If people wanted universal healthcare they wouldn't have voted in Trump. If people wanted universal healthcare, the Congress and Senate would be Democrat led today.
They didnt' vote for Trump. 53% of people voted against Trump.
Guy, you didn't win over the voters. You gamed the system. Now, nothing wrong with that. We have this awful system that we haven't fixed.
But don't pretend you won the argument... because you didn't.
Yeah, this awful system we didn't fix.
Well this is the third time you leftists blamed the system and not your candidate. The last two complaints led the country to spend tens of millions of dollars catering to you snowflakes, and you're still complaining.
Oh! And what if things were reversed and Hil-Liar won the electoral votes and Trump the popular? You would be defending the electoral college all the way to your last reply on the boards.
You are correct about them defending it when it is clearly to their advantage. I have had this argument on forums local to Maryland, see, in Maryland as a conservative, my vote for president does not count, never has, there really is no reason for me to vote for president other than the fact that Im bored. But I do, it also gives me the right to complain.
The reason that my vote does not count is because of the EC, in Maryland the voters will vote for the democrat no matter who it is, if both hillary and Donald had run the same campaigns, said the same thing, had the same everything except that Donald was the D and hillary was the R, Donald would have won Maryland's EC votes.
When I argue this with those here, (and some that drop in from other states) Their response is basically that the EC is there as a safety net to insure that the majority do not get to automatically rule the minority. Its there to keep more populated states closer to equal to the smaller states.
You have to consider that fact that when the EC was first written in to the election process, everything was about the states, the states rights, state lines, state commerce etc... the individual was part of the state and his contributions were for the state. Try to imagine it almost like those living in Maryland or California looking at Georgia or Florida much like a U.S citizen would look at Cuba or Russia. State pride was a huge factor.
The idea or fear was that if a state with enough voters were to decide an election, they would be able to vote themselves things that could be detrimental to the smaller populated states. Lets say California decided that it deserved free cotton, so through popular vote and legal process of determining things, there was a vote that if won, would make it law that 40% of all cotton produced in the state of Georgia would from that point on be shipped free of charge to California. The vote wins and suddenly Georgia sees a 40% loss in its revenue. Far fetched yes but essentially that is the reason for the EC, its so that a few highly populated states do not get to dictate to the less populated states how they are going to live.
You will note that with the EC there is no way to win without the votes from at least a few of the small states along with the larger states. Possible but not likely.
But at any rate, if you want to hear the liberals arguing how great the EC is and how well it works, just wait till all of this blows over and then go to a local state forum of a historically democratic state and start complaining how the EC disenfranchises the Conservative voters. They will be glad to share with you an accurate reason for the EC. Its not that they dont understand, its just that it is not working to their advantage right now so it should be changed. Anything that gives them an upper hand.
