Pornography

[shockedcanadian]

Porn is a time.waster from the boredom of life for most men. Admiration of the female body is real, in a respectful manner. Hell when I was younger I even liked mens bodies in muscle mags, never felt an urge to.kiss a.guy lol. Violent stuff and other outlier fetishes is for outcasts for the most part I presume. Generally those.with low self esteem or who are feminine men themselves. I am confident like most men, if I so chose, I could meet a lady tomorrow, carry on a deep conversation about life and even, gulp, make love once in awhile. The one danger to the irresponsible and pecu!iar is in the young who see porn as their only source of potential of seeing a woman naked. I've been watching porn since reading my dads Hustler and Playboy mag subscription, in addition to his own VHS stash though I dont watch it habitually at all. I could sesrch for it right now or not watch any for the next five years and life would be unchanged. It's all about ones control and interests. Don't make it a habit one can't control, dont draw outside the lines in an unhealthy manner, and, dont live in a fantasy world. Porn is just like going to a strip club, women are there to make cash, none of itis real. I do agree, age limits need to be set.

Remind me:

Who are you?

He's the porn guy. Whatever you need, he has it.

 

[Midnight FM]

Porn is a time.waster from the boredom of life for most men. Admiration of the female body is real, in a respectful manner. Hell when I was younger I even liked mens bodies in muscle mags, never felt an urge to.kiss a.guy lol. Violent stuff and other outlier fetishes is for outcasts for the most part I presume. Generally those.with low self esteem or who are feminine men themselves. I am confident like most men, if I so chose, I could meet a lady tomorrow, carry on a deep conversation about life and even, gulp, make love once in awhile. The one danger to the irresponsible and pecu!iar is in the young who see porn as their only source of potential of seeing a woman naked. I've been watching porn since reading my dads Hustler and Playboy mag subscription, in addition to his own VHS stash. I could sesrch for it right now or not watch any.for te next five years.and life would be normal. It's all about ones control.and interests. Don't make it a habit one can't control,.dont draw outside the lines in an unhealthy manner, and, dont live in a.fantasy world. Porn is just like going to a strip club, women are there to make cash, none of itis real. I do agree, age limits need to be set.

Fair enough. I'm not assuming that the average porn consumer is an addict or incel. Regardless, I believe there are still issues which are going to come up regarding the porn industry in general, such as the availability of porn to children on the internet, or the ethical issues surrounding the production of pornography. But since this is a widely-debated issue, it's hard to know where to start.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

As far as I can tell, if people can get their fantasies without having to resort to actually hurting someone for real, then it helps reduce crime.

I think in the modern world, there needs to be something done about children accessing things on the internet. At some point some kind of internet ID scheme will have to be implemented.

Do you think it’s a net positive though for pornography to be banned. That way men and women would be forced to go out into the real world and meet each other.

 

[scruffy]

No, Danielle is Debbie's daughter.

Does mom.participate, or is she just watching?

How about Epstein, was he there?

 

[airplanemechanic]

That's a slippery slope. That makes me think of someone saying that pedophiles should have access to child porn so that they will be less likely to molest children "IRL".

This is actually being studied.

I would support it, I guess, if the "children" in the images and videos was AI and no real kids were hurt. I mean if the pedo hasn't committed a crime, that doesn't make him "not a pedo" or "not a threat to kids" but you can't simply lock up someone because you think they might do something. So this person is a free man/woman with urges towards children and no way to release the urges. To me, that puts REAL kids at risk.

I don't know. It's a really weird situation.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Does mom.participate, or is she just watching?

How about Epstein, was he there?

I think the Don was. He was being peed on. It's in the sequel "Danielle pees on Don in Dallas."

 

[Midnight FM]

This is actually being studied.

I would support it, I guess, if the "children" in the images and videos was AI and no real kids were hurt. I mean if the pedo hasn't committed a crime, that doesn't make him "not a pedo" or "not a threat to kids" but you can't simply lock up someone because you think they might do something. So this person is a free man/woman with urges towards children and no way to release the urges. To me, that puts REAL kids at risk.

I don't know. It's a really weird situation.

Basically, this is a slippery slope toward arguing that people are "born pedophiles" or that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation" like homosexuality. Groups like NAMBLA would love this.

To my knowledge, even animated or AI content which potentially depicts children, regardless of whether or not any "real children" are used in its production can be illegal depending on the laws in question.

If a person has "urges" which could be directed at children, they're obligated to keep them repressed, just as if someone has an "urge" to murder someone. Not very complicated to me.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Fair enough. I'm not assuming that the average porn consumer is an addict or incel. Regardless, I believe there are still issues which are going to come up regarding the porn industry in general, such as the availability of porn to children on the internet, or the ethical issues surrounding the production of pornography. But since this is a widely-debated issue, it's hard to know where to start.

Kids dont need to be watching that garbage. Adults don't need to be either but like smoking or drinking, they make their own choices. Its as old as civilization iitself. Everyone has a vice or their form of entertainment, I just hope.very few are addicted. Hell, I read years ago that some CIA agents were spending cash in Columbia or Venezuela on hookers when stationed there. Now THAT is a problem when you are in national.security. They'd be better served watching porn, less of a security risk. Ive watched it a few times with ex gfs too,.was never abnormal or uncomfortable. part of being human i suppose. Just as most men still admire beauty when walking down the street. As long.as one isnt a.creep its normal, it's how G-d wired us.

 

[braalian]

Kids dont need to be watching that garbage.

So be a parent and do some parenting

 

[airplanemechanic]

Basically, this is a slippery slope toward arguing that people are "born pedophiles" or that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation" like homosexuality. Groups like NAMBLA would love this.

To my knowledge, even animated or AI content which potentially depicts children, regardless of whether or not any "real children" are used in its production can be illegal depending on the laws in question.

If a person has "urges" which could be directed at children, they're obligated to keep them repressed, just as if someone has an "urge" to murder someone. Not very complicated to me.

Oh its a very slippery slope that I'm not claiming to have any answers for. Yes, AI child porn is illegal. I'm not saying its legal or should be. I'm just kinda throwing ideas out there.

 

[Midnight FM]

So be a parent and do some parenting

Not sure what to say. I think that if people were selling crack or heron outside an elementary school, then the issue would go beyond simply putting the burn entirely on the parents to tell the children "not to buy it".

 

[shockedcanadian]

So be a parent and do some parenting

That's like.telling parents tto control what they do at school. It:s not easy. To prevent kids.from.seeking out information, theynare.far smarter than you might give them credit for. If they aren't, older peers will influence them.

 

[braalian]

That's like.telling parents tto control what they do at school. It:s not easy. To prevent kids.from.seeking out information, theynare.far smarter than you might give them credit for. If they aren't, older peers will influence them.

Which has been the case every generation since the dawn of humanity.

The only way to keep your kid from being influenced by other kids, pop culture, school etc. is to hone school them and prevent them from interacting with the general public.

And those kids turn out weird and awkward as ****

 

[shockedcanadian]

Which has been the case every generation since the dawn of humanity.

The only way to keep your kid from being influenced by other kids, pop culture, school etc. is to hone school them and prevent them from interacting with the general public.

And those kids turn out weird and awkward as ****

Not to spread virtriol, but didn't you just defy your earlier argument?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

This is my view on the current state of pornography:

1. Most people who consume porn are casual consumers, not hardcore addicts in the vein of incels, Chris Chan, and the like. As is likely the case with the consumption of alcohol, drugs, and other substances. While I'm concerned that internet pornography enables the existence of individuals like Chris Chan, these type of individuals have severe psychological problems that go beyond porn consumption.

2. I believe that violent pornography (as with other violent media such as TV, films, and video games) can influence psychologically disturbed people to engage in violence, however, the average person merely having access to such things isn't likely to engage in violence. The internet has likewise made available other content which potentially fosters violence, such as extremist social media (e.x. Neo-Nazi websites).

3. I'm aware that pornography, as well as violent and sexually deviant behavior has always been around and is well-documented throughout history (such as in the case of the violent or sexually immoral behavior documented in the Biblical Old Testament). Some people have a romanticized view of certain times in the past, and assume it was perfect and idyllic.

Regardless, I don't think one could argue that the internet has made access to pornography, including pornography which contains more extreme and disturbing kinks and fetishes more readily available to people than it was in the past, and I think we can safely assume that porn companies aren't concerned about the welfare of children who have access to it anymore than cigarette companies are. In the past, one had to physically travel to an X-rated store to purchase pornography. Today, one can access it, including the more extreme varieties, in seconds, and this isn't even counting the illegal content (e.x. child pornography) which can be accessed fairly easily on the Dark Net using special software.

Therefore, I would definitely be in favor of legislation which makes it harder to access pornography via the internet, especially for children. Though I'm aware that determined consumers will likely find relatively easy ways to bypass this (just as in the case of individuals who view child pornography on the Dark Net). I'm unsure what the ramifications of an outright ban on pornography (or other adult-oriented services and industries) would be, but I'm aware that black markets for pornography would exist, just as they always have (such as how Islamic countries like Pakistan have been reported to have thriving underground markets for gay pornography).

I pretty much disagree with everything you stand for. Impressive. I believe you'll dig the hole for yourself even deeper.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That's a slippery slope. That makes me think of someone saying that pedophiles should have access to child porn so that they will be less likely to molest children "IRL".

(As far as that issue is concerned, I don't believe anyone is "born a pedophile", and arguing that people are sounds like what groups such as NAMBLA would do in order to paint pedophilia as a "sexual orientation" like homosexuality, and I would merely argue that people are obligated to keep such "urges" repressed).

Doesn't really work like that. Child porn is illegal for other reasons. Like, children can't consent to it all.

 

[OKTexas]

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