Mr. P
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DKSuddeth said:the right to due process has been removed upon two words. 'enemy combatant'.
A little more detail would be nice. Got ref for that? A link?
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DKSuddeth said:the right to due process has been removed upon two words. 'enemy combatant'.
Mr. P said:A little more detail would be nice. Got ref for that? A link?
rtwngAvngr said:The Libertarian Party has apparently been taken over by a bunch of antiamerican radicals, trying to convince americans to abandon their own security with odd appeals to conservatism, if tpahl is representative.
Do not be fooled, people.
To say that extra security measures are ONLY a charade to erode our freedoms implies one believes the war on terror must not be real. It obviously is.
Thinking we can just "stop making the terrorsists mad" and they will end their jihad is a naivete of the most dangerous sort which must not go unchallenged in public discourse. Luckily I'm here.
Kathianne, I'm glad someone else can see through this pucky.
DKSuddeth said:If you are unaware of the patriot act and the fact that by declaring someone an 'enemy combatant', one can be held indefinitely, without charge or counsel, and you actually require me to post a link despite the fact that this has been argued for the last 3 years, I have to ask where the hell have you been?
DKSuddeth said:why do you support opression for security over civil rights for all americans?
So according to your logic, that would also mean at the loss of our freedoms. yeah - that makes sense.rtwngAvngr said:why do I who what where?
Our civil rights won't matter if we're all nuked because we're too politically correct to take the measures necessary to stop terrorists using our freedoms to destroy the government which maintains those freedoms. also, read my sig.
Flying Duck said:To which SPECIFIC sections of The Patriot Act are you referring? Cite them.
Mr. P said:DK.......I knew the PA was your drum...Please explain how that effects me.
Are they just coming to take me away in the night? For what? Because the PA
says they can...NOT. It doesn't work that way.
Hey the good news is we survived it then, I think we will this time too.
rtwngAvngr said:why do I who what where?
Our civil rights won't matter if we're all nuked because we're too politically correct to take the measures necessary to stop terrorists using our freedoms to destroy the government which maintains those freedoms. also, read my sig.
ken said:DKS, sorry to abbr,
Can you give a personal example where your rights have been violated by the Patriot Act, or any other recent measure by law enforcement or security personnel??
KEN
Mr. P said:Thanks Duck...I always hope that people
know that is required.
when making such claims..Nope..guess not.
DKSuddeth said:so you support the removal of all civil rights and liberties as long as we don't get nuked?
DKSuddeth said:so you support the removal of all civil rights and liberties as long as we don't get nuked?
HGROKIT said:So according to your logic, that would also mean at the loss of our freedoms. yeah - that makes sense.
DKSuddeth said:the point of the matter is will it stop there? what happens if an administration you DON'T trust has the power to use it? and just because something doesn't affect you DIRECTLY, does not mean it doesn't have the ability to.
rtwngAvngr said:DId I say that? Simmer down, mr.