Portland kidnappers are LE or military?

The chaos these assholes are causing in Portland doesn't serve anyone but Americans who want communism, ie. Democrats. Anything bad that happens to those people is fine with me. They're depriving Americans of their freedom and liberty. **** antifa and BLM.

When was this ever about communism or depriving Americans of their freedom and liberty? These protesters are protesting the denial of freedom and liberty. That's why they are there. It's the "conservatives" who attack the freedom and liberty of their fellow Americans on the basis of skin color, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. Stop attacking your fellow Americans.
Don't play duh with this board Lysis. The Democrat Party is going through the motions of begetting chaos on account of the temper tantrums the nation clearly saw when Hillary Clinton was given a pink slip by voters in America and her opponent, President Trump won. Instead of letting power transfer peacefully, Obama, Biden, Clinton, Waters, Pelosi, and other sleazebag Sociocommunist Deep Staters in the Democrat Party conspired to initiate an illegal and a traitorous coup on President Trump, by making his life hell on earth with their evil, anti-American, United States Constitution-destroying Democrat attitudes, and they used a highly compromised FBI and other agencies to do it, and needless to say, Hillary Clinton authored the pee and prostitutes scurrilous defamation against President Trump well after he'd taken his oath of office.

Why Hillary Clinton isn't on trial for treason is something I would like to know the whys and wherefores of. She used FBI files for everything she did, except for her creative calumnies performed by her and her minions against the man who defeated her sorry ass for President.

Guess the Democrats are angry and feel like beating up America with BLM murders masquerading as civil rights protests. I'd like to see those damn traitors in jail. What a sorry thing that a former First Lady who was too high and mighty to bake cookies in the White House decided to launch a crime wave against President Trump.

I hate the vile groupies that are carrying out their Democrat sociocommunist leaders tell them to do and add their own little touches like murdering little children with wild shooting out of passing cars in drive by shootings. I hope each and every child murderer is apprehended and gets the chair. I hope the FBI does their real job and cleans out the deep state evil doers who cause others to riot and kill people. They're bad apples, rotten to the core.
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote so your post is moot.
 
No, it is not ok, Gracie.
Uh, yes, it is ok. Loot, riot, destroy, attack...you get hauled off. Period.
We have never needed or used Secret Police/Gestapo before, why do we need them now?
Because we are not what we used to be. Things have changed. Which means enforcement is being changed too. NONE of this would be necessary if this was not still going on months later. Won't change tomorrow either. But maybe..just maybe...some idiots will go home and stfu.
You are making excuses for Trump creating a Gestapo in America. These are not officers from your community who are identified and following laws. These are secret unidentified persons of unknown character and qualifications. More banana republic crap.
I hope they are waterboarding or skinning al few of them scums.
Writing of "waterboarding," when is Hannity going to be "waterboarded," he did offer.........
 
I hope the ones who killed other protesters and children in their drive-bys are captured and get life in prison. If the stupid mayor is one that lets prisoners out of jail quickly, they might as well give the killers the chair.
My idea; Use a gun in the commission of any crime....automatic federal death penalty.
 
I hope the ones who killed other protesters and children in their drive-bys are captured and get life in prison. If the stupid mayor is one that lets prisoners out of jail quickly, they might as well give the killers the chair.
My idea; Use a gun in the commission of any crime....automatic federal death penalty.
So long as self-defense is not a crime.
 
No, it is not ok, Gracie.
Uh, yes, it is ok. Loot, riot, destroy, attack...you get hauled off. Period.
We have never needed or used Secret Police/Gestapo before, why do we need them now?
Because we are not what we used to be. Things have changed. Which means enforcement is being changed too. NONE of this would be necessary if this was not still going on months later. Won't change tomorrow either. But maybe..just maybe...some idiots will go home and stfu.
You are making excuses for Trump creating a Gestapo in America. These are not officers from your community who are identified and following laws. These are secret unidentified persons of unknown character and qualifications. More banana republic crap.
I hope they are waterboarding or skinning al few of them scums.
Writing of "waterboarding," when is Hannity going to be "waterboarded," he did offer.........
He may have already had the experience.
 
Big to do over on Twatter. All riled up about how awful it is that men and women in unidentible uniforms (camoflage) are "kidnapping" some "innocent" "protesters" and taking them to unknown areas and lots of boo hooing and omg's and "this is illegal" and much hand wringing along with great scalding tears.

Cities are being destroyed, "protesters" are dragging people from their cars, attacking LE, burning, looting stores and in general are domestic terrorists and now they are crying because someone is finally doing something (homeland security?) to make them stop their bullshit by doing to them far less than what they have been doing since that asshole Floyd died.

Personally, I am thrilled it's being done and hope it continues in every state that has a dem governor and mayor who have done NOTHING to protect innocent civilians while the terrorists terrorize. Seems dems are against being stopped by scarey guys in camo.

What are your thoughts about it?

Here is a link to browse:


One such tweet of many by the sobbing masses who WANT the terrorizing to continue because its "peaceful protesting". *eye roll*

“.Usually, when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street, we call it kidnapping. The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered.” [ACLU]
As our government turns into a reiteration of the USSR including it’s murderous secret police, some Americans think this wonderful. How is this possible?


If it turns out the people being dragged off, are being murdered, I will admit that is very wrong and Trump needs impeached and charged. OK?
In other words, you’re okay with people being kidnapped by government thugs as long as they aren’t murdered. Lol.


YOu said murder. I agreed with you that if that is what is occurring, that would be terrible and I would join you in demanding it stop and the people responsible being held accountable. (i assume that is what you would want)



Odd, that my agreeing with you and offering to side with you and offering you complete support and admitting I was wrong and you were right,


does not satisfy you.


Instead, you walk it back. Almost like you knew when you said it, that "murder" is not what is going on....


So, why did you say it then?
So you are okay with kidnapping?
Is that what Border Patrol does?
Is that right? The US border patrol is kidnapping people? Portland isn’t on the border and it’s people aren’t illegal.


You stupid ******* commie, BP agents are sworn law enforcement officers, they can enforce any federal law and detain people for violations of State or local law.

.

Why are they not identified and stand with honor in front of the public? let's see the badges. Let's see the people detained. This all must take place in front of everybody. No secrecy. This is America. Come clean.


It's for their safety you stupid shit, identifiable cops are being attacked with lasers, bricks and frozen water bottles.

.

this cannot go on in our nation. Stand and identify yourself. This is the US, not some ******* banana republic. These people have crossed a line that should never, ever be crossed in the United States of America.


The mayor of the city has ordered his cops to stand down, while mobs attack federal buildings.


Your pretense that the feds are the problem is ******* retarded, and not fooling anyone.

There is no pretense The people who did this must be FULLY IDENTIFIED and produce the people whom they have taken prisoner. They must stand in front of the American People. Why can't you identify yourself? We must be honest and not secretive here. This is America. These people seem to be trump's thugs. A full investigation must take place.
so hauling a violent criminal off to jail is now kidnapping ! unbelievable !
The people arrested by these criminals have not even been produced. we don't even know who the arrested are, but we do know that Portland was subjected to a criminal invasion by the feds. Let trump stand trial of this.


ROFLMFAO

So commie, why don't you tell us how many unusual missing persons reports have been filed in Portland. Come on commie, stop flapping your gums and provide some evidence that the crap you're spewing has some basis in reality. I'm very sure the reason you keep ignoring demands for evidence is you don't ******* have any.

.

What is this "commie" shit??? This isn't a thread about economics, numbnuts. The people who have been detained must be produced along with all documentation about their arrests, including the names of the arresting officers. That's not "flapping my gums." This is the way the criminal justice system works. Their cases probably will be thrown out, given the circumstances. We will see when the documentation comes in. Just wearing a badge that says "police" doesn't cut it. No amount of ignorant name-calling by you changes anything. BTW: We already have the evidence. These guys were videotaped.


We will see when the documentation comes in. Then you people will pretend to not remember your hysterical rant of today and move on to your next fit of hysteria,


with the only point to maintain in the media, the pretense of...something, to distract the voters from Trump's record and the absolute bat shit crazy that your party has become.

You seem to be woefully unaware of both the U.S. Constitution and how the criminal justice system works. The court cases stemming from this fiasco will be interesting, as well as the hearings that will have to take place on the Hill and in the Oregon State House. trump's record in office is absolutely awful. He will go into the history books as the worst president the U.S. has ever had.


Is this crime? Or is this open insurrection?

Mostly peaceful protests. Neither the state nor the local government invited any of trump's storm-troopers to Portland and have stated that this goons are unwelcome. Moreover, nothing is known about how these goons operated. Inside the law? Or outside of it. Their methods must be scrutinized and questions answered.how

Tell me how that Navy man can find out the name of the thug who beat him, as he has quite a lawsuit in his now-damaged hands. This is the United States, not North Korea. trump must be stopped because we don't believe in dictators. What can state government do to prevent trump's goons from entering another state? Have the state police stop every van coming into the state and question the occupants? This is serious. trump has stepped way over the line and is acting as un-American as any president ever had in the past.
 
Big to do over on Twatter. All riled up about how awful it is that men and women in unidentible uniforms (camoflage) are "kidnapping" some "innocent" "protesters" and taking them to unknown areas and lots of boo hooing and omg's and "this is illegal" and much hand wringing along with great scalding tears.

Cities are being destroyed, "protesters" are dragging people from their cars, attacking LE, burning, looting stores and in general are domestic terrorists and now they are crying because someone is finally doing something (homeland security?) to make them stop their bullshit by doing to them far less than what they have been doing since that asshole Floyd died.

Personally, I am thrilled it's being done and hope it continues in every state that has a dem governor and mayor who have done NOTHING to protect innocent civilians while the terrorists terrorize. Seems dems are against being stopped by scarey guys in camo.

What are your thoughts about it?

Here is a link to browse:


One such tweet of many by the sobbing masses who WANT the terrorizing to continue because its "peaceful protesting". *eye roll*

“.Usually, when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street, we call it kidnapping. The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered.” [ACLU]
As our government turns into a reiteration of the USSR including it’s murderous secret police, some Americans think this wonderful. How is this possible?


If it turns out the people being dragged off, are being murdered, I will admit that is very wrong and Trump needs impeached and charged. OK?
In other words, you’re okay with people being kidnapped by government thugs as long as they aren’t murdered. Lol.


YOu said murder. I agreed with you that if that is what is occurring, that would be terrible and I would join you in demanding it stop and the people responsible being held accountable. (i assume that is what you would want)



Odd, that my agreeing with you and offering to side with you and offering you complete support and admitting I was wrong and you were right,


does not satisfy you.


Instead, you walk it back. Almost like you knew when you said it, that "murder" is not what is going on....


So, why did you say it then?
So you are okay with kidnapping?
Is that what Border Patrol does?
Is that right? The US border patrol is kidnapping people? Portland isn’t on the border and it’s people aren’t illegal.


You stupid ******* commie, BP agents are sworn law enforcement officers, they can enforce any federal law and detain people for violations of State or local law.

.

Why are they not identified and stand with honor in front of the public? let's see the badges. Let's see the people detained. This all must take place in front of everybody. No secrecy. This is America. Come clean.


It's for their safety you stupid shit, identifiable cops are being attacked with lasers, bricks and frozen water bottles.

.

this cannot go on in our nation. Stand and identify yourself. This is the US, not some ******* banana republic. These people have crossed a line that should never, ever be crossed in the United States of America.


The mayor of the city has ordered his cops to stand down, while mobs attack federal buildings.


Your pretense that the feds are the problem is ******* retarded, and not fooling anyone.

There is no pretense The people who did this must be FULLY IDENTIFIED and produce the people whom they have taken prisoner. They must stand in front of the American People. Why can't you identify yourself? We must be honest and not secretive here. This is America. These people seem to be trump's thugs. A full investigation must take place.
so hauling a violent criminal off to jail is now kidnapping ! unbelievable !
The people arrested by these criminals have not even been produced. we don't even know who the arrested are, but we do know that Portland was subjected to a criminal invasion by the feds. Let trump stand trial of this.


ROFLMFAO

So commie, why don't you tell us how many unusual missing persons reports have been filed in Portland. Come on commie, stop flapping your gums and provide some evidence that the crap you're spewing has some basis in reality. I'm very sure the reason you keep ignoring demands for evidence is you don't ******* have any.

.

What is this "commie" shit??? This isn't a thread about economics, numbnuts. The people who have been detained must be produced along with all documentation about their arrests, including the names of the arresting officers. That's not "flapping my gums." This is the way the criminal justice system works. Their cases probably will be thrown out, given the circumstances. We will see when the documentation comes in. Just wearing a badge that says "police" doesn't cut it. No amount of ignorant name-calling by you changes anything. BTW: We already have the evidence. These guys were videotaped.


We will see when the documentation comes in. Then you people will pretend to not remember your hysterical rant of today and move on to your next fit of hysteria,


with the only point to maintain in the media, the pretense of...something, to distract the voters from Trump's record and the absolute bat shit crazy that your party has become.

You seem to be woefully unaware of both the U.S. Constitution and how the criminal justice system works. The court cases stemming from this fiasco will be interesting, as well as the hearings that will have to take place on the Hill and in the Oregon State House. trump's record in office is absolutely awful. He will go into the history books as the worst president the U.S. has ever had.


Is this crime? Or is this open insurrection?

Mostly peaceful protests. Neither the state nor the local government invited any of trump's storm-troopers to Portland and have stated that this goons are unwelcome. Moreover, nothing is known about how these goons operated. Inside the law? Or outside of it. Their methods must be scrutinized and questions answered.how
....


If the local government is siding with the violent mob, and is refusing to enforce the law or citizens civil rights,

their invitation is not needed. They are part of the problem.


Your support of this is noted.
 
It's amazing how when finally society has had enough, and action starts to be taken, then you see all these cries of tears by the leftist (hating to see the party ended), over society finally taking back the streets from murderers, arsonist, thieves, and anarchist.

Society has had enough of Trump's incompetence, and we will take our country back from him.

But you keep crying over broken statues, buddy.
Take it back eh ???

Well get to taking JoeB.

I thought not.... LOL
 
Big to do over on Twatter. All riled up about how awful it is that men and women in unidentible uniforms (camoflage) are "kidnapping" some "innocent" "protesters" and taking them to unknown areas and lots of boo hooing and omg's and "this is illegal" and much hand wringing along with great scalding tears.

Cities are being destroyed, "protesters" are dragging people from their cars, attacking LE, burning, looting stores and in general are domestic terrorists and now they are crying because someone is finally doing something (homeland security?) to make them stop their bullshit by doing to them far less than what they have been doing since that asshole Floyd died.

Personally, I am thrilled it's being done and hope it continues in every state that has a dem governor and mayor who have done NOTHING to protect innocent civilians while the terrorists terrorize. Seems dems are against being stopped by scarey guys in camo.

What are your thoughts about it?

Here is a link to browse:


One such tweet of many by the sobbing masses who WANT the terrorizing to continue because its "peaceful protesting". *eye roll*

“.Usually, when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street, we call it kidnapping. The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered.” [ACLU]
As our government turns into a reiteration of the USSR including it’s murderous secret police, some Americans think this wonderful. How is this possible?


If it turns out the people being dragged off, are being murdered, I will admit that is very wrong and Trump needs impeached and charged. OK?
In other words, you’re okay with people being kidnapped by government thugs as long as they aren’t murdered. Lol.


YOu said murder. I agreed with you that if that is what is occurring, that would be terrible and I would join you in demanding it stop and the people responsible being held accountable. (i assume that is what you would want)



Odd, that my agreeing with you and offering to side with you and offering you complete support and admitting I was wrong and you were right,


does not satisfy you.


Instead, you walk it back. Almost like you knew when you said it, that "murder" is not what is going on....


So, why did you say it then?
So you are okay with kidnapping?
Is that what Border Patrol does?
Is that right? The US border patrol is kidnapping people? Portland isn’t on the border and it’s people aren’t illegal.


You stupid ******* commie, BP agents are sworn law enforcement officers, they can enforce any federal law and detain people for violations of State or local law.

.

Why are they not identified and stand with honor in front of the public? let's see the badges. Let's see the people detained. This all must take place in front of everybody. No secrecy. This is America. Come clean.


It's for their safety you stupid shit, identifiable cops are being attacked with lasers, bricks and frozen water bottles.

.

this cannot go on in our nation. Stand and identify yourself. This is the US, not some ******* banana republic. These people have crossed a line that should never, ever be crossed in the United States of America.


The mayor of the city has ordered his cops to stand down, while mobs attack federal buildings.


Your pretense that the feds are the problem is ******* retarded, and not fooling anyone.

There is no pretense The people who did this must be FULLY IDENTIFIED and produce the people whom they have taken prisoner. They must stand in front of the American People. Why can't you identify yourself? We must be honest and not secretive here. This is America. These people seem to be trump's thugs. A full investigation must take place.
so hauling a violent criminal off to jail is now kidnapping ! unbelievable !
The people arrested by these criminals have not even been produced. we don't even know who the arrested are, but we do know that Portland was subjected to a criminal invasion by the feds. Let trump stand trial of this.


ROFLMFAO

So commie, why don't you tell us how many unusual missing persons reports have been filed in Portland. Come on commie, stop flapping your gums and provide some evidence that the crap you're spewing has some basis in reality. I'm very sure the reason you keep ignoring demands for evidence is you don't ******* have any.

.

What is this "commie" shit??? This isn't a thread about economics, numbnuts. The people who have been detained must be produced along with all documentation about their arrests, including the names of the arresting officers. That's not "flapping my gums." This is the way the criminal justice system works. Their cases probably will be thrown out, given the circumstances. We will see when the documentation comes in. Just wearing a badge that says "police" doesn't cut it. No amount of ignorant name-calling by you changes anything. BTW: We already have the evidence. These guys were videotaped.


We will see when the documentation comes in. Then you people will pretend to not remember your hysterical rant of today and move on to your next fit of hysteria,


with the only point to maintain in the media, the pretense of...something, to distract the voters from Trump's record and the absolute bat shit crazy that your party has become.

You seem to be woefully unaware of both the U.S. Constitution and how the criminal justice system works. The court cases stemming from this fiasco will be interesting, as well as the hearings that will have to take place on the Hill and in the Oregon State House. trump's record in office is absolutely awful. He will go into the history books as the worst president the U.S. has ever had.


Is this crime? Or is this open insurrection?

Mostly peaceful protests. Neither the state nor the local government invited any of trump's storm-troopers to Portland and have stated that this goons are unwelcome. Moreover, nothing is known about how these goons operated. Inside the law? Or outside of it. Their methods must be scrutinized and questions answered.how

Tell me how that Navy man can find out the name of the thug who beat him, as he has quite a lawsuit in his now-damaged hands. This is the United States, not North Korea. trump must be stopped because we don't believe in dictators. What can state government do to prevent trump's goons from entering another state? Have the state police stop every van coming into the state and question the occupants? This is serious. trump has stepped way over the line and is acting as un-American as any president ever had in the past.
State officials should be arrested after their inaction, and their underminng of Law Enforcement, and their allowing total anarchy in their states These things swell up and threaten the Union eventually, and that's when it becomes federal.
 
Big to do over on Twatter. All riled up about how awful it is that men and women in unidentible uniforms (camoflage) are "kidnapping" some "innocent" "protesters" and taking them to unknown areas and lots of boo hooing and omg's and "this is illegal" and much hand wringing along with great scalding tears.

Cities are being destroyed, "protesters" are dragging people from their cars, attacking LE, burning, looting stores and in general are domestic terrorists and now they are crying because someone is finally doing something (homeland security?) to make them stop their bullshit by doing to them far less than what they have been doing since that asshole Floyd died.

Personally, I am thrilled it's being done and hope it continues in every state that has a dem governor and mayor who have done NOTHING to protect innocent civilians while the terrorists terrorize. Seems dems are against being stopped by scarey guys in camo.

What are your thoughts about it?

Here is a link to browse:


One such tweet of many by the sobbing masses who WANT the terrorizing to continue because its "peaceful protesting". *eye roll*

“.Usually, when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street, we call it kidnapping. The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered.” [ACLU]
As our government turns into a reiteration of the USSR including it’s murderous secret police, some Americans think this wonderful. How is this possible?


If it turns out the people being dragged off, are being murdered, I will admit that is very wrong and Trump needs impeached and charged. OK?
In other words, you’re okay with people being kidnapped by government thugs as long as they aren’t murdered. Lol.


YOu said murder. I agreed with you that if that is what is occurring, that would be terrible and I would join you in demanding it stop and the people responsible being held accountable. (i assume that is what you would want)



Odd, that my agreeing with you and offering to side with you and offering you complete support and admitting I was wrong and you were right,


does not satisfy you.


Instead, you walk it back. Almost like you knew when you said it, that "murder" is not what is going on....


So, why did you say it then?
So you are okay with kidnapping?
Is that what Border Patrol does?
Is that right? The US border patrol is kidnapping people? Portland isn’t on the border and it’s people aren’t illegal.


You stupid ******* commie, BP agents are sworn law enforcement officers, they can enforce any federal law and detain people for violations of State or local law.

.

Why are they not identified and stand with honor in front of the public? let's see the badges. Let's see the people detained. This all must take place in front of everybody. No secrecy. This is America. Come clean.


It's for their safety you stupid shit, identifiable cops are being attacked with lasers, bricks and frozen water bottles.

.

this cannot go on in our nation. Stand and identify yourself. This is the US, not some ******* banana republic. These people have crossed a line that should never, ever be crossed in the United States of America.


The mayor of the city has ordered his cops to stand down, while mobs attack federal buildings.


Your pretense that the feds are the problem is ******* retarded, and not fooling anyone.

There is no pretense The people who did this must be FULLY IDENTIFIED and produce the people whom they have taken prisoner. They must stand in front of the American People. Why can't you identify yourself? We must be honest and not secretive here. This is America. These people seem to be trump's thugs. A full investigation must take place.
so hauling a violent criminal off to jail is now kidnapping ! unbelievable !
The people arrested by these criminals have not even been produced. we don't even know who the arrested are, but we do know that Portland was subjected to a criminal invasion by the feds. Let trump stand trial of this.


ROFLMFAO

So commie, why don't you tell us how many unusual missing persons reports have been filed in Portland. Come on commie, stop flapping your gums and provide some evidence that the crap you're spewing has some basis in reality. I'm very sure the reason you keep ignoring demands for evidence is you don't ******* have any.

.

What is this "commie" shit??? This isn't a thread about economics, numbnuts. The people who have been detained must be produced along with all documentation about their arrests, including the names of the arresting officers. That's not "flapping my gums." This is the way the criminal justice system works. Their cases probably will be thrown out, given the circumstances. We will see when the documentation comes in. Just wearing a badge that says "police" doesn't cut it. No amount of ignorant name-calling by you changes anything. BTW: We already have the evidence. These guys were videotaped.


We will see when the documentation comes in. Then you people will pretend to not remember your hysterical rant of today and move on to your next fit of hysteria,


with the only point to maintain in the media, the pretense of...something, to distract the voters from Trump's record and the absolute bat shit crazy that your party has become.

You seem to be woefully unaware of both the U.S. Constitution and how the criminal justice system works. The court cases stemming from this fiasco will be interesting, as well as the hearings that will have to take place on the Hill and in the Oregon State House. trump's record in office is absolutely awful. He will go into the history books as the worst president the U.S. has ever had.


Is this crime? Or is this open insurrection?

Mostly peaceful protests. Neither the state nor the local government invited any of trump's storm-troopers to Portland and have stated that this goons are unwelcome. Moreover, nothing is known about how these goons operated. Inside the law? Or outside of it. Their methods must be scrutinized and questions answered.how

Tell me how that Navy man can find out the name of the thug who beat him, as he has quite a lawsuit in his now-damaged hands. This is the United States, not North Korea. trump must be stopped because we don't believe in dictators. What can state government do to prevent trump's goons from entering another state? Have the state police stop every van coming into the state and question the occupants? This is serious. trump has stepped way over the line and is acting as un-American as any president ever had in the past.
Trump appears to think he can win votes with his stormtroopers. He’s a law and order potus, after all. It does seem to be a strategy that works on cons.
 
Big to do over on Twatter. All riled up about how awful it is that men and women in unidentible uniforms (camoflage) are "kidnapping" some "innocent" "protesters" and taking them to unknown areas and lots of boo hooing and omg's and "this is illegal" and much hand wringing along with great scalding tears.

Cities are being destroyed, "protesters" are dragging people from their cars, attacking LE, burning, looting stores and in general are domestic terrorists and now they are crying because someone is finally doing something (homeland security?) to make them stop their bullshit by doing to them far less than what they have been doing since that asshole Floyd died.

Personally, I am thrilled it's being done and hope it continues in every state that has a dem governor and mayor who have done NOTHING to protect innocent civilians while the terrorists terrorize. Seems dems are against being stopped by scarey guys in camo.

What are your thoughts about it?

Here is a link to browse:


One such tweet of many by the sobbing masses who WANT the terrorizing to continue because its "peaceful protesting". *eye roll*

“.Usually, when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street, we call it kidnapping. The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered.” [ACLU]
As our government turns into a reiteration of the USSR including it’s murderous secret police, some Americans think this wonderful. How is this possible?


If it turns out the people being dragged off, are being murdered, I will admit that is very wrong and Trump needs impeached and charged. OK?
In other words, you’re okay with people being kidnapped by government thugs as long as they aren’t murdered. Lol.


YOu said murder. I agreed with you that if that is what is occurring, that would be terrible and I would join you in demanding it stop and the people responsible being held accountable. (i assume that is what you would want)



Odd, that my agreeing with you and offering to side with you and offering you complete support and admitting I was wrong and you were right,


does not satisfy you.


Instead, you walk it back. Almost like you knew when you said it, that "murder" is not what is going on....


So, why did you say it then?
So you are okay with kidnapping?
Is that what Border Patrol does?
Is that right? The US border patrol is kidnapping people? Portland isn’t on the border and it’s people aren’t illegal.


You stupid ******* commie, BP agents are sworn law enforcement officers, they can enforce any federal law and detain people for violations of State or local law.

.

Why are they not identified and stand with honor in front of the public? let's see the badges. Let's see the people detained. This all must take place in front of everybody. No secrecy. This is America. Come clean.


It's for their safety you stupid shit, identifiable cops are being attacked with lasers, bricks and frozen water bottles.

.

this cannot go on in our nation. Stand and identify yourself. This is the US, not some ******* banana republic. These people have crossed a line that should never, ever be crossed in the United States of America.


The mayor of the city has ordered his cops to stand down, while mobs attack federal buildings.


Your pretense that the feds are the problem is ******* retarded, and not fooling anyone.

There is no pretense The people who did this must be FULLY IDENTIFIED and produce the people whom they have taken prisoner. They must stand in front of the American People. Why can't you identify yourself? We must be honest and not secretive here. This is America. These people seem to be trump's thugs. A full investigation must take place.
so hauling a violent criminal off to jail is now kidnapping ! unbelievable !
The people arrested by these criminals have not even been produced. we don't even know who the arrested are, but we do know that Portland was subjected to a criminal invasion by the feds. Let trump stand trial of this.


ROFLMFAO

So commie, why don't you tell us how many unusual missing persons reports have been filed in Portland. Come on commie, stop flapping your gums and provide some evidence that the crap you're spewing has some basis in reality. I'm very sure the reason you keep ignoring demands for evidence is you don't ******* have any.

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What is this "commie" shit??? This isn't a thread about economics, numbnuts. The people who have been detained must be produced along with all documentation about their arrests, including the names of the arresting officers. That's not "flapping my gums." This is the way the criminal justice system works. Their cases probably will be thrown out, given the circumstances. We will see when the documentation comes in. Just wearing a badge that says "police" doesn't cut it. No amount of ignorant name-calling by you changes anything. BTW: We already have the evidence. These guys were videotaped.


We will see when the documentation comes in. Then you people will pretend to not remember your hysterical rant of today and move on to your next fit of hysteria,


with the only point to maintain in the media, the pretense of...something, to distract the voters from Trump's record and the absolute bat shit crazy that your party has become.

You seem to be woefully unaware of both the U.S. Constitution and how the criminal justice system works. The court cases stemming from this fiasco will be interesting, as well as the hearings that will have to take place on the Hill and in the Oregon State House. trump's record in office is absolutely awful. He will go into the history books as the worst president the U.S. has ever had.


Is this crime? Or is this open insurrection?

Mostly peaceful protests. Neither the state nor the local government invited any of trump's storm-troopers to Portland and have stated that this goons are unwelcome. Moreover, nothing is known about how these goons operated. Inside the law? Or outside of it. Their methods must be scrutinized and questions answered.how

Tell me how that Navy man can find out the name of the thug who beat him, as he has quite a lawsuit in his now-damaged hands. This is the United States, not North Korea. trump must be stopped because we don't believe in dictators. What can state government do to prevent trump's goons from entering another state? Have the state police stop every van coming into the state and question the occupants? This is serious. trump has stepped way over the line and is acting as un-American as any president ever had in the past.
Trump appears to think he can win votes with his stormtroopers. He’s a law and order potus, after all. It does seem to be a strategy that works on cons.


The mobs are killing people. THat generally is not popular with people.
 
lol but not identifying and discriminating against sexual deviants is a left wing platform
Not a laughing matter. Street women and ladies of the court are ardently demanding various enhancements of a secret, highly proprietary, extra-legal, and arbitrary "sex offender registration" system without the due process of law in order to cover "LGBT" and individuals not previously considered criminals, simply because they have refused the "services" offered by such females.
Over the weekend rioters broke into the Portland Police Association building and set it on fire, as demonstrations over the death of George Floyd intensified for another night, according to Portland Police.
We're starting to get to the heart of the matter here. At least somebody is finally getting around to busting that damned police union already. Those poor working-class beat cops on the job can't even afford their own collective bargaining affairs building maintenance. Is there a Democratic Party boiler room somewhere downtown? And the cops are looking all over the place for the proper crew of licensed union boilermakers, plumbers, and electricians to make building reparations.
 
I hope the ones who killed other protesters and children in their drive-bys are captured and get life in prison. If the stupid mayor is one that lets prisoners out of jail quickly, they might as well give the killers the chair.
My idea; Use a gun in the commission of any crime....automatic federal death penalty.
My Idea--Loot--Death Penalty.
 
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Big to do over on Twatter. All riled up about how awful it is that men and women in unidentible uniforms (camoflage) are "kidnapping" some "innocent" "protesters" and taking them to unknown areas and lots of boo hooing and omg's and "this is illegal" and much hand wringing along with great scalding tears.

Cities are being destroyed, "protesters" are dragging people from their cars, attacking LE, burning, looting stores and in general are domestic terrorists and now they are crying because someone is finally doing something (homeland security?) to make them stop their bullshit by doing to them far less than what they have been doing since that asshole Floyd died.

Personally, I am thrilled it's being done and hope it continues in every state that has a dem governor and mayor who have done NOTHING to protect innocent civilians while the terrorists terrorize. Seems dems are against being stopped by scarey guys in camo.

What are your thoughts about it?

Here is a link to browse:


One such tweet of many by the sobbing masses who WANT the terrorizing to continue because its "peaceful protesting". *eye roll*

“.Usually, when we see people in unmarked cars forcibly grab someone off the street, we call it kidnapping. The actions of the militarized federal officers are flat-out unconstitutional and will not go unanswered.” [ACLU]
As our government turns into a reiteration of the USSR including it’s murderous secret police, some Americans think this wonderful. How is this possible?


If it turns out the people being dragged off, are being murdered, I will admit that is very wrong and Trump needs impeached and charged. OK?
In other words, you’re okay with people being kidnapped by government thugs as long as they aren’t murdered. Lol.


YOu said murder. I agreed with you that if that is what is occurring, that would be terrible and I would join you in demanding it stop and the people responsible being held accountable. (i assume that is what you would want)



Odd, that my agreeing with you and offering to side with you and offering you complete support and admitting I was wrong and you were right,


does not satisfy you.


Instead, you walk it back. Almost like you knew when you said it, that "murder" is not what is going on....


So, why did you say it then?
So you are okay with kidnapping?
Is that what Border Patrol does?
Is that right? The US border patrol is kidnapping people? Portland isn’t on the border and it’s people aren’t illegal.


You stupid ******* commie, BP agents are sworn law enforcement officers, they can enforce any federal law and detain people for violations of State or local law.

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Why are they not identified and stand with honor in front of the public? let's see the badges. Let's see the people detained. This all must take place in front of everybody. No secrecy. This is America. Come clean.


It's for their safety you stupid shit, identifiable cops are being attacked with lasers, bricks and frozen water bottles.

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this cannot go on in our nation. Stand and identify yourself. This is the US, not some ******* banana republic. These people have crossed a line that should never, ever be crossed in the United States of America.


The mayor of the city has ordered his cops to stand down, while mobs attack federal buildings.


Your pretense that the feds are the problem is ******* retarded, and not fooling anyone.

There is no pretense The people who did this must be FULLY IDENTIFIED and produce the people whom they have taken prisoner. They must stand in front of the American People. Why can't you identify yourself? We must be honest and not secretive here. This is America. These people seem to be trump's thugs. A full investigation must take place.
so hauling a violent criminal off to jail is now kidnapping ! unbelievable !
The people arrested by these criminals have not even been produced. we don't even know who the arrested are, but we do know that Portland was subjected to a criminal invasion by the feds. Let trump stand trial of this.


ROFLMFAO

So commie, why don't you tell us how many unusual missing persons reports have been filed in Portland. Come on commie, stop flapping your gums and provide some evidence that the crap you're spewing has some basis in reality. I'm very sure the reason you keep ignoring demands for evidence is you don't ******* have any.

.

What is this "commie" shit??? This isn't a thread about economics, numbnuts. The people who have been detained must be produced along with all documentation about their arrests, including the names of the arresting officers. That's not "flapping my gums." This is the way the criminal justice system works. Their cases probably will be thrown out, given the circumstances. We will see when the documentation comes in. Just wearing a badge that says "police" doesn't cut it. No amount of ignorant name-calling by you changes anything. BTW: We already have the evidence. These guys were videotaped.


We will see when the documentation comes in. Then you people will pretend to not remember your hysterical rant of today and move on to your next fit of hysteria,


with the only point to maintain in the media, the pretense of...something, to distract the voters from Trump's record and the absolute bat shit crazy that your party has become.

You seem to be woefully unaware of both the U.S. Constitution and how the criminal justice system works. The court cases stemming from this fiasco will be interesting, as well as the hearings that will have to take place on the Hill and in the Oregon State House. trump's record in office is absolutely awful. He will go into the history books as the worst president the U.S. has ever had.


Is this crime? Or is this open insurrection?

Mostly peaceful protests. Neither the state nor the local government invited any of trump's storm-troopers to Portland and have stated that this goons are unwelcome. Moreover, nothing is known about how these goons operated. Inside the law? Or outside of it. Their methods must be scrutinized and questions answered.how

Tell me how that Navy man can find out the name of the thug who beat him, as he has quite a lawsuit in his now-damaged hands. This is the United States, not North Korea. trump must be stopped because we don't believe in dictators. What can state government do to prevent trump's goons from entering another state? Have the state police stop every van coming into the state and question the occupants? This is serious. trump has stepped way over the line and is acting as un-American as any president ever had in the past.
Trump appears to think he can win votes with his stormtroopers. He’s a law and order potus, after all. It does seem to be a strategy that works on cons.
Works on any law abiding citizen... No one, and I mean no one likes anarchy or lawlessness. Come November you lefties will learn that the hard way.
 
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It never has been.

[OnePercenter is responding to the query as to whether or not self-defense is legal.

What the couple did was legal. Trying to railroad them in some sort of trial by media is big time wrong. Charges for what ??? It's time to truly arrest and put on trial the real enemies of this nation. Trump has played around to much, and it's time to take this nation back, and to arrest anyone who was violently protesting, supporting violent protestor's from any official position's, and show just how weak and dispicable they are once remove them from their positions of fake power they've surrounded themselves with. It's all a sham, and it's time to call them on it.

The Nuremberg trials were a classic example of breaking down rogue powers that had built themselves up without the blessings of their nation behind them. Watching the surprise on their faces when they were sentenced was priceless, because they had placed themselves as god's over their nation until the illusion was removed. The people of Germany couldn't believe how bad they were duped by these evil human beings, and us not learning the patterns or the traits found in it all, purdy much has left us to actually experience it ourselves if not wise or careful.

Biden is the most race baiting dangerous candidate imaginable, but here we are about to possibly screw this nation over badly if we don't do the right thing come November.
 
I hope the ones who killed other protesters and children in their drive-bys are captured and get life in prison. If the stupid mayor is one that lets prisoners out of jail quickly, they might as well give the killers the chair.
My idea; Use a gun in the commission of any crime....automatic federal death penalty.
My Idea--Loot--Death Penalty.
Nah, give them the worst imaginable - hard labor in a factory making Chinese wages or Mexican wages only. This way they can see what work truly is, and then realize how bad others have it when they THOUGHT they had it worse. No more free stuff, it's time to work now.
 
My idea; Use a gun in the commission of any crime....automatic federal death penalty.
Anyone who uses a gun in the commission of a crime should expect return fire.
So long as self-defense is not a crime.
And if you use a gun for self-defense, chances are you are already being fired upon, and you should still expect return fire.

It's a use of force. Morality and law cannot dictate the final outcome.
 
I'm for law and order as much as the next conservative, but public safety and security are supposed to be the domain of the state and local agencies. The federal gov't isn't supposed to get involved unless the situation rises above what the state and local people can handle, which isn't the case in Portland. Yet. So where is the constitutional authority for DHS or any other federal agency to grab evildoers off the street? Seems to me that if the governor, mayor, and every other asshole democrat in Oregon wants to let this shit go on and on then so be it, let Portland burn. Ditto Chicago, New York and every other shithole city run by progressive democrats were this shit is ongoing.

Long story short, the feds have no business intervening and should GTFO. With the understanding that Portland and other cities ain't getting federal FEMA money or any other federal tax-dollars to rebuild due to their own malfeasance. **** that, if you let it burn then you pay for it your ownself.

NOW - all that changes if Biden wins and the Dems take the Senate and keep the House. All of which is on the table and could happen. Which means that with other issues this election in November is a really big deal, and I don't think the word "DISASTER" is over the top.


The feds are protecting federal property, and they have every right to do so when the locals won't. It's just that simple.

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