Are you saying that God's gift of grace to the Israelites is the Anti-Christ?
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Are you saying that God's gift of grace to the Israelites is the Anti-Christ?
Wow. If that’s what you got out of what I said all that I can say is wow.
And some people don’t believe that practicing idolatry because they ate the flesh of talking serpents who said they would not die but would receive eternal life, the forbidden fruit, results in death, a curse.
Imagine that!
The bronze Serpent that Moses raised on the stick was a gift from God to the Israelites, no?
How is it considered an Idol if God instructed Moses to tell the Israelites to put their eyes on it so that they may be cured?
The Israelites would violate the first commandment if they did not do what God instructed, yes?
This happened during the time of testing in the wilderness.
They violated the first Commandment by turning to the lifeless work of human hands for healing.
It was a test that no one passed for generations until Hezekiah was born and destroyed the object of idolatry.
If Hezekiah was alive today, he would destroy the antichrist, your false counterfeit Jesus, the spawn of a Trinity, so would Jesus for that matter which is exactly what he has been predicted to do when he returns like a thief in the night.
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It never states it was a test - if anything, "the testing" part would have been after God sent serpents that bit and began to kill them - to see if they would repent of rejecting the Manna from heaven or if they would continue to be stubborn and look to other God's for support.
They passed the test because they repented - and their reward was the restoration of God's Grace when they were healed of their wounds by gazing on the Bronze Serpent.
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Is that the same Moses who did not even exist in the earliest versions of the Torah.
So the authorities invented a Super Hero to appeal to the Munchers .
They, as it were , invented a Charlton Heston for Ratings .
You're welcome. It is great advice.
Doesn't the same logic apply to your belief that Jesus is the messiah that Israel was looking for? Because according to your beliefs that prophecy failed. According to the Christian belief that prophecy succeeded.
Christians are quite happy. We celebrate the resurrection of Christ. It's you that has been cursed with unhappiness.
I commune with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit everyday. You do not. So when you meet your maker, you won't be lipping off.
According to John 5:24 I already have eternal life. According to John 5:24 you will be judged. And according to 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 you will be condemned. Of course you could always repent. So you might want to take that great advice I offered.
Sure you do, in your unrestrained imagination...
lol.... I have been intimately acquainted with my Maker ever since I can remember. Thats why an army of talking serpents, like poor pitiful you, have had absolutely no effect on me.
I have no need to be forgiven for anything. I always do exactly as my God commands.
If you had eternal life you would rather be crucified upside down than to blow down and worship the antichrist, your false counterfeit ascetic Jesus, the spawn of a roman trinity, who was crucified on the Mithran cross as "a perfect human sacrifice", the Jewish messiah, to Mithras.
You advise that I should get on my knees, admit to being a worthless piece of sinning shit, beg God to forgive me for being human, and accept the Antichrist as my God and savior?
What a guy! And some people don't believe in talking serpents talking donkeys or devils.
Imagine that!
Anyway thanks, but I'll take a hard pass on that. I would rather be drawn and quartered.
At this rate, if it didn’t already happen, all of Israel will be convinced that Jesus was right, not the antichrist your mangod, but Jesus the wild and crazy froward Jewish man of no account, thanks to your generosity in demonstrating the deeply disturbing and terrifying death, a curse, for failing to heed the simple and easy to fulfill instruction to not eat the defiling and contaminating flesh of vile and loathsome unclean creatures that do not ruminate. Like you.
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In reality. Are you saying you don't?
Your previous comment says otherwise. Not to mention this comment as well. If you were telling someone about your relationship with the Creator, you would describe that relationship. You wouldn't talk about what doesn't have an effect on you. You would talk about what does have an effect on you. You're a fake and everyone who posts here knows it.
That's as suspicious as four different eyewitness accounts of an event reciting the exact same account verbatim. In other words, it's fake; it's concocted, made up, not true.
Incorrect. Eternal life is best observed as peace through the storm. There is no peace in you, only war. Look at the words you are writing. You're upset and everyone who reads your posts can see how upset you are.
Are you hard of reading? Thats a shame.
Listen up! I am not given to fantasy and so I would never let my imagination become so unrestrained by actual reality that I couldn't tell the difference between one God, my God, and a Roman Mithraic trinity that became a sacrificial supernatural mangod that does not correspond to any real living being ever in existence. Your faith is just mental masturbation.
You should've listened to the Nuns who said you would go blind if you didn't stop jerking off.
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Read the gospels. Jesus isn't the anti-Christ.
He certainly is.
Jesus responds:
Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for yourselves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light.
It did happen. The evidence is overwhelming.
Incorrect. You are never going to get 100% agreement on anything. But some have converted.
Jesus responds:
Why are you persecuting me?
I read what you wrote just fine. I can only assume you don't have a relationship with God if you don't believe others can't have a relationship with God.
There's only one God. He doesn't care what name we use. He only cares that we use it. You are making ridiculous arguments that only go to prove you don't believe in any god.
These are not the words of someone who is at peace. These are the words of someone who is at war. Is your god the god of war?
I worship Jesus. The same as the apostles worshipped Jesus. The same as all Christians worship Jesus. It's you who rejects Jesus, and according to 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12, you will be condemned for trying to deceive others into not worshipping Jesus.
According to Christian theology, Satan actively deceives people into not worshipping Jesus by distorting scripture, promoting false doctrines, and using worldly distractions. Common tactics include challenging the deity of Jesus, presenting worldly desires as superior to worship, and using false teachers to create counterfeits of Christianity.
- Subtle Deception: Satan is described as disguising himself as an "angel of light" to mislead even dedicated believers away from sincere devotion to Christ.
- False Christs: Scripture warns of the end-times appearance of false prophets to lead people away from the true Jesus.
- Distraction and Misinformation: Deception often involves making worship appear burdensome or highlighting worldly beauty to distract from spiritual life.
- Denying Jesus's Nature: A primary goal is inducing people to believe that Jesus is not God or that he did not come in the flesh.
Oh stop with the scurrilous drama queen shit already. That was just me poking fun at you.
My God has a sense of humor.
Is your god the god of war?
Is Satan your god? Satan actively deceives people into not worshipping Jesus by distorting scripture and promoting false doctrines like you are trying to do.
Incorrect. God instructed Moses to make a bronze snake (Numbers 21:4–9) as a divine remedy for Israelites dying from "fiery serpents" sent as judgment for their rebellion. Anyone bitten who looked at the bronze serpent on the pole was healed, serving as a lesson in repentance, trust in God, and a direct precursor to Jesus being lifted up on the cross for salvation.
Key Reasons for the Bronze Snake:
- A Test of Faith and Obedience:The snake provided a way for the Israelites to stop complaining and look toward God's promise, trusting that this act of faith—looking at a bronze image—would lead to healing.
- Symbol of Sin and Judgment: The snake was chosen to be a direct reflection of their sin, forcing them to look at the cause of their death to receive life. It was a "serpent without poison," representing the curse they were under but which did not actually kill them.
- Physical Deliverance/Antidote: It was the designated antidote for the poisonous snake bites brought by God.
- Typology of Jesus Christ: In John 3:14-15, Jesus says, “Just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life.” The event prefigures the crucifixion, where looking at the cross brings spiritual salvation.
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