Politico: School Choice Has Allowed Parents to Choose Good Schools in Florida, and Now the Bad Government Schools Are Closing, and That's... Bad

Mar 3, 2013
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Bad cuz we can’tz indoktrnatz dem wit kommie blather to make dem mindless sheeples like we successfully did wit todays kollege Kidz.

Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida Republicans have spent years aggressively turning the state into a haven for school choice. They have been wildly successful, with tens of thousands more children enrolling in private or charter schools or homeschooling.
Now as those programs balloon, some of Florida's largest school districts are facing staggering enrollment declines -- and grappling with the possibility of campus closures -- as dollars follow the increasing number of parents opting out of traditional public schools.

The emphasis on these programs has been central to DeSantis' goals of remaking the Florida education system, and they are poised for another year of growth. DeSantis' school policies are already influencing other GOP-leaning states, many of which have pursued similar voucher programs. But Florida has served as a conservative laboratory for a suite of other policies, ranging from attacking public- and private-sector diversity programs to fighting the Biden administration on immigration.

"We need some big changes throughout the country," DeSantis said Thursday evening at the Florida Homeschool Convention in Kissimmee. "Florida has shown a blueprint, and we really can be an engine for that as other states work to adopt a lot of the policies that we've done."

Education officials in some of the state's largest counties are looking to scale back costs by repurposing or outright closing campuses -- including in Broward, Duval and Miami-Dade counties. Even as some communities rally to try to save their local public schools, traditional public schools are left with empty seats and budget crunches.

Since 2019-20, when the pandemic upended education, some 53,000 students have left traditional public schools in these counties, a sizable total that is forcing school leaders to consider closing campuses that have been entrenched in local communities for years.

In Broward County, Florida's second-largest school district, officials have floated plans to close up to 42 campuses over the next few years, moves that would have a ripple effect across Fort Lauderdale and Hollywood.

The district has lost more than 20,000 students over the last five years, a decline that comes as charter schools in particular experienced sizable growth in the area. Enrollment in charters, which are public schools operating under performance contracts freeing them of many state regulations, increased by nearly 27,000 students since 2010, according to Broward school officials.


Broward County Public Schools claims to have more than 49,000 classroom seats sitting empty this year, a number that "closely matches" the 49,833 students attending charter schools in the area, officials noted in an enrollment overview.

 
Actually, it is bad because you giving a subsidy to the wealthy (those who can already afford private schools) at the expense of those who can't.
Which is a total crock because these private and charter schools are not beholden to the teacher's unions which dictate curricula. Good for the parents who do the right thing and take their kids from these inner city cesspools.
 
Actually, it is bad because you giving a subsidy to the wealthy (those who can already afford private schools) at the expense of those who can't.
Actually, it is good because you are giving a subsidy to those who CAN'T afford private schools. Those who can already do, and still pay for public schools with their taxes.
 
Actually, it is bad because you giving a subsidy to the wealthy (those who can already afford private schools) at the expense of those who can't.

The purpose is to give people who can't afford private schools a choice besides "take what we give you or fuck off"
 
Bad cuz we can’tz indoktrnatz dem wit kommie blather to make dem mindless sheeples like we successfully did wit todays kollege Kidz.

Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida Republicans have spent years aggressively turning the state into a haven for school choice. They have been wildly successful, with tens of thousands more children enrolling in private or charter schools or homeschooling.
Now as those programs balloon, some of Florida's largest school districts are facing staggering enrollment declines -- and grappling with the possibility of campus closures -- as dollars follow the increasing number of parents opting out of traditional public schools.

The emphasis on these programs has been central to DeSantis' goals of remaking the Florida education system, and they are poised for another year of growth. DeSantis' school policies are already influencing other GOP-leaning states, many of which have pursued similar voucher programs. But Florida has served as a conservative laboratory for a suite of other policies, ranging from attacking public- and private-sector diversity programs to fighting the Biden administration on immigration.

"We need some big changes throughout the country," DeSantis said Thursday evening at the Florida Homeschool Convention in Kissimmee. "Florida has shown a blueprint, and we really can be an engine for that as other states work to adopt a lot of the policies that we've done."

Education officials in some of the state's largest counties are looking to scale back costs by repurposing or outright closing campuses -- including in Broward, Duval and Miami-Dade counties. Even as some communities rally to try to save their local public schools, traditional public schools are left with empty seats and budget crunches.

Since 2019-20, when the pandemic upended education, some 53,000 students have left traditional public schools in these counties, a sizable total that is forcing school leaders to consider closing campuses that have been entrenched in local communities for years.

In Broward County, Florida's second-largest school district, officials have floated plans to close up to 42 campuses over the next few years, moves that would have a ripple effect across Fort Lauderdale and Hollywood.

The district has lost more than 20,000 students over the last five years, a decline that comes as charter schools in particular experienced sizable growth in the area. Enrollment in charters, which are public schools operating under performance contracts freeing them of many state regulations, increased by nearly 27,000 students since 2010, according to Broward school officials.


Broward County Public Schools claims to have more than 49,000 classroom seats sitting empty this year, a number that "closely matches" the 49,833 students attending charter schools in the area, officials noted in an enrollment overview.

So? The funding would remain the same!
 
The purpose is to give people who can't afford private schools a choice besides "take what we give you or fuck off"
No, the purpose is to subsidize rich private school students with tax dollars for their private education.

A recent voucher proposal in Tennesse addressed this by not allowing any private school student from requesting a voucher. Only public school students, incoming kindergarteners and new students moving into the school. That proposal was defeated, and as did all other proposals.
 
Which is a total crock because these private and charter schools are not beholden to the teacher's unions which dictate curricula. Good for the parents who do the right thing and take their kids from these inner city cesspools.
Newsflash: Charter schools are public schools and the teachers are unionized just the same. To have non-union teachers violates the law. Prior to COVID, blue states having union input into curriculum was non-existent. Most red states still do not allow it, even in blue cities in red states.
 
If you could afford a private school wouldn't you choose to send them there rather than public school?
They won't.

Now, I went to a parochial school back in the 1970's. If my Dad could have gotten him a voucher for myself and my four siblings to subsidize his tuition, he would have.

Unless you means test the vouchers, all the people who are currently sending their kids will apply for them.
 
No, the purpose is to subsidize rich private school students with tax dollars for their private education.

A recent voucher proposal in Tennesse addressed this by not allowing any private school student from requesting a voucher. Only public school students, incoming kindergarteners and new students moving into the school. That proposal was defeated, and as did all other proposals.

The purpose is to give public schools some real competition so they have to do their fucking jobs and stop playing the indoctrination game.
 

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