Poll for Trump Supporters: Will you push back if he goes full fascist?

[dblack]

Are you the specialist about the Chinese?

I know a fair amount. I know a shill when I see one.

 

[Dante]

Trump won decisively.

Give honesty a try.

In the electoral college vote which is how we decide.

But he failed to unite the nation around his candidacy. No mandate. A-hole is still unpopular with the average American

Percentage	49.9%[2]

 

[Robert W]

In the electoral college vote which is how we decide.

But he failed to unite the nation around his candidacy. No mandate. A-hole is still unpopular with the average American

Percentage	49.9%[2]

Trump got 58 percent of the electoral vote. This seems a mystery to democrats.

 

[Robert W]

I know a fair amount. I know a shill when I see one.

Which Chinese is the shill? This is what you know a fair amount about by your own words.

 

[BackAgain]

In the electoral college vote which is how we decide.

But he failed to unite the nation around his candidacy. No mandate. A-hole is still unpopular with the average American

Percentage	49.9%[2]

A complete mandate.

You clearly don’t understand what the word even means.

 

[Stann]

I realize your fuhrer lost and will retire. Try to think of Americans and you will change your tune.

Biden was a good public servant his entire life. He has a sense of decency and humility unlike your trump. That makes all the difference in the world.

 

[Stann]

Trump got 58 percent of the electoral vote. This seems a mystery to democrats.

No mystery , too many fools falling for his big con.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Oh boy, man o man. It feels like one needs a bulldozer to get rid of all the horseshit in the post above.

1. How is Trump going to create jobs.
Well my poster companion, Presidents can create government workers jobs. They can't create private jobs.
2. Government workers under Democrats used to be paid less than decent wages but Democrats managed in the Congress to get ordinary clerks to be very well paid. But not by the citizens called Democrats. They think they are blessed for not being rich. Who pays the bulk of taxes to the Feds? Give yourself a pat on the back if you said the rich pay the vast sums to the Feds. So you expect to have them ripped off way more than now?
3. Democrats try to persuade the working class that they won't harm them with more taxes, they will shit all over the Rich. That is partly fact. They shit over the class that pays far more to the Feds than the majority of Democrats pay for Federal operations.
4. The feds do not factor in in your majority of costs. They for example have no role in rent control or interest control. Even Biden lacks control over the federal reserve.
5. We are mixed up in wars. Biden the dumb man wages war like he is in the kindergarten. If Biden was interested in saving Ukraine, Zelensky would not have had to keep coming to congress begging for help to defeat the Russians. Putin had a good pal in Biden.
6. Biden jacked up Tariffs to China but you get to thank the press for not telling us this much. If you read page 98 of the paper, you knew this. Biden hiked Tariffs a huge amount and also made permanent the previous tariffs by Trump set to expire.
7. Reaganomics worked so well our economy went from tragic under Carter to excellent under Reagan. Learn your facts is my advice.

Carter never tried to defeat Communism but Reagan managed to defeat the Soviets so much their economy was in the gutter for years after.

You suffer from the lies taught to this nation by Democrats.

Well my poster companion, Presidents can create government workers jobs. They can't create private jobs.

There are many ways for a president and our government in general, to create more jobs in the private sector. Legislation, regulations, incentives, contracts..etc, can generate good-paying jobs in the private sector. And yes, Americans can be put to work by the government as well. Will Trump do that? No, he doesn't really care about the working class.

Government workers under Democrats used to be paid less than decent wages but Democrats managed in the Congress to get ordinary clerks to be very well paid. But not by the citizens called Democrats. They think they are blessed for not being rich. Who pays the bulk of taxes to the Feds? Give yourself a pat on the back if you said the rich pay the vast sums to the Feds. So you expect to have them ripped off way more than now? Democrats try to persuade the working class that they won't harm them with more taxes, they will shit all over the Rich. That is partly fact. They shit over the class that pays far more to the Feds than the majority of Democrats pay for Federal operations.

The claim that wealthy Americans pay “vast sums” of federal taxes often relies on cherry-picked data or focuses narrowly on federal income taxes alone. One frequently cited statistic is that the top one percent of earners pay around 40% of federal income taxes, but that number ignores both how disproportionately high their incomes and capital gains are, and it also leaves out payroll taxes, state and local taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, excise taxes, and so on. When we factor in all those taxes, especially payroll taxes that bear more heavily on working people, the playing field tilts the other way. Economists Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman have documented in The Triumph of Injustice (2019) that many billionaires end up with effective tax rates lower than some teachers and nurses. When you consider the entire tax system in the U.S., including regressive state and local taxes, lower and middle-income households shoulder a heavier tax burden.

Historically, we also know that top marginal tax rates in the U.S. were indeed above 90% during the 1950s and early 1960s. According to IRS tax data and archival tax tables (see the Tax Foundation’s historical income tax rates charts ), the highest marginal tax rate hovered around 91% from 1950 until 1963. This was also the so-called “golden era” of American economic dominance. Post–World War II, the nation built a thriving middle class with strong unions, better wages, and job security, while the top 0.01 percent weren’t hoarding wealth as we see now.

The income gap between CEOs and ordinary workers was closer to 30-to-1, not the hundreds or even thousands to one that we see today. Studies by the Economic Policy Institute have tracked that CEO-to-worker pay ratio rising to well over 300-to-1 in recent years, reflecting a glaring surge in inequality that leaves most workers scraping by.

With inequality so extreme, it’s no surprise that many at the top are in a position to stash money offshore and exploit loopholes, while the average worker can’t even afford a small emergency. And why shouldn’t the rich pay their fair share, given how they profit from the labor of others? If our society decided it was unacceptable for individuals to accumulate billions of dollars, enough to buy elections and effectively override democracy, then we have every right to change the laws to prevent that kind of oligarchic concentration of wealth.

The real issue is whether we have the resources and workforce to provide healthcare, education, housing, and a decent life for everyone, not whether we can “afford” it in some purely financial sense. If the economy has people willing to work, factories able to produce, and resources going to waste, the government can mobilize them. That’s what “paying for it” really means: using our real resources, not worrying about whether the wealthy have chipped in enough paper dollars to keep the government running. Because at the end of the day, we all know the wealthy do whatever they can to minimize their tax contributions, so the least they can do, as they benefit so lavishly from our shared economy, is contribute fairly.

The only ones being "shit on" today are the working class, not the wealthy elites.

The feds do not factor in in your majority of costs. They for example have no role in rent control or interest control. Even Biden lacks control over the federal reserve.

If Trump gets his way and tariffs are imposed upon imported goods that the American public needs and we're not manufacturing those products here, we're going to see prices rise.

We are mixed up in wars. Biden the dumb man wages war like he is in the kindergarten. If Biden was interested in saving Ukraine, Zelensky would not have had to keep coming to congress begging for help to defeat the Russians. Putin had a good pal in Biden.

Trump hopefully won't start a war with Iran. That can quickly escalate into a war with Russia and even China.

Reaganomics worked so well our economy went from tragic under Carter to excellent under Reagan. Learn your facts is my advice. Carter never tried to defeat Communism but Reagan managed to defeat the Soviets so much their economy was in the gutter for years after.

It’s easy to repeat the talking point that “Reaganomics worked so well our economy went from tragic under Carter to excellent under Reagan,” but if you dig deeper, the picture is much more nuanced. President Jimmy Carter (1977–1981) inherited an economy squeezed by a combination of factors: the 1973 oil crisis, ongoing Vietnam War debt, and inflation that had been brewing before he ever took office. By 1979, the Federal Reserve—under Carter’s own appointee, Paul Volcker—had already begun hiking interest rates to combat inflation, a measure that continued (and intensified) under Reagan. Much of the “economic turnaround” during the early Reagan years derived from Volcker’s continuation of tight monetary policy rather than purely from Reagan’s supply-side tax cuts.

In fact, Reagan’s major policy innovation, often referred to as “trickle-down” or “supply-side” economics, did not, by and large, deliver broad-based prosperity. While some economic indicators improved in the 1980s, real wages for most American workers barely kept pace with inflation, and income inequality worsened. Reagan cut the top marginal income tax rate from 70% to 28% by the time he left office, and union-busting became normalized after he fired over 11,000 air traffic controllers during the PATCO strike. The result was a sharp decline in union strength nationwide (union membership roughly halved from its 1950s peak).

That loss in worker bargaining power undermined middle-class wages for decades to come. Meanwhile, the deficit soared: the national debt roughly tripled between 1980 and 1988, in part because of those tax cuts plus a massive defense buildup. If you look at historic debt-to-GDP ratios and federal spending, Republican administrations, ironically, often presided over the largest debt expansions (Reagan included).

The Soviet Union collapsed due to perestroika, not Ronald Reagan. The less socialist the Soviets became in an attempt to placate their powerful archmenace, namely, the USA, the more economic problems they faced.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Trump beat Harris by 58 percent of the vote. Remember the congress just counts elector's votes. Biden told his Democrats he was going to destroy oil as an industry. Thankfully the Courts put a stop to him killing off oil. That of course was thought it might stand so the oil industry hiked prices to save themselves. Look, Biden laid out so many lies he should never be praised.

Biden was still against oil when he lost the debate to Trump recently.

Replace oil and coal (fossil fuels) with safe, clean nuclear.

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[Billiejeens]

I know one thing about trump , he doesn't do things for nothing and he is an expert at manipulating people. Jan 6th. was much more than anyone knows. Trump's buddy Stone played an integral part in the scheme. All you have to do is have a lip reader ( s ) carefully review the footage of Stone's meeting with the militia leaders on the Capitol grounds on Jan. 5th. Like our study group did. If you want to know the whole truth of the plot.

Study group.

Hilarious.

 

[Stann]

Replace oil and coal (fossil fuels) with safe, clean nuclear.

A good option.
Let's not put all our eggs into one basket again.

 

[Stann]

Study group.

Hilarious.

You're not that funny.

 

[Billiejeens]

99.9% of the speech was promoting hatred , ignorance and violence. That one sentence was totally out of place. Anyone with common sense could see that.

That leaves your old decrepit dumb ass out.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Biden was a good public servant his entire life. He has a sense of decency and humility unlike your trump. That makes all the difference in the world.

Slow Joe was never a "public servant." He has spent his entire adult life feeding at the public trough.

 

[Stann]

That leaves your old decrepit dumb ass out.

Correct , I want no part of Trump's treachery. Enjoy your mess. You ignorant fool.

 

[Billiejeens]

Correct , I want no part of Trump's treachery. Enjoy your mess. You ignorant fool.

What you want no part of is common sense.

 

[Mac-7]

I'm not looking for a bunch of denials here. I know you think he won't. The question is, "What if he does?". Will you withdraw your support? Will you fight back? Do you have the courage to answer?

Will you miss california after it burns to the ground thanks to woke insanity?

 

[Robert W]

Trump won decisively.

Give honesty a try.

Democrats treat the victory by Trump of 58 percent to Harris of 42 percent like she damned near won. He clawed her by 16 percent. She came out blind.

 

[Stann]

What you want no part of is common sense.

You are so sadly mistaken about what common sense is.

 

[davebb]

Like our study group did. If you want to know the whole truth of the plot.

ok