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Save Russia from FASCISM? WTF are you babbling about? Stalin could arguably have saved Russia from the Aristrocrats and the Nazi Socialists but fascists? Italy? They were never a threat. Or do you not want Socialists listed as something that people need to be saved from.Let me save you some time and trouble: JoeB131 is a pro-communist piece of trash. I'm not kidding one bit. Go read some of his posts in the History forum. In one thread in which he and I exchanged many posts, he praised Mao as a great leader who brought peace, stability, and prosperity to China--that is just about a verbatim quote. He complained that people were "demonizing" Joseph Stalin. He claimed that Red China's government was better and less repressive than Free China's (Taiwan's) government, that the people in Red China were better off than the people in Free China. I am not exaggerating one little bit.
The fact that you think that a fascist dictator like Cash My Check was running a "Free" country is laughable. Old Peanut was just as ruthless a dictator as Mao was... he was just less competent.
YOur or my opinion of Mao is irrelevant.... it's what Chinese people think of him. He's still highly admired in China. Probably more admired than George Washington is in this country.
Same thing with Stalin. We might not like him, but Russians still consider him the hero that saved the world from Fascism. (Of course, Axis Mikey is sad that Fascism lost, as the Mormons would be happy if the Nazis made the world "White and Delightsome")
AND fyi, yes chauvin and thousands of other police use this technique a lot on violent criminals-----notice that there isn't a stack of dead criminals. Of course you would have to be both honest and intelligent to realize that this is actually more proof of using a knee to keep a criminal from rolling out into traffic is not a deadly move. Kinda a NO SHIT moment but either you can't grasp the basics or don't want to admit them.
Thats a lie on so many levels. Floyd had several FAKE $20 ....he was hiding two other of his FAKE $20 when the cops arrived. He was a violent criminal with a long rap sheet who refused to be arrested and was obviously out of his mind tripping on drugs.
AND fyi, yes chauvin and thousands of other police use this technique a lot on violent criminals-----notice that there isn't a stack of dead criminals. Of course you would have to be both honest and intelligent to realize that this is actually more proof of using a knee to keep a criminal from rolling out into traffic is not a deadly move. Kinda a NO SHIT moment but either you can't grasp the basics or don't want to admit them.
Guy was found guilty... UP yours.
The cop is innocent and this jury was tainted---the case is going to be overturned...and now they will have to find a jury that doesn't feel threatened by Walters thugs. Move the case out of Minnesota to a nice law abidding conservative area and see what happens.Thats a lie on so many levels. Floyd had several FAKE $20 ....he was hiding two other of his FAKE $20 when the cops arrived. He was a violent criminal with a long rap sheet who refused to be arrested and was obviously out of his mind tripping on drugs.
AND fyi, yes chauvin and thousands of other police use this technique a lot on violent criminals-----notice that there isn't a stack of dead criminals. Of course you would have to be both honest and intelligent to realize that this is actually more proof of using a knee to keep a criminal from rolling out into traffic is not a deadly move. Kinda a NO SHIT moment but either you can't grasp the basics or don't want to admit them.
Guy was found guilty... UP yours.
Yup, he did. And I'm not going to lose any sleep over it because he didn't even bother trying to use CPR on him. That in itself, especially from a police officer, is just as good as murder, imo.
Chauvin is going to prison over a violent druggy thief. One who was DUI to the store. (meth and fentanyl). One who didn't have the money to buy a pack of cigs. One who fought his way to the exact spot of his death. (instead of just staying in the car.
But more importantly. Chauvin is going to jail over a man who chose to buy drugs, instead of support his own kid. One who tried to pass fake money for cigs, instead of food or clothes for his daughter.
I don't know about you bub, but ANYONE that chooses that gangster lifestyle over the lives of their own children, aren't worth a bucket of piss.
Take up for that, DUDE!!!!
The cop is innocent and this jury was tainted---the case is going to be overturned...and now they will have to find a jury that doesn't feel threatened by Walters thugs. Move the case out of Minnesota to a nice law abidding conservative area and see what happens.
Chauvin is going to jail because he used excessive force over a minor offense.
As for Floyd being less than a model citizen... um, yeah? So what? He used Drugs. So did fat ass Rush Limbaugh, but Limbaugh got a sweetheart deal and treatment. It would be nice if Floyd had gotten treatment for his addiction, but those programs have waiting lists.
Excessive force? It took 4 of them to get him into the patrol car. And they couldn't even keep him in it. And that was with him handcuffed.
So maaaaaaaaaaaaybe that might have something to do with why Chauvin kept him in that position. If he had a chance to get up, ALL of them would've had to wrestle with him again.
He bought meth and fentanyl instead of supporting his children, and you say "so what?"
BTW, this has nothing to do with druggy Rush. I don't like him either. But at least he supported his kids.
Those programs don't work, unless the person is ready to get off drugs. He wasn't. He was still partying, doing drugs, have a good ole time, while someone else was raising and supporting his kids.
And you say "So what?" You ain't no man, dude. Not even close.
They killed the guy over a fake $20. That's excessive.
Rush never had any kids... unless you count the Dominican Rent Boys he used to visit.
But the point remains. Poor people on drugs are treated harshly, rich white people get rehab and kid-glove treatment.
Was he in a rehab program? Nope. He was addicted to painkillers because of a back issue.
You really believe that stupid crap don't you? The fake $20 was why the STORE called the cops. Floyd was restrained on the ground because he wouldn't stay in the cop car. All the fighting and kicking Floyd was doing, was why so many was restraining him.
I realize why you keep trying to change the subject to Rush or rich people. But it's not going to work. This is about Floyd choosing drugs and being a gangsta, over being a decent dad. Decent dad's spend their money on their kids instead of drugs.
That's the excuse. And it's always the excuse. But still, an excuse is all it is. Druggies always have an excuse to use drugs. And only the simply minded morons believe their lies. What was his excuse for not spending that drug money on his kids? Was he not addicted to his kids?
Any way you slice or dice this dude, Floyd was still a violent druggy thief, who chose to be a bad person, instead of a good father.
If you take up for people like that, then you ain't no better.
Again, the problem here was that they took a minor offense and ESCALATED it to a lethal force situation... No one is disputing passing a fake 20 was wrong. Make him return the smokes, write him a bench citation, and impound his car. Call it a day.
Rush had a decent dad. The guy was a federal judge, in fact. Rush still became a drug addict and took trips down to the Dominican Republican to enjoy the company of rent boys.
No, actually, guy, I'm a decent human being who realizes addiction is an illness that needs to be treated.
We've tried to punish poor people (rich people get rehab; if they sent the rich white drug addicts to prison, they'd be demanding an end to the War on Drugs tomorrow). It doesn't work. We really need to try something different.
Floyd didn't give the cops a chance to just be nice. He wouldn't even get out of the vehicle. Floyd escalated all this to start with.
BTW, you're in favor of a known violent criminal being turned loose on the streets, in a vehicle?
He was already DUI, adn you want to just let him drive off? He had more of that fake money in his vehicle. Which means he was planning on ripping off even more businesses. Plus he had more drugs in his vehicle.
You're brainless idea of Floyd was to just let him remain free until when? Until he runs over a child? Before he holds up another woman at gun point? What crime do you think it becomes necessary to take these thugs to jail for?
This is about Floyd. No one else. Just Floyd. The way you're trying to change this subject can ONLY mean you can't really defend Floyds actions. And it's noted.
Ok, so let's not punish them. But we have to get them off the streets and put somewhere that they don't adversely affect the lives of innocent people. Where they can't steal. Where they can't DUI while high as a kite. Some place like maybe........... YOUR HOUSE. Yeah, that it. You go pick up a homeless drug addict, put him/her in your house. You house them. Feed them. Pay for a drug addict counselor. Drive them to the store for their needs. You use your money for all this until that person is "fit for society" again.
A prime example of the obscene nature of the jury's verdict is that, following the judge's instructions, the jury had to conclude that Floyd's serious heart condition, his hypertension, and his ingestion of a fatal dosage of fentanyl had NOTHING to do with his death. Why? Because if those things played a role in Floyd's death, then there was automatically reasonable doubt about the role that the 140-pound Chauvin played in placing his knee on Floyd's shoulder blade. The prosecution called four prostitute medical "experts" who all claimed that Floyd's horrible health and ingestion of fentanyl had absolutely nothing to do with his death--a conclusion that the autopsy report abjectly refutes, and that the medical examiner expressly rejected in his testimony.
To give you some idea of just how serious Floyd's heart condition was, he had a 90% narrowing of the right coronary artery and a 75% narrowing of the left coronary artery. The medical examiner made it clear that the force that Chauvin used would never have caused a person of average health to die or even to have trouble breathing. Tests have proved this. But the officers had no way of knowing that Floyd had such a serious heart condition or that he had just taken three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl.
Floyd began complaining that he could not breathe long before he was pinned on the ground for violently resisting arrest (he kicked one of the officers so hard that he nearly knocked him over). A known, documented side effect of a *normal* dosage of fentanyl is "slowed breathing" and even "stopped breathing." Floyd took over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl, so it is no wonder that he was having trouble breathing before the officers even tried to put him in the car.
Yup, he did. And I'm not going to lose any sleep over it because he didn't even bother trying to use CPR on him. That in itself, especially from a police officer, is just as good as murder, imo.Guy was found guilty... UP yours.
‘Police Body Camera Footage Proves George Floyd Was Not "Murdered"’I have changed my mind about the George Floyd case, after watching several hours of Derek Chauvin's trial, and especially after watching the previously unreleased police body-camera footage of the incident.
I do not believe that Chauvin committed second-degree murder. I think he committed manslaughter. I would need several pages to fully explain the reasons for my view. Here are a few points that capture the main reasons:
* Floyd could have avoided being pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply obeyed the police officers' repeated request to get into the back of the police car.
* The officers did not pin Floyd on the ground until after he strongly resisted being put into the police car and after he then pushed his way out of the car and came out the other side of the car. Only at that point did the officers pin him on the ground.
* Floyd's claim that he was afraid to get into confined spaces and therefore afraid to get into the back of the police car seems extremely doubtful, given the fact that Floyd had just spent several minutes in the front of a small car with the windows rolled up. The body camera footage shows that the front of the car that Floyd was taken from was virtually identical in size to the back of the police car.
* The officers may have doubted Floyd's claim that he could not breathe because he started making this claim long before he was pinned on the ground and at a time when he clearly could breathe, as the officers pointed out to him.
* Floyd's autopsy report proves that he was heavily under the influence of drugs during the incident. This could explain his irrational behavior.
* Floyd deserves most of the blame for the incident. Chauvin should not have put his knee on Floyd's neck. He should have eased up on Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped moving, and he should have checked Floyd's vital signs after he stopped moving. But, again, Floyd never would have been pinned on the ground in the first place if he had simply gotten into the back of the police car as he was repeatedly instructed to do.
And, just for the record, George Floyd was neither a "gentle person" nor "a good father"; he was a violent thug with a long rap sheet:
Two Sides To Every Story: George Floyd And Derek Chauvin – Stateline Network EXTRA
You really believe that stupid crap don't you? The fake $20 was why the STORE called the cops. Floyd was restrained on the ground because he wouldn't stay in the cop car. All the fighting and kicking Floyd was doing, was why so many was restraining him.
Again, the problem here was that they took a minor offense and ESCALATED it to a lethal force situation... No one is disputing passing a fake 20 was wrong. Make him return the smokes, write him a bench citation, and impound his car. Call it a day.
I realize why you keep trying to change the subject to Rush or rich people. But it's not going to work. This is about Floyd choosing drugs and being a gangsta, over being a decent dad. Decent dad's spend their money on their kids instead of drugs.
Rush had a decent dad. The guy was a federal judge, in fact. Rush still became a drug addict and took trips down to the Dominican Republican to enjoy the company of rent boys.
That's the excuse. And it's always the excuse. But still, an excuse is all it is. Druggies always have an excuse to use drugs. And only the simply minded morons believe their lies. What was his excuse for not spending that drug money on his kids? Was he not addicted to his kids?
Any way you slice or dice this dude, Floyd was still a violent druggy thief, who chose to be a bad person, instead of a good father.
If you take up for people like that, then you ain't no better.
No, actually, guy, I'm a decent human being who realizes addiction is an illness that needs to be treated.
We've tried to punish poor people (rich people get rehab; if they sent the rich white drug addicts to prison, they'd be demanding an end to the War on Drugs tomorrow). It doesn't work. We really need to try something different.
hauvin did not "use CPR on him" (1) because he did not know that Floyd needed CPR, (2) because he had no idea that Floyd had such serious health issues, (3) because he knew an EMS ambulance would be there in a few minutes, (4) because he did not know that Floyd had ingested three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl minutes earlier, and (5) because he did not know that Floyd had even stopped breathing.
In another reply, you said, "Floyd had been using Fentanyl for years, and didn't die." This is just typical of your shallow, silly arguments. Yes, Floyd had been taking fentanyl for years, but he had never taken three times the lethal dosage before. Big difference.
You keep ignoring any fact that doesn't fit your cop-hating narrative. You show a screencap of Chauvin with his knee on Floyd's shoulder and say, "THIS is unacceptable to decent people." You mean it's unacceptable to cop haters like you, never mind that Chauvin weighs only 140 pounds, never mind that the medical examiner made it crystal clear that a person of average health would not have died from the force that Chauvin used, never mind that tests have proved that a normal healthy male can have 200 pounds placed on his upper back and still have no trouble breathing (the medical examiner cited one such test),
never mind that Floyd never would have been pinned in the first place if he had not violently resisted arrest (to include kicking one of the officers), and never mind that the police would not have even been called to the scene if Floyd had just returned the items he had stolen, as he was twice asked to do by two Cup Foods employees.
In order to find Chauvin guilty, the jury had to buy the prosecution's obscene lie that Floyd's severe heart problems, his hypertension, and his ingestion of a massive dose of fentanyl had nothing whatsoever to do with his death. They had to believe that Floyd died solely and only because the 140-pound Chauvin put his knee on Floyd's shoulder blade for 9 minutes.
