Poll: What should women do about transdudes in female sports?

[YoursTruly]

Testimonials don't mean anything. Do you have any actual data?

You'll accept the testimonials from pro-trans groups, for profit doctors and big pharma, but you won't take them from people with trans regret? That's pretty bigoted, don't you think?

 

[YoursTruly]

I suggest all the godbotherers with their crusade to restrict peoples freedom, shut their ignorant mouths and keep their religion out of it.
Because, that's what its all about. The same for abortion disapproval. Its filthy religion.

Religion? Who's talking about religion?

"All men are created equal, with certain unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
The baby that was "CREATED" doesn't get any of those rights because their mothers murdered them.

 

[Coyote]

Testimonials •ARE• data.

No they aren't. They are usually unverified and based on someone's opinion. They could be from anyone. They don't provide answers to necessary questions. How many transgender people have sought treatment? What treatment? How many in each type of treatment regretted it? and Why?

 

[Coyote]

You'll accept the testimonials from pro-trans groups, for profit doctors and big pharma, but you won't take them from people with trans regret? That's pretty bigoted, don't you think?

What testimonials have I accepted?

 

[YoursTruly]

I don't think it matters much with kids, it is only when puberty hits that you really see a notable difference.

Of course it matters. Girls just learn to accept the fact that they're not as strong in come ways as boys. If they had to compete with boys in say middle school, at every turn, there wouldn't be as many girls in high school sports. And even less in college. Sports would be completely dominated by men.

 

[boedicca]

Real women should refuse to participate in the farce of Men with Manbits competing as women.

Show up (don't take the knee) and just stand there as a form of civil disobedience.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Except you really haven't given me any proof that transgender are "mentally ill".

I'll give you two examples.

Jennifer Pritzker, cousin of the Illinois Governor. Served in the US Army and IL ARNG, decorated, went to Airborne School, discharged as a Lt. Col, and then she came out as Transgender in 2013. Runs several businesses and charitable foundations.

Jennifer Pritzker - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Amy Schneider - Recently set new records as a Jeopardy! Champion, coming in as having won the fourth highest amount of money and the second highest number of games. Is an engineering manager.

To deny and to rebel against objective reality, that one can directly observe, is pretty much the definition of mental illness.

To sincerely believe that even though one has XY chromosomes, a male morphology, and a functional male reproduction system, that one is, in any sense, a woman, is a rather obvious example of such mental illness.

There is simply no rational or honest way to reconcile “transgenderism” with any concept of sanity. It is prima facie proof of a defective, disordered mind.

Your examples prove nothing. Being mentally defective in one way does not mean that one cannot be capable of normal or even supernormal mental function in unrelated ways. The classic Idiot Savant would be the extreme example.

 

[Coyote]

Of course it matters. Girls just learn to accept the fact that they're not as strong in come ways as boys. If they had to compete with boys in say middle school, at every turn, there wouldn't be as many girls in high school sports. And even less in college. Sports would be completely dominated by men.

Middle school is also the beginning of puberty.

 

[YoursTruly]

What testimonials have I accepted?

You tell me.

 

[Coyote]

You tell me.

You made the accusation.

 

[Colin norris]

Religion? Who's talking about religion?

"All men are created equal, with certain unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
The baby that was "CREATED" doesn't get any of those rights because their mothers murdered them.

Wheres the freedom for a mother to control her body?
You probably stood against having the vaccine before it was your body your choice.
But the doesn't apply to abortion because your filthy religion, even though you have no instructions from God on the matter, compels you to object to it.
Women abort foetuses every day but don't know it. Why don't you rake through the effluent to save them?

 

[JustAGuy1]

Put together a Trans category, it's quite simple.

 

[YoursTruly]

No, sorry, completely straight.

I don't believe in signing away half my hard earned property for mediocre sex.

That doesn't explain the panties in your dresser and the skirt hanging in your closet.

 

[YoursTruly]

Wheres the freedom for a mother to control her body?

She can control her body, as long as it's JUST her body. After she's pregnant, it's no longer JUST her body. She has her body and the baby has his/hers. Regardless of the development stage, it's still two bodies.

 

[Colin norris]

No they aren't. They are usually unverified and based on someone's opinion. They could be from anyone. They don't provide answers to necessary questions. How many transgender people have sought treatment? What treatment? How many in each type of treatment regretted it? and Why?

Be gentle with Bob. Hes a godbotherer and doesn't take criticism well

 

[JoeB131]

By “well-adjusted”, you mean that have no moral character.

Sure I do. I just don't have yours, which involves quivering and groveling in front of an imaginary sky pixie.

I would actually consider mine higher, because it's based on doing the right thing without any expectation of punishment or reward. I treat people the way I'd want to be treated, give people my honest opinion, and never hit a person when they are down.

 

[YoursTruly]

You probably stood against having the vaccine before it was your body your choice.

I'm not anti vax, if that's what your getting at. I do however believe now it was a waste of time and money.

But the doesn't apply to abortion because your filthy religion, even though you have no instructions from God on the matter, compels you to object to it.

It does apply because you're trying to push this into a religious conversation, when no one except you is bringing up religion. I'm quoting the bill of rights.

Women abort foetuses every day but don't know it. Why don't you rake through the effluent to save them?

You're correct. Women murder their babies every day. Most do it before the baby is born. Some wait for years after it's born to kill them.
A Kansas City woman is charged with murder in the brutal killing of her 6-year-old son after she was arrested Wednesday following a search of her home where police found the boy’s decapitated body.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Or at ANY level. Women shouldn't be forced to compete against men at any level. It's a biologically
stacked deck!

I would definitely not state that so broadly and solidly.

It's true with regard to most sports], than in nearly all of them, men have a very strong biological advantage over women.

Not surprising, since sports have always been, as far as I know, a male-dominated category of activity, and probably tend to have evolved to showcase male attributes of strength, swiftness, and such.

I don't know if there are any objective sports where women have a similar biological advantage compare to men, but there probably are some; and there would surely be more if women has as long an involvement in sports in general as men have had.

Thinking of women's gymnastics, I'm not sure that really qualifies as a “sport” in the same sense that most male-dominated sports do, but I can imagine that a man trying to compete in women's gymnastics, no matter what skill he had and how much he trained, would tend to look very clumsy and ungraceful and score very poorly. This is an activity that seems to focus on very feminine elements of grace,, agility, and beauty, that would put a man at a terrible disadvantage if he tried to match them.


Outside of sports, I know that there are several activities in managing our lives, that my wife is much better at than I am. If we were to try to form some sort of competition between the two of us based on the skills and abilities involved in these activities, she'd kick my ass, hard. Likewise, there are some things that I am much better at than she is.

 

[JoeB131]

You'll accept the testimonials from pro-trans groups, for profit doctors and big pharma, but you won't take them from people with trans regret? That's pretty bigoted, don't you think?

Nope.

I don't doubt some people transition is a mistake. But mostly it's the mistake of someone who had expectations that weren't met.

 

[Circe]

I don't know if there are any objective sports where women have a similar biological advantage compare to men, but there probably are some; and there would surely be more if women has as long an involvement in sports in general as men have had.

Horsebackriding. We get on better with the horses (those who are a "real" horsewoman, not someone just playing dolls with them). Also, we have a weight advantage. Less weight.

I like the gymnastics suggestion.