Porn: Ok or Not, a Discussion

[Delta4Embassy]

Stay on topic please. Are 3 groups for argueing to your hearts content.

 

[koshergrl]

Without sourcing or quoting, explain with just what's inside your head your feelings on porn. Is it ok, not ok? Why not? Etc. I'm curious what people think about it, not what they can google and quote.

No. It's a sin, Delta. You should not even permit such lusts in your heart much less your mind - nor should you be acting on them. You either discipline yourself and be ruled your spirit (in submission to Holy Spirit - be led by the Spirit of God and you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh or your flesh and emotions will rule you. In order to do that you must be born again and submit yourself to God.

So would it be fair to characterize your opposition as being entirely religious in nature? "It's sinful, thus not okay?"

So you maintain that sin is a good thing?

Murder? Adultery? Thievery?

Are we supposed to approve of and embrace sin?

 

[September]

For Adults it is OK, tho certain types are not. Kiddie Porn, animal porn, or porn where any one gets hurt is not ok IMO.

I disagree.

Some of the most exciting porn involves people getting hurt. Whether its some incredible BDSM scene or some really rough anal, lol, a hentai tentacle monster attacking some sweet innocent victim, or some girl getting stretched by some huge black cock... pain is good for porn.

Pain is good for sex. Why do you think women prefer a big penis to a tiny one? We're fuckin' masochists. Some of us more than others.

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[September]

Porn exploits, abuses and demeans women and children. That's the beginning and end of it.

There is plenty of porn where men are the ones being abused, demeaned and exploited.

Femdom, pegging, a great deal of BDSM, etc...
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[Freemason9]

In general:

The more you like porn, the worse it is for you. Frequent porn consumption is very similar to drug abuse.

 

[ChrisL]

In general:

The more you like porn, the worse it is for you. Frequent porn consumption is very similar to drug abuse.

No it isn't, I can stop anytime I want!

But seriously, do you think so? I don't know. There aren't going to be any physical side effects or getting sick when you go cold turkey from porn. Lol.

I've heard of couples who enjoy watching porn together. What's wrong with that? I'm fine with it as long as all parties involved are adults.

 

[koshergrl]

And how do you deal with the fact that the *actors* that are being viewed are being manipulated, drugged, abused by the hot shots in an industry that really doesn't care if they're underaged, or diseased, or not?
Does that give you a woody, too?

 

[September]

And how do you deal with the fact that the *actors* that are being viewed are being manipulated, drugged, abused by the hot shots in an industry that really doesn't care if they're underaged, or diseased, or not?
Does that give you a woody, too?

Masochism
1 : a sexual perversion characterized by pleasure in being subjected to pain or humiliation especially by a love object 2 : pleasure in being abused or dominated : a taste for suffering
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[Roadrunner]

Without sourcing or quoting, explain with just what's inside your head your feelings on porn. Is it ok, not ok? Why not? Etc. I'm curious what people think about it, not what they can google and quote.

I am a Libertarian; what people do or watch is not my business.

That said, it is a sleazy industry built on exploitation.

 

[Katzndogz]

Porn exploits, abuses and demeans women and children. That's the beginning and end of it.

Porn may exploit, abuse and demean children. I wouldn't go so far as to extend it to the women. Women consider porn a way to make a lot of money without working at it. Women who do porn are no different than any model. Models have it much worse than porn actresses. Porn actresses can at least eat. Models have been known to swallow cotton puffs moistened with a bit of orange juice just to make the pain of hunger go away.

 

[September]

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[koshergrl]

"The porn films are not about sex. Sex is airbrushed and digitally washed out of the films. There is no acting because none of the women are permitted to have what amounts to a personality.

"The one emotion they are allowed to display is an unquenchable desire to satisfy men, especially if that desire involves the women’s physical and emotional degradation."

"Roldan, like many of the women who drift into the porn and prostitution industry, had a difficult and troubled childhood, including a physically abusive mother. Her mother threw her out of her home when she was 17, and she spent time in homeless shelters. She answered an ad in LA Weekly that offered women $1,000 as models. This is a common doorway into the porn industry. She started appearing in Internet porn. She had a boyfriend when she began filming and tells me she “felt guilty” about hiding her porn sessions from him, but the money was good. Her boyfriend eventually found out, and their relationship descended into one increasingly characterized by verbal and physical abuse. She drifted from the Internet into films. She was 19 when she made her first film."

"She had been promised $1,000 for her first film. She was handed $600 when the scene was done. She also contracted gonorrhea. Porn stars are tested for HIV and sexually transmitted diseases once a month, but “people do so many scenes between tests that a month is a long time.” She began, once she had treated her gonorrhea, to do films three or four times a month. She would have several more bouts with gonorrhea and other sexually transmitted diseases during her career. She got pregnant and had an abortion. The demands on her began to escalate. She was filmed with multiple partners. Her scenes became “extremely rough. They would pull my hair, slap me around like a rag doll.

“The next day my whole body would ache,” she recalls. “It happened a lot, the aching. It used to be that only a few stars, people like Linda Lovelace, would once do things like anal. Now it is expected.”

Yeah, porn's a healthy, good thing.

You bet. It empowers women.

Chris Hedges The Victims of Pornography - Book Excerpt -Truthdig

 

[koshergrl]

"Girls bring in their friends and get kickbacks. They feel like stars. They get attention. It’s all about the spotlight. It’s all about me. They have notoriety. They don’t realize the degradation. Besides, this is a whole generation raised on porn. They’re jaded and don’t even ask if it is wrong. They fall into it. They get into drugs to numb themselves. They get their asses ripped. Their uterus hemorrhages. They get HPV and herpes, and they turn themselves off emotionally and die. They check out mentally. They get PTSD like Vietnam vets. They don’t know who they are. They live a life of shopping and drugs. They don’t buy real estate. They party, and in the end they have nothing to show for it except, like me, genital herpes and fake boobs.”

Chris Hedges The Victims of Pornography - Book Excerpt -Truthdig

 

[Syriusly]

Without sourcing or quoting, explain with just what's inside your head your feelings on porn. Is it ok, not ok? Why not? Etc. I'm curious what people think about it, not what they can google and quote.

I think porn is a potentially addicting activity- much like gambling- that most adults partake in at some point in their lives.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

"The porn films are not about sex. Sex is airbrushed and digitally washed out of the films. There is no acting because none of the women are permitted to have what amounts to a personality.

"The one emotion they are allowed to display is an unquenchable desire to satisfy men, especially if that desire involves the women’s physical and emotional degradation."

"Roldan, like many of the women who drift into the porn and prostitution industry, had a difficult and troubled childhood, including a physically abusive mother. Her mother threw her out of her home when she was 17, and she spent time in homeless shelters. She answered an ad in LA Weekly that offered women $1,000 as models. This is a common doorway into the porn industry. She started appearing in Internet porn. She had a boyfriend when she began filming and tells me she “felt guilty” about hiding her porn sessions from him, but the money was good. Her boyfriend eventually found out, and their relationship descended into one increasingly characterized by verbal and physical abuse. She drifted from the Internet into films. She was 19 when she made her first film."

"She had been promised $1,000 for her first film. She was handed $600 when the scene was done. She also contracted gonorrhea. Porn stars are tested for HIV and sexually transmitted diseases once a month, but “people do so many scenes between tests that a month is a long time.” She began, once she had treated her gonorrhea, to do films three or four times a month. She would have several more bouts with gonorrhea and other sexually transmitted diseases during her career. She got pregnant and had an abortion. The demands on her began to escalate. She was filmed with multiple partners. Her scenes became “extremely rough. They would pull my hair, slap me around like a rag doll.

“The next day my whole body would ache,” she recalls. “It happened a lot, the aching. It used to be that only a few stars, people like Linda Lovelace, would once do things like anal. Now it is expected.”

Yeah, porn's a healthy, good thing.

You bet. It empowers women.

Chris Hedges The Victims of Pornography - Book Excerpt -Truthdig

As I said in the OP, not asking for quotes. Can get those myself, can't get what's inside your heads.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm on the fence. If a woman wants to engage in porn for money and she is an adult, I'm fine with it.

My concern is with the obvious coercion used in Eastern Europe that essentially reduces young women to sex slaves. The porn industry in the USA is of no interest to me, but the offshore exploitation is a concern.

 

[koshergrl]

"The porn films are not about sex. Sex is airbrushed and digitally washed out of the films. There is no acting because none of the women are permitted to have what amounts to a personality.

"The one emotion they are allowed to display is an unquenchable desire to satisfy men, especially if that desire involves the women’s physical and emotional degradation."

"Roldan, like many of the women who drift into the porn and prostitution industry, had a difficult and troubled childhood, including a physically abusive mother. Her mother threw her out of her home when she was 17, and she spent time in homeless shelters. She answered an ad in LA Weekly that offered women $1,000 as models. This is a common doorway into the porn industry. She started appearing in Internet porn. She had a boyfriend when she began filming and tells me she “felt guilty” about hiding her porn sessions from him, but the money was good. Her boyfriend eventually found out, and their relationship descended into one increasingly characterized by verbal and physical abuse. She drifted from the Internet into films. She was 19 when she made her first film."

"She had been promised $1,000 for her first film. She was handed $600 when the scene was done. She also contracted gonorrhea. Porn stars are tested for HIV and sexually transmitted diseases once a month, but “people do so many scenes between tests that a month is a long time.” She began, once she had treated her gonorrhea, to do films three or four times a month. She would have several more bouts with gonorrhea and other sexually transmitted diseases during her career. She got pregnant and had an abortion. The demands on her began to escalate. She was filmed with multiple partners. Her scenes became “extremely rough. They would pull my hair, slap me around like a rag doll.

“The next day my whole body would ache,” she recalls. “It happened a lot, the aching. It used to be that only a few stars, people like Linda Lovelace, would once do things like anal. Now it is expected.”

Yeah, porn's a healthy, good thing.

You bet. It empowers women.

Chris Hedges The Victims of Pornography - Book Excerpt -Truthdig

As I said in the OP, not asking for quotes. Can get those myself, can't get what's inside your heads.

Too bad. I support the things I say by referencing knowledgeable people who agree. I source my arguments. That's how grown ups do it.

 

[Roadrunner]

I'm on the fence. If a woman wants to engage in porn for money and she is an adult, I'm fine with it.

My concern is with the obvious coercion used in Eastern Europe that essentially reduces young women to sex slaves. The porn industry in the USA is of no interest to me, but the offshore exploitation is a concern.

I favour legal prostitution too, but, I am not going to one.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I favour legal prostitution too, but, I am not going to one.

I'm not a fan of porn, depending on how you define it. I enjoy and watch "Masters of Sex," and I liked the Spartacus series so much I bought them all on Blue Ray.

But as far as cheap internet porn, meh...

Still, as long as everyone is an adult and no one is coerced, I have no problem with it.