paschal Mystery, which demonstrates that new life comes from death, and meaning is found in the suffering and resurrection of Jesus.
  • Union with God: Salvation is not merely a legal pardon, but an inner transformation in which believers are united with God and conformed to the image of Christ through grace.
  • The Role of the Church: The Church, through the liturgy and sacraments (especially baptism and the Eucharist), makes this saving sacrifice present to believers today.
The mystery of salvation is also a "great mystery" in how God, in His mercy, uses this process to move humans from a state of sin to a state of holiness, transforming them into citizens of the kingdom of God.
 
The mystery of salvation is also a "great mystery" in how God, in His mercy, uses this process to move humans from a state of sin to a state of holiness, transforming them into citizens of the kingdom of God.
Rev. 22:15, states after Jesus returns and God wipes away every tear and there is no more death, a curse, people like you will remain outside the gates of the city, "For outside are dogs, sorcerers, idolators, fornicators, and everyone who only loves and practices deceit."

So tell me, how is practicing idolatry, a sin, moving from a state of sin to a state of holiness?

Take your time....
 
Rev. 22:15, states after Jesus returns and God wipes away every tear and there is no more death, a curse, people like you will remain outside the gates of the city, "For outside are dogs, sorcerers, idolators, fornicators, and everyone who only loves and practices deceit."

So tell me, how is practicing idolatry, a sin, moving from a state of sin to a state of holiness?

Take your time....
Revelation 22:15 is describing non-believers like yourself. Because according to Jesus in John 5:24 I already have eternal life and will not be judged. You on the other hand will be judged and according to 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 you will be condemned for deceiving others and leading them away from Jesus.

Key Interpretations:
  • Non-believers (Traditional View): The verse contrasts the "blessed" (v. 14) who enter the city with those who are not saved—whose names are not in the Book of Life and are in the lake of fire.
  • Context of Judgment: The list (dogs, sorcerers, murderers) describes individuals excluded from God's presence, highlighting the contrast between the righteous community and those who rejected the salvation of Jesus.
 
Context of Judgment: The list (dogs, sorcerers, idolators, murderers) describes individuals excluded from God's presence, highlighting the contrast between the righteous community and those who rejected the salvation of Jesus.
Exactly! You reject the salvation of Jesus who taught the only right way to understand the figurative words and hidden subjects of the Law by not acting on his words but instead you worship the Antichrist, a false substitute counterfeit ascetic Jesus, with all the powerful "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally, the spawn of a false Roman trinity.

Every time you celebrate at mass the death of Jesus, an innocent man, you're practicing the "perfect human sacrifice" of the Jewish Messiah on the Mithran cross to a Roman trinity.

Shithead.

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In fact everyone crucified on the Mithran cross was a human sacrifice to a Roman trinity.

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