Toddsterpatriot
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Breaking News: Ding repeals the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.
Power the U.S. With Solar Panels!
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Breaking News: Ding repeals the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.
Old Rocks
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Sure as hell you don't Ding. Electrical energy gets converted either into heat directly, home heating, stoves, dryers, or mechanical energy with get gets converted into heat via friction, ect. You just keep digging the hole deeper with this highly erroneous line of illogic.
Old Rocks
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Gotta love it when you take things out of context. Here is the whole thing;Enough to be measured.
Impact of solar panels on global climate
This study considers how large-scale application of solar panels will affect climate. Electricity generation leads to regional cooling but this is countered by the power's use, affecting global circulation patterns with changes in regional rainfall.ui.adsabs.harvard.edu
Giant desert solar farms might have unintended climate consequences | Trellis
Turning deserts into solar energy farms could raise temperatures across the globe and cause devastating droughts in the Amazon.www.greenbiz.com
"Regardless of the harmful effects of burning fossil fuels on global climate, other energy sources will become more important in the future because fossil fuels could run out by the early twenty-second century given the present rate of consumption. This implies that sooner or later humanity will rely heavily on renewable energy sources. Here we model the effects of an idealized large-scale application of renewable energy on global and regional climate relative to a background climate of the representative concentration pathway 2.6 scenario (RCP2.6; ref. ). We find that solar panels alone induce regional cooling by converting incoming solar energy to electricity in comparison to the climate without solar panels. The conversion of this electricity to heat, primarily in urban areas, increases regional and global temperatures which compensate the cooling effect. However, there are consequences involved with these processes that modulate the global atmospheric circulation, resulting in changes in regional precipitation"
Impact of solar panels on global climate
This study considers how large-scale application of solar panels will affect climate. Electricity generation leads to regional cooling but this is countered by the power's use, affecting global circulation patterns with changes in regional rainfall.
ui.adsabs.harvard.edu
Any solar radiation that is converted into electricity is solar radiation which does not warm the surface of the planet. The net effect is an effective reduction in solar radiation.Gotta love it when you take things out of context. Here is the whole thing;
"Regardless of the harmful effects of burning fossil fuels on global climate, other energy sources will become more important in the future because fossil fuels could run out by the early twenty-second century given the present rate of consumption. This implies that sooner or later humanity will rely heavily on renewable energy sources. Here we model the effects of an idealized large-scale application of renewable energy on global and regional climate relative to a background climate of the representative concentration pathway 2.6 scenario (RCP2.6; ref. ). We find that solar panels alone induce regional cooling by converting incoming solar energy to electricity in comparison to the climate without solar panels. The conversion of this electricity to heat, primarily in urban areas, increases regional and global temperatures which compensate the cooling effect. However, there are consequences involved with these processes that modulate the global atmospheric circulation, resulting in changes in regional precipitation"
Impact of solar panels on global climate
This study considers how large-scale application of solar panels will affect climate. Electricity generation leads to regional cooling but this is countered by the power's use, affecting global circulation patterns with changes in regional rainfall.
Most uses of electricity is converted into kinetic or potential energy not heat.
All other energy sources that are used to generate electricity do not capture solar radiation that would have warmed the surface of the planet. So from a budget standpoint that supposed energy conservation is already added to the system without reducing solar radiation that warms the surface of the planet.
Anything which converts electricity into kinetic or potential energy. Examples would be my air conditioning system and garage door opener.
Blues Man
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So once again you refuse to admit that if you want 500MW of electricity from solar power in AZ that you have to install over 2000 MW of rated capacity.
Blues Man
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How much power is needed in MW to run the entire country?
In 2020 we produced about 4000 KW hours of electricity
To get all that from solar we would have to install enough solar panels to produce more than 16000 KW hours.
So how much of that will your little solar array in AZ produce and how are you going to scale that up to meet the expeonentially increased demand if we move to a 100% fossil fuel free electric society?
Toddsterpatriot
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Toddsterpatriot
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Your air conditioning system doesn't warm the environment around your home?
Post your secret.
Never said that, dummy.
The heat list does not heat the surface of the planet, dummy.
What heat that is lost, which is maybe 10%, doesn't heat the surface of the planet, dummy.
How long have you believed using electricity causes global warming?
Toddsterpatriot
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There's no back radiation from it.
Why won't you admit that you believe ALL electricity that is used heats the planet? Cause we generate a lot of electricity that does not reduce solar radiation heating the surface of the planet. So in the case where all electricity is generated from solar, that case would have a net reduction in the earth's heat budget.
Next time send me a bigger one.
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iamwhatiseem
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Large solar power grids, currently, is a pipe dream. Ridiculously unrealistic.
What IS realistic, is each individual home has it's own system.
Currently it is far too expensive with high cost to maintain. But that would lower significantly if mass produced.
What IS realistic, is each individual home has it's own system.
Currently it is far too expensive with high cost to maintain. But that would lower significantly if mass produced.
Toddsterpatriot
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There's no back radiation from it.
No back radiation from your air conditioner warming your neighborhood?
If you say so. How does that help your claim?
Why won't you admit that you believe ALL electricity that is used heats the planet?
Entropy increases. You're an engineer, you should understand.
So in the case where all electricity is generated from solar, that case would have a net reduction in the earth's heat budget.
If only you had posted 3 sources that agreed with your claim.
I mean, come on, you have to see the humor in the fact that they all disagreed with you.
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