Pluto and Surface Air Pressure

[ding]

(mass of gas column pulled down by planet's gravity) x (a planetary coefficient) x (temperature)

Can you show me what the units are for each of these terms?

 

[ding]

And "force of air" increases with temperature

Incorrect. The atmosphere is not a fixed volume.

 

[EMH]

And mass depends on the molar composition of the fluid, right?

air not fluid, but certainly the calc is more complex for Earth than Pluto, which is just N gas.

 

[EMH]

Incorrect. The atmosphere is not a fixed volume.

Neither is a tire.

But heat in air is speed/force of molecules colliding, and the more/faster the collisions, the more the force of the air pressure in every circumstance.

 

[ding]

air not fluid, but certainly the calc is more complex for Earth than Pluto, which is just N gas.

Air is a fluid, dummy. Fluids are gases and liquids because they flow. Fluids flow.

Fluid density is calculated the same way no matter where it's at.

 

[ding]

Neither is a tire.

But heat in air is speed/force of molecules colliding, and the more/faster the collisions, the more the force of the air pressure in every circumstance.

If the volume of the atmosphere is not fixed then adding fluid to the atmosphere does not necessarily increase pressure.

 

[EMH]

If the volume of the atmosphere is not fixed then adding fluid to the atmosphere does not necessarily increase pressure.

For a tire it is the rim (rigid) and the tire (elastically constrained).

For a planet it is the surface (rigid) and the top of the atmosphere (force constrained by gravity)


In both cases, the volume is not fixed, but

1. increasing temperature increases pressure as well as volume
2. adding gas molecules increases pressure as well as volume

 

[ding]

For a tire it is the rim (rigid) and the tire (elastically constrained).

For a planet it is the surface (rigid) and the top of the atmosphere (force constrained by gravity)


In both cases, the volume is not fixed, but

1. increasing temperature increases pressure as well as volume
2. adding gas molecules increases pressure as well as volume

No. Increasing temperature does not necessarily increase pressure. If you increase temperature and there is no added water vapor (which is unlikely) the gas molecules will spread out and decrease the amount of mass in the unit volume which results in a lower pressure. If you increase temperature and water vapor is added to the the unit volume the added water vapor displaces the heavier dry air in the unit volume and you get an even greater decrease in pressure.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The skateboard on Mars completely refutes you.

Post the skateboard on Earth that refutes me.

 

[EMH]

Post the skateboard on Earth that refutes me.

The unfudged northern hemisphere data refutes you. Only fudge from WU supports you, which is typical for Co2 FRAUD.

 

[EMH]

If you increase temperature and there is no added water vapor (which is unlikely) the gas molecules will spread out and decrease the amount of mass in the unit volume which results in a lower pressure

That's complete BS. Fill a ziplock bag with room temperature air. Put it in freezer. Bag volume decreases BECAUSE pressure decreases.

 

[ding]

That's complete BS. Fill a ziplock bag with room temperature air. Put it in freezer. Bag volume decreases BECAUSE pressure decreases.

The atmosphere is not a fixed volume. Try googling it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The unfudged northern hemisphere data refutes you. Only fudge from WU supports you, which is typical for Co2 FRAUD.

Post some unfudged data already you nutty twat.

 

[ReinyDays]

Post some unfudged data already you nutty twat.

I'm still waiting for the 19th Century satellite temperature data ... ha ha ha ...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm still waiting for the 19th Century satellite temperature data ... ha ha ha ...

The Jews are hiding it from poor EMH.

And his dentures and his Thorazine.

 

[ReinyDays]

Just look for equilibrium between hypercanes and fudge ... crazy gotta be crazy ... on both sides of the equation ...

 

[EMH]

What is truly funny here is that, while data on Earth SAP is hard to find, the data from Mars has been up for years, and hence cannot be fudged and hidden.

What Mars reveals is that SAP is very much correlated with temperature. Mars gets closer to Sun, SAP rises.


The Co2 FRAUD claims Earth is warming and experiencing an ongoing net ice melt. None of these taxpayer funded Co2 FRAUD employees above can dispute that if what the Co2 FRAUD claims is true, then SAP should be rising, but it isn't, it is actually slightly dropping...

which proves

EARTH IS NOT WARMING
EARTH IS NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is truly funny here is that, while data on Earth SAP is hard to find, the data from Mars has been up for years, and hence cannot be fudged and hidden.

What Mars reveals is that SAP is very much correlated with temperature. Mars gets closer to Sun, SAP rises.


The Co2 FRAUD claims Earth is warming and experiencing an ongoing net ice melt. None of these taxpayer funded Co2 FRAUD employees above can dispute that if what the Co2 FRAUD claims is true, then SAP should be rising, but it isn't, it is actually slightly dropping...

which proves

EARTH IS NOT WARMING
EARTH IS NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT

while data on Earth SAP is hard to find,

Liar.

Mars gets closer to Sun, SAP rises.

Now show what happens to SAP in Chicago when the Earth gets closer to the Sun.

 

[EMH]

Now show what happens to SAP in Chicago when the Earth gets closer to the Sun.

That's northern hemisphere, moron...

From Google...

In the winter, the average surface air pressure in the Northern Hemisphere is typically higher than in the summer


When Earth is in its winter season (Northern Hemisphere), it is closer to the sun, at a point called perihelion, which occurs around early January; while in summer, Earth is furthest from the sun, at a point called aphelion, occurring around early July;

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's northern hemisphere, moron...

From Google...

In the winter, the average surface air pressure in the Northern Hemisphere is typically higher than in the summer


When Earth is in its winter season (Northern Hemisphere), it is closer to the sun, at a point called perihelion, which occurs around early January; while in summer, Earth is furthest from the sun, at a point called aphelion, occurring around early July;

From Google...

In the winter, the average surface air pressure in the Northern Hemisphere is typically higher than in the summer

Now ask Google why that's the case.

And then show that your claim is also true for the Southern Hemisphere.