Pluto and Surface Air Pressure

[EMH]

In meteorology, we use a gradient function ... and we regularly use this gradient as the vertical dimension, as distance approaches infinity, pressure approaches zero, you know, a gradient ... latitude, longitude and pressure form our Spherical Coordinate System ... makes the first derivatives easier to manage ...

Math is hard, harder if you're a pussy ... oh man it's gets hard ...

Well, for an atmosphere, you really do not need to go to "infinity," just the top of the atmosphere will do...

LOL!!

Did you get an 800 on your Math SAT??

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A taxpayer funded Co2 FRAUD "faux skeptic" is questioning the narrative that

MARS warms when it gets nearer to Sun....

LMFAO!!!







A planet's atmosphere is contained by the planet and hence is in a container, since the air does not escape.

I wish I got paid to point out your idiocy.

Talk about easy money.

A planet's atmosphere is contained by the planet and hence is in a container, since the air does not escape.

When did your brain escape?

 

[EMH]

I wish I got paid to point out your idiocy.

Talk about easy money.

A planet's atmosphere is contained by the planet and hence is in a container, since the air does not escape.

When did your brain escape?

You cannot refute that. Many containers are open at the top. A swimming pool for example....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You cannot refute that. Many containers are open at the top. A swimming pool for example....

Still can't find any southern hemisphere SAP data, can you? DURR

 

[ReinyDays]

Well, for an atmosphere, you really do not need to go to "infinity," just the top of the atmosphere will do...

LOL!!

Did you get an 800 on your Math SAT??

What's the barometric pressure at this "top of atmosphere"? ...

I didn't graduate high school ... I'm a carpenter by trade ... weather has been a lifelong hobby of mine ... and I've taken a class ...

 

[EMH]

What's the barometric pressure at this "top of atmosphere"? ...

I didn't graduate high school ... I'm a carpenter by trade ... weather has been a lifelong hobby of mine ... and I've taken a class ...

The upper limit varies depending on the definition. Various authorities consider it to end at about 10,000 kilometres (6,200 mi)[25] or about 190,000 kilometres (120,000 mi)—about halfway to the moon, where the influence of Earth's gravity is about the same as radiation pressure from sunlight.[24] The geocorona visible in the far ultraviolet (caused by neutral hydrogen) extends to at least 100,000 kilometres (62,000 mi)

The atoms and molecules are so far apart that they can travel hundreds of kilometres without colliding with one another. Thus, the exosphere no longer behaves like a gas,


That's from Google above, so at 120000 miles up, "air pressure" is zero.

 

[EMH]

Still can't find any southern hemisphere SAP data, can you? DURR

So, do you think Kash Patel has any clue why homO went SILENT for two years on the issue of climate change...


???????????????????????????????????


LOL!!!

Google Search

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So, do you think Kash Patel has any clue why homO went SILENT for two years on the issue of climate change...


???????????????????????????????????


LOL!!!

Google Search

Why are you letting homO make you look like an idiot?

Go find the evidence and post it here.

Your non-stop whining just makes you sound like a homo.

You're an idiot homo. A big gay moron.

 

[EMH]

Why are you letting homO make you look like an idiot?

Go find the evidence and post it here.

Your non-stop whining just makes you sound like a homo.

You're an idiot homo. A big gay moron.

You, the American taxpayer, pay "Toddster" to practice climate "science..."


Anyone who still believes Toddster is

1. conservative
2. patriotic to America
3. a "skeptic" of CO2 FRAUD


has an IQ under 5. But here Toddster is pinned, claiming that Surface Air Pressure, just on planet Earth, is "inversely correlated" with temperature, never mind "air pressure" is correlated with temperature everywhere else, including on Mars and Pluto, and the only "evidence" Toddster has is one piece of fudge from the Chairman of the Board of the "Climate Legal Defense Fund"

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You, the American taxpayer, pay "Toddster" to practice climate "science..."


Anyone who still believes Toddster is

1. conservative
2. patriotic to America
3. a "skeptic" of CO2 FRAUD


has an IQ under 5. But here Toddster is pinned, claiming that Surface Air Pressure, just on planet Earth, is "inversely correlated" with temperature, never mind "air pressure" is correlated with temperature everywhere else, including on Mars and Pluto, and the only "evidence" Toddster has is one piece of fudge from the Chairman of the Board of the "Climate Legal Defense Fund"

How much am I being paid to highlight your idiocy?

Are you going to show any point on Earth that sees higher SAP when temperature is higher?
Are you going to show any point on Earth that sees lower SAP when temperature is lower?

"air pressure" is correlated with temperature everywhere else, including on Mars and Pluto

You've yet to show temperature and SAP data on Mars, Pluto or Earth.

 

[EMH]

How much am I being paid to highlight your idiocy?

Are you going to show any point on Earth that sees higher SAP when temperature is higher?
Are you going to show any point on Earth that sees lower SAP when temperature is lower?

"air pressure" is correlated with temperature everywhere else, including on Mars and Pluto

You've yet to show temperature and SAP data on Mars, Pluto or Earth.

At some point one realizes that the opposition is so petty and dishonest....


What has been documented in this topic.

1. Pluto's surface air pressure is correlated with Pluto's temperature, which is inversely correlated with distance from Sun
2. Mars' surface air pressure is correlated with Mars' temperature, which is inversely correlated with distance from Sun
3. Earth surface air pressure rises when Earth is closer to Sun (granted, so far, no data from southern hemisphere)
4. Earth air pressure at any altitude is correlated with temperature per the official formula
5. air pressure is correlated with temperature in every form of air pressure, including surface air pressure
6. the Co2 FRAUD argues that somehow air pressure just at sea level and just on Earth becomes inversely correlated with temperature, and the "evidence" of that is one piece of fudge from WU, founded by the chairman of something called the "Climate Science Legal Defense Fund," because when you fudge data and lie a lot, sometimes you get called into a courtroom to explain
7. Nobody disputes that an ongoing net ice melt on Earth would add gas to atmosphere and raise SAP
8. Earth SAP is on a 70 year slight downtrend, proving Earth is neither warming nor experiencing an ongoing net ice melt, which proves the Co2 FRAUD is completely wrong, and all "evidence of warming" on Earth is 100% pure FUDGED FRAUD... other than Urban Heat Island Effect.


and the response will be but but but what about WU's fudge....


and don't notice

9. Toddster was busted earlier in the topic for posting a FUDGE JOB of Earth SAP that had Earth's highest SAP.... on land over one mile above sea level.... and even Toddster admitted that the greater the altitude, the lower the air pressure.... LOL!! .... so the thread has already proven that


Toddster lies
Toddster either fudges data or has WU fudge data

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

At some point one realizes that the opposition is so petty and dishonest....


What has been documented in this topic.

1. Pluto's surface air pressure is correlated with Pluto's temperature, which is inversely correlated with distance from Sun
2. Mars' surface air pressure is correlated with Mars' temperature, which is inversely correlated with distance from Sun
3. Earth surface air pressure rises when Earth is closer to Sun (granted, so far, no data from southern hemisphere)
4. Earth air pressure at any altitude is correlated with temperature per the official formula
5. air pressure is correlated with temperature in every form of air pressure, including surface air pressure
6. the Co2 FRAUD argues that somehow air pressure just at sea level and just on Earth becomes inversely correlated with temperature, and the "evidence" of that is one piece of fudge from WU, founded by the chairman of something called the "Climate Science Legal Defense Fund," because when you fudge data and lie a lot, sometimes you get called into a courtroom to explain
7. Nobody disputes that an ongoing net ice melt on Earth would add gas to atmosphere and raise SAP
8. Earth SAP is on a 70 year slight downtrend, proving Earth is neither warming nor experiencing an ongoing net ice melt, which proves the Co2 FRAUD is completely wrong, and all "evidence of warming" on Earth is 100% pure FUDGED FRAUD... other than Urban Heat Island Effect.


and the response will be but but but what about WU's fudge....


and don't notice

9. Toddster was busted earlier in the topic for posting a FUDGE JOB of Earth SAP that had Earth's highest SAP.... on land over one mile above sea level.... and even Toddster admitted that the greater the altitude, the lower the air pressure.... LOL!! .... so the thread has already proven that


Toddster lies
Toddster either fudges data or has WU fudge data

You still haven't posted any actual temp vs SAP data from any planet. Pussy.

 

[ReinyDays]

The upper limit varies depending on the definition. Various authorities consider it to end at about 10,000 kilometres (6,200 mi)[25] or about 190,000 kilometres (120,000 mi)—about halfway to the moon, where the influence of Earth's gravity is about the same as radiation pressure from sunlight.[24] The geocorona visible in the far ultraviolet (caused by neutral hydrogen) extends to at least 100,000 kilometres (62,000 mi)

The atoms and molecules are so far apart that they can travel hundreds of kilometres without colliding with one another. Thus, the exosphere no longer behaves like a gas,


That's from Google above, so at 120000 miles up, "air pressure" is zero.

So your claim is halfway to the Moon is an infinite distance? ... what are "various authorities"? ... because Google just repeats what Jews say ... are you sure you want to be supporting Zionism? ... your "various authorities" are violating the 3rd LoT ... pussyclot ... don't they cover this in 4th Grade anymore? ...

[sigh] ...

From NASA:

"Technically, there is no absolute dividing line between the Earth’s atmosphere and space, but for scientists studying the balance of incoming and outgoing energy on the Earth, it is conceptually useful to think of the altitude at about 100 kilometers above the Earth as the “top of the atmosphere.” The top of the atmosphere is the bottom line of Earth’s energy budget, the Grand Central Station of radiation. It is the place where solar energy (mostly visible light) enters the Earth system and where both reflected light and invisible, thermal radiation from the Sun-warmed Earth exit. The balance between incoming and outgoing energy at the top of the atmosphere determines the Earth’s average temperature. The ability of greenhouses gases to change the balance by reducing how much thermal energy exits is what global warming is all about."

[emphasis mine]

NASA entitled to their opinion, and their concern is space ... their definition makes good sense thermodynamically ... see how you always choose Zionist propaganda over good science ...

 

[EMH]

You still haven't posted any actual temp vs SAP data from any planet. Pussy.

My proof doesn't require it. It just requires

Mars warms when closer to Sun - Google
Mars SAP also inversely correlates with distance to Sun
Mars proves SAP is correlated with planetary temperature

You already admitted that if Earth was experiencing an ongoing net ice melt, that would release additional gas into the atmosphere, which would increase SAP. The Co2 FRAUD which employs you says Earth is warming. So if Earth is warming and experiencing an ongoing net ice melt, SAP should be increasing, but isn't, because

EARTH IS NOT WARMING AND NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT

= CO2 FRAUD busted

 

[EMH]

So your claim is halfway to the Moon is an infinite distance?

Nice try, the word "infinite" began in your post, and got refuted...

So your claim is halfway to the Moon is an infinite distance? ... what are "various authorities"? ... because Google just repeats what Jews say ... are you sure you want to be supporting Zionism? ... your "various authorities" are violating the 3rd LoT ... pussyclot ... don't they cover this in 4th Grade anymore? ...

[sigh] ...

From NASA:

"Technically, there is no absolute dividing line between the Earth’s atmosphere and space, but for scientists studying the balance of incoming and outgoing energy on the Earth, it is conceptually useful to think of the altitude at about 100 kilometers above the Earth as the “top of the atmosphere.” The top of the atmosphere is the bottom line of Earth’s energy budget, the Grand Central Station of radiation. It is the place where solar energy (mostly visible light) enters the Earth system and where both reflected light and invisible, thermal radiation from the Sun-warmed Earth exit. The balance between incoming and outgoing energy at the top of the atmosphere determines the Earth’s average temperature. The ability of greenhouses gases to change the balance by reducing how much thermal energy exits is what global warming is all about."

[emphasis mine]

NASA entitled to their opinion, and their concern is space ... their definition makes good sense thermodynamically ... see how you always choose Zionist propaganda over good science ...

Doesn't make any difference.

This topic proves EARTH is neither warming nor experiencing an ongoing net ice melt.

Better start donating to "Climate Science Legal Defense Fund"

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

My proof doesn't require it. It just requires

Mars warms when closer to Sun - Google
Mars SAP also inversely correlates with distance to Sun
Mars proves SAP is correlated with planetary temperature

You already admitted that if Earth was experiencing an ongoing net ice melt, that would release additional gas into the atmosphere, which would increase SAP. The Co2 FRAUD which employs you says Earth is warming. So if Earth is warming and experiencing an ongoing net ice melt, SAP should be increasing, but isn't, because

EARTH IS NOT WARMING AND NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT

= CO2 FRAUD busted

You have literally zero evidence that when it gets warmer on Mars SAP increases.
You have literally zero evidence that when it gets warmer on Pluto SAP increases.

You have no surface temperature readings and SAP readings for the same spot.

Now post some surface temperature readings and SAP readings for the same spot on Earth.

You already admitted that if Earth was experiencing an ongoing net ice melt, that would release additional gas into the atmosphere,

How much gas would be released? Post your calculations.
Then tell me why a warmer temperature would dilute SAP increases.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Earth validates = Jurassic = warmer and higher SAP

You have no such period in Earth history refuting that.

Google Search

The atmospheric pressure during the Jurassic period was likely significantly higher than it is today, at around 3.2–5.0 bar compared to the current 1 bar



That is what happens when Earth has two polar oceans and little to no land near Poles, no or very little ice.






All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase. That is the data... the JURASSIC DATA.... you just do not like it.

Obviously the bottom layers of Antarctic ice are under 2 miles of ice and are compressed to a ridiculous 100+? compression....

All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase. That is the data... the JURASSIC DATA.... you just do not like it.

Diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase.

 

[EMH]

You have literally zero evidence that when it gets warmer on Mars SAP increases.

LOL!!!


This 100% proof...

Mars SAP rises as Mars gets closer to Sun, and falls when further away. The chart upside down would almost perfectly correlate with Mars distance from Sun.

Any idea whether or not CLOSER TO SUN correlates with WARMER PLANET???

LOL!!

You have literally zero evidence that when it gets warmer on Pluto SAP increases.

https://spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov/Pluto/PlutoK.pdf

As Pluto moves away from the Sun, its atmosphere gradually freezes out and falls to the ground. When Pluto is closer to the Sun, the temperature of Pluto's solid surface increases, causing the ices to sublimate into gas.


.... which increases Pluto's SAP....

Diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase.

Yes, the 3 to 5 fold increase in SAP from today to Jurassic is 93% from increased gas and 7% from increased temperature, instead of it all being from increased gas, which you wrongly concluded...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

LOL!!!


This 100% proof...

Mars SAP rises as Mars gets closer to Sun, and falls when further away. The chart upside down would almost perfectly correlate with Mars distance from Sun.

Any idea whether or not CLOSER TO SUN correlates with WARMER PLANET???

LOL!!

https://spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov/Pluto/PlutoK.pdf

As Pluto moves away from the Sun, its atmosphere gradually freezes out and falls to the ground. When Pluto is closer to the Sun, the temperature of Pluto's solid surface increases, causing the ices to sublimate into gas.


.... which increases Pluto's SAP....







Yes, the 3 to 5 fold increase in SAP from today to Jurassic is 93% from increased gas and 7% from increased temperature, instead of it all being from increased gas, which you wrongly concluded...

I didn't see temperatures or SAP readings in that Mars chart. Point them out to me.

As Pluto moves away from the Sun, its atmosphere gradually freezes out and falls to the ground. When Pluto is closer to the Sun, the temperature of Pluto's solid surface increases, causing the ices to sublimate into gas.

Exactly. Now why is that even the tiniest bit like Earth?

Yes, the 3 to 5 fold increase in SAP from today to Jurassic is 93% from increased gas and 7% from increased temperature,

When you said warmer temps diluted the increase in SAP you meant magnified
the increase in SAP? Wow!

You get dumber and dumber.

And still no evidence that 2 to 4 times the gas in our current atmosphere is
trapped in ice. Try harder, pussy.

 

[ReinyDays]

Nice try, the word "infinite" began in your post, and got refuted...

"Approaching infinity" is allowed ... using a basic epsilon/delta proof ...

Doesn't make any difference.

This topic proves EARTH is neither warming nor experiencing an ongoing net ice melt.

Better start donating to "Climate Science Legal Defense Fund"

You claim the atmosphere is "contained" somehow halfway to the Moon ... and without citation ... if pressure is zero, what force are you relying on to form this "container"? ... other than magical "heat" forces ...

The Jews at NASA support my contention that an increase in temperature causes and increase in volume ... not pressure ... per Charles' Law ... put a pot of water on your stove and have mommy turn on the burner ... as temperature increases, does the water pressure increase or does the water expand? ...