So, your point is blame everyone else but Trump for our state of affairs.
Some people are in denial. You'd have to be a fool not to notice that.
not at all. i blame all of us. myself, you, trump, obama...
but you have an anti-trump missle silo up your ass and all you will let yourself see is BAD TRUMP!!!! when i call you on this you just get mad and usually fall back to i'm denial, i love trump and some other extremist bullshit other than i'm just not going to play the hate game. i was not a fan of obama but i didn't dog his every move and manufacture the rage the left loves to make up now and then dance around justifying.
while i don't think trump is as bad as obama, i feel that way for issues themselves, not trumps twitter rampages that sets off the weak minded. (you, for example). you simply can't allow yourself to see or think about trump in a potentially positive light. that is YOUR problem, not his.
you're a fool cause you deny it.
carry on.
So, the notion if the buck stops here no longer applies. Got it.
Where you are wrong is that you choose to ignore the news about Trump; you chose to ignore Trump's actions; you choose to ignore Trump's words. You put on rose colored glasses and call it truth.
Well, if Trump is compromising the security if this nation, or if the FBI is so concerned about Trump's loyalty that they open an investigation, I will open a thread and a have discussion. That is as it should be.
that notion doesn't work when it goes against obama though. i can say FISA warrants were illegal as told by FISA, and i get WELL OBAMA DIDN'T DO IT HE CAN'T CONTROL IT ALL!!!
same for his treatment of journalists and the like. all i hear back is denial, obama didn't do it, he can't control everything people do... but yet here you want sole accountability.
THIS is what makes these conversations assnugget painful. you don't treat topics the same. you give leeway to what you like, go full attack on what you don't and you dont care that your standards shift so you CAN do that.
you open a thread to slam trump. you seldom give a fuckstick about "discussion" more just exchanging jabs.
and when you then come at me and call *me* out cause i don't join you on your attack of windmills, it just puts a big "**** off" in me to offer up to you. because i don't agree with you doesn't mean i'm 100% opposite.
only fools think that way.