Politics haunting the Catholic church once again

[Votto]

Are you a Catholic? If not, what business is it of yours?

I am a Christian, therefore, I feel an obligation to critique those who also claim to be so.

But even if I was not, I have a right to critique pretty much anyone, even you.

And again, I don't care that you think I have to be Catholic to comment on such things.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I am not trying to say that the Catholic church approved of Hitler, as many did not.

My critique is that they did not publicly stand up to the Nazi regime because it would have meant the destruction of the Vatican and their treasure.

But imagine had they done just that?

What a powerful testimony to the world that would have been.

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Thanks for clarifying that. I'll spend some time thinking about your point, and maybe bring it into discussion with some Catholic friends. It's a good one.

If you want to read more about the Catholic pedo problem, I'd suggest you read this book.

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[Votto]

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Thanks for clarifying that. I'll spend some time thinking about your point, and maybe bring it into discussion with some Catholic friends. It's a good one.


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I am not trying to bash Catholics, FYI

 

[1srelluc]

Are you a Catholic? If not, what business is it of yours?

In my AO's case I don't think much of local gop politicians playing off the protestant dislike of Catholics.

I'm agnostic so I'm just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I asked one of the lawyer backed gop hopfuls the other day if he had got the memo that the gop is supposed to be helping the working man, not his lawyer benefactor.....He just walked away.

 

[Mac1958]

I think we need a new Inquisition to root out Muslims, Democrats, Mexicans, the poor, the D33P STAIT, and all other unfaithful undesirables.

Put them on the rack!

Perfect for MAGA Christians™, not so much for serious Christians.

 

[Sparker]

There's not much the new chief politician can do that makes any difference in the long slow decline and death of his employer.

 

[kyzr]

This is the whole article

Thanks for clarifying and copying.

Catholics have a new pope: Leo XIV. Most of the cardinals who elected him were appointed by Pope Francis, and at first glance, the new pontiff appears to share much with his predecessor. But it’s early yet. Catholics should pray that Leo charts a very different course. The reason is simple: The Catholic Church finds itself locked in a battle against three hostile ideologies — globalism, Islam, and communism. And right now, it’s losing on all fronts.

Pope Francis earned the nickname the "People’s Pope,” a title meant to suggest he championed ordinary Catholics. In truth, he aligned more closely with the globalist left. He openly opposed President Trump’s push to restore American borders and criticized similar efforts by European nations to reclaim their sovereignty. Under Francis, the Church’s advocacy of open borders helped dismantle Western Christendom by encouraging the mass migration of Muslims into Europe. Many of these migrants view their secularized Christian hosts with contempt. European leaders, meanwhile, steeped in guilt and detached from the virtues of their own civilization, capitulated. The result: rape, murder, and a continent sinking into self-loathing. Only a radical reformation can pull Europe back from the brink.
Communism and Christianity cannot coexist. The new pope must say so — clearly, unambiguously, and without fear.

European leftists wanted open borders, now they have countries with more mosques than churches. Their left ideology changed their countries forever. There is no going back to their original cultures. Tragic.

Francis also failed pastorally. Faced with the ongoing sexual abuse crisis that has haunted the Church for decades, he refused to lead with transparency or justice. When he became pope, he had the chance to hold predatory priests accountable for their demonic crimes and restore trust among the faithful. Instead, he did next to nothing. His silence signaled to the hierarchy that abuse could still be covered up, even tolerated. That betrayal deepened the wounds of a Church already in crisis and demoralized millions of believers.
Pope Leo XIV now has a moment to break with the past. He must act swiftly and decisively. The Church cannot afford another papacy of retreat and complicity.

I saw the movie "Spotlight" and was disgusted by the number of pedophile priests.
Pope Leo didn't inherit that problem, he just needs to ensure that there is no recurrence.

A disgraceful bargain​

In December 2017, Pope Francis appeared on Italian television and publicly questioned the traditional wording of the Lord’s Prayer. The closing line — “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil” (Matthew 6:13, Luke 11:4) — is a direct teaching from Christ. Francis asked, “What kind of Father would lead his children into temptation?”
That question revealed a deeper confusion. The line reflects not divine cruelty but the profound gift of human freedom. God grants mankind free will — the ability to choose between good and evil, between virtue and temptation. The Lord’s Prayer acknowledges that freedom and asks God to help us navigate it. Pope Francis, it seems, struggled to grasp this. His discomfort with the line suggests a broader discomfort with the idea that freedom comes with moral risk — and that risk, in turn, calls for responsibility, discipline, and faith.

Tempest in a teapot. Not a problem. Did not change the wording.

At the same time, Francis sent disgraced pedophile Cardinal Theodore McCarrick to Beijing to negotiate a secret deal with the Chinese Communist Party. That deal handed partial control of the Church in China to the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association, a CCP-run front established in 1957 to suppress Christianity and replace it with a state-approved imitation.
Religious freedom in communist China remains a fiction. Teaching the faith to children is effectively banned. The Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association exists not to protect believers but to pacify the Vatican and deceive the West. It offers a false promise of coexistence — as long as Catholicism conforms to state-imposed restrictions. Some call this process the “Sinicization” of the Church. A more accurate term would be its communization.

China is a different animal. So apparently is McCarrick.

 

[luiza]

Give the new pope a chance before you judge him.

Do you say that for all losers and idiots ?

He is an old friend of Jesuit Francis and will ultimately undermine Catholicism, which is exactly what Deep State expects its members to do .

As a very easy example .
Would you have given Squawker Harris a chance in anything of importance and consequence ?
Or her old pal , Piss Pot the First?

There is your clear answer .
Find out first which are the weeds, and uproot them before they have a chance to do damage .

See Lefty Mutants as present toxic weeds .

 

[Zebra]

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Where did you get any context for the photo you posted?

The nazis killed a LOT of Catholic priests. Saint Maximilian Kolbe is the best known of them.

Maximilian Kolbe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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tomorrow is his name day!

 

[Votto]

Do you say that for all losers and idiots ?

He is an old friend of Jesuit Francis and will ultimately undermine Catholicism, which is exactly what Deep State expects its members to do .

As a very easy example .
Would you have given Squawker Harris a chance in anything of importance and consequence ?
Or her old pal , Piss Pot the First?

There is your clear answer .
Find out first which are the weeds, and uproot them before they have a chance to do damage .

See Lefty Mutants as present toxic weeds .

The new Pope seems to be laying low, trying to clean up after the last one.

 

[Zincwarrior]

When the Catholic church sells their billion dollar palaces to give money to the poor, I will care.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

When the Catholic church sells their billion dollar palaces to give money to the poor, I will care.

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How many of the poor have you taken into your house?





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