Poll: Does Trump believe he actually won?

Does Trump actually believe he won the 2020 election?

  • Yes, he really believes he won.

    Votes: 21 28.0%
  • No, he knows he lost.

    Votes: 32 42.7%
  • What? What do you mean, he did win!

    Votes: 22 29.3%

  • Total voters
    75
I still want to know how Trump got more popular votes then Obama, when liberals abort a half a million Democrat voters a year since the 1970s

He cheated. DUH.
I never thought of that, plausible.

I mean common on man how could the hated Trump get more popular votes then the beloved Obama?

DUH, simple math, the population continued to grow. From 2008 to 2017 the 18 and over grew by 16 million + voters; and we can add more 18 and over to this number by the general election, and still more by the the critical vote on Jan 5, 2021.
Link please , and if you use the census they count illegals.
 
I post it because it's true a half a million potential liberal voters die each year and a half a million white supremacists republicans get born a year so again where did all these new votes come from?
Your premise that conservative women never have abortions is downright stupid.
They where not conservative women.

The difference between conservatives and liberals, is that conservatives push their views on other people, while not following their own dictates.
 
I think he might de delusional. Thinks his election was the manifest destiny upset of the millennium. Has had Christians laying their hands on him and praising the Lord for Trump’s work. That’ll affect the mental state of a megalomaniac already a little disconnected from reality.

I think he has literally gaslighted himself into the belief. Deep down he might know but it’s staying deep. This might be the more dangerous choice because what someone will do in the name of destiny way out weighs what they’ll do for a grift or a con.
 
I am not sure which is more dangerous. Trump really believing he won which suggests disconnection from reality OR Trump knowing he didn’t win but carrying on anyway to subvert democracy.
Does it really matter what Trump believes?

All that really matters is that a significant majority of Americans believe that Biden won.

In fact, probably the most dangerous situation is the current one, where at least 50 million people believed the election was a fraud and a sham.

The complete dismissive nature of the MSM has only worked to heighten that belief. Had there been a completely open and honest discussion about it from the beginning, including looking into certain aspects and claims and actually doing some investigating, there wouldn't be 50 million Americans believing the republic is dead and preparing themselves to fight a Civil War.

Transparency could have stopped all of this bullshit, but I wonder why there has been no transparency or even curiosity, don't you?
 
gonna embed special prosecutors to investigate Hunter Biden and election fraud
And if he does what's the problem with that?
You people supported special prosecutors to investigate an imaginary Russian connection for years.

If Hunter did nothing wrong and no provable fraud is found then y'all have nothing to fear.
If something is found then you should be thankful that the checks and balances we have are functioning as intended.

Possible law violations don't suddenly vanish just because a new administration takes over, unless they are corrupt.


And yes, I believe Trump believes he won. I too suspect he did but I have no proof so it matters not what I think.
 
I am not sure which is more dangerous. Trump really believing he won which suggests disconnection from reality OR Trump knowing he didn’t win but carrying on anyway to subvert democracy.
Got to go with the disconnect on reality theory. The second is the more dangerous, as he is definitely trying to subvert democracy, he is big on doubling down, and there are UN-American nut ball supporters that could come into play.

Once again we are not a democracy, if we where gay marriage would still be illegal, the mob of california took up a vote and said No.
No, not a democracy, but a representative republic that elects by the representative vote of electors per the popular democratic vote. Trump just wants to overthrow our system of government. He is outta here.
 
I am not sure which is more dangerous. Trump really believing he won which suggests disconnection from reality OR Trump knowing he didn’t win but carrying on anyway to subvert democracy.
Does it really matter what Trump believes?

All that really matters is that a significant majority of Americans believe that Biden won.

In fact, probably the most dangerous situation is the current one, where at least 50 million people believed the election was a fraud and a sham.

The complete dismissive nature of the MSM has only worked to heighten that belief. Had there been a completely open and honest discussion about it from the beginning, including looking into certain aspects and claims and actually doing some investigating, there wouldn't be 50 million Americans believing the republic is dead and preparing themselves to fight a Civil War.

Transparency could have stopped all of this bullshit, but I wonder why there has been no transparency or even curiosity, don't you?
I’ve yet to see a real charge unexplained.
 
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Not this silly nonsense again, what's the point of having a Senate and house if they are all for peoples rights?

It's one thing to have one man one vote, because all men are created equal. But one state, one vote. States are as disparate as they come.

nine states

Using the latest US Census data, we determined that just nine states - California, Texas, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, Georgia and Florida - account for half of the entire US population.
People in cities are easy to manipulate, you know that right?

Hell they vote against their wallets all the time, last I head a pack of smokes in Chicago was $14 bucks a pack.
 
I still want to know how Trump got more popular votes then Obama, when liberals abort a half a million Democrat voters a year since the 1970s
Trump was challenged by Joe Biden - why do you insist on bringing up Obama? Do you realize that over the course of four (4) years, a few million NEW voters are eligible to vote? You continually reveal your stupidity by relentlessly posting this question.

If you want an answer it's rather simple (I hope you can comprehend this); the 2020 election was a referendum (repudiation) to remove trump from office and motivated more people to vote. Trump also motivated his base which increased the number of votes he received.
I post it because it's true a half a million potential liberal voters die each year and a half a million white supremacists republicans get born a year so again where did all these new votes come from?
People actually voting instead of the average low turnout..

Agree. Dumb Donald (DD) claimed the election of 2016 was rigged too, until late in the night of the election he learned he won. Of course, he lost that election too since more votes were cast for the Democrat, the Green Party and the Libertarian. This time it appears poor DD lost by a reported seven million votes.

It's time to shit can the electoral college and that archaic system outlined in COTUS. And it's time to consider that a Senator in a state with few people have the same power as those in the most populated states:

"Wyoming is the least populated state in the United States followed by Vermont & Alaska. California accounts for 12% of the population of the United States. California, Texas & New York account for 27% of the population in the United States"

As it stands I'd like to see the rules of the senate take this into consideration.
Not this silly nonsense again, what's the point of having a Senate and house if they are all for peoples rights?

One would think all members of Congress support the rights outlined in COTUS for all the people.

That said, it is a high hurdle to eliminate the EC. And we'd still be stuck with Sen Kennedy, Graham and Paul, among other kooks in the Senate.
 
I am not sure which is more dangerous. Trump really believing he won which suggests disconnection from reality OR Trump knowing he didn’t win but carrying on anyway to subvert democracy.
Got to go with the disconnect on reality theory. The second is the more dangerous, as he is definitely trying to subvert democracy, he is big on doubling down, and there are UN-American nut ball supporters that could come into play.

Once again we are not a democracy, if we where gay marriage would still be illegal, the mob of california took up a vote and said No.
No, not a democracy, but a representative republic that elects by the representative vote of electors per the popular democratic vote. Trump just wants to overthrow our system of government. He is outta here.
Say what?

(This will be interesting) how does Trump want to overthrow our system of government?
 
I still want to know how Trump got more popular votes then Obama, when liberals abort a half a million Democrat voters a year since the 1970s
Trump was challenged by Joe Biden - why do you insist on bringing up Obama? Do you realize that over the course of four (4) years, a few million NEW voters are eligible to vote? You continually reveal your stupidity by relentlessly posting this question.

If you want an answer it's rather simple (I hope you can comprehend this); the 2020 election was a referendum (repudiation) to remove trump from office and motivated more people to vote. Trump also motivated his base which increased the number of votes he received.
I post it because it's true a half a million potential liberal voters die each year and a half a million white supremacists republicans get born a year so again where did all these new votes come from?
People actually voting instead of the average low turnout..

Agree. Dumb Donald (DD) claimed the election of 2016 was rigged too, until late in the night of the election he learned he won. Of course, he lost that election too since more votes were cast for the Democrat, the Green Party and the Libertarian. This time it appears poor DD lost by a reported seven million votes.

It's time to shit can the electoral college and that archaic system outlined in COTUS. And it's time to consider that a Senator in a state with few people have the same power as those in the most populated states:

"Wyoming is the least populated state in the United States followed by Vermont & Alaska. California accounts for 12% of the population of the United States. California, Texas & New York account for 27% of the population in the United States"

As it stands I'd like to see the rules of the senate take this into consideration.
Not this silly nonsense again, what's the point of having a Senate and house if they are all for peoples rights?

One would think all members of Congress support the rights outlined in COTUS for all the people.

That said, it is a high hurdle to eliminate the EC. And we'd still be stuck with Sen Kennedy, Graham and Paul, among other kooks in the Senate.


Paul, kennedy, graham represent there states , not the people the way it should be
 
People in cities are easy to manipulate, you know that right?

Hell they vote against their wallets all the time, last I head a pack of smokes in Chicago was $14 bucks a pack.

How are those in cities easy to manipulate. They see life outside their doors. Country folks have no idea what's happening in the real world except what they see on TV.

Which explains why they voted for a guy they saw on TV, while New Yorkers voted against Trump because they saw what he did when he wasn't on TV.
 
I am not sure which is more dangerous. Trump really believing he won which suggests disconnection from reality OR Trump knowing he didn’t win but carrying on anyway to subvert democracy.
This seriously is a tough one. My guess is that he is one of those people who can talk themselves into believing virtually anything, right on the spot. So if that's the case, he may actually believe it on a conscious level, at least.

I'm looking forward to the psychological studies that are no doubt on the way, examining these last five years.
All we want is a couple hundred of the nukes And a percentage of the rest of military.
 
I post it because it's true a half a million potential liberal voters die each year and a half a million white supremacists republicans get born a year so again where did all these new votes come from?
Your premise that conservative women never have abortions is downright stupid.
They where not conservative women.

The difference between conservatives and liberals, is that conservatives push their views on other people, while not following their own dictates.
What the hell?

Who pushed for gay marriage

Who pushed for guys in dresses in girl sports

Who pushed for guys in dresses in little girls bathrooms?

Who pushed for defunding the police

Who is pushing for green energy?

Who pushed for seat belt laws, helmet laws?

It wasn't the conservatives
 

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