Planned Parenthood: False Allegations and the Clown Car

[Hutch Starskey]

I have no problem with public funds being used for public health.

Of course not, you're a socialist. Using your own money for what you believe in is inconceivable to you.

And they aren't "public funds," they were earned by someone and they aren't given to the public, they are given to specific people

Public funds are public funds. I'm pretty sure that there are enough taxpaying supporters to cover it. It's in everyone's interest to track , treat and prevent the spread of disease, especially among the most vulnerable populations. There are obvious holes in the system that can only be filled with public funding. It's a dream to think what is currently being accomplished can be done solely through private funding, if it were possible it would already be happening.

So you care, but not enough to pay for it yourself. Typical liberal

You have no idea whatsoever what I support or don't support.
It's in everyone's interest to track, treat and prevents disease just as roads, bridges and schools are. It's a public good.

You just said you don't want to pay for it, dumb ass, you said you want other people to. The only way that I don't know your position on that is if you don't know your position on that since I was addressing what you said.

And again, a lame liberal who when I object to government wealth redistribution goes to roads and bridges, which are not wealth redistribution. You want roads, kaz? Do you? Well, then you get MARXISM. So shut up.

Yeah, you are content challenged. Address my points on wealth redistribution with wealth redistribution, Holmes, not roads

You are dishonest. I said no such thing.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A " significant majority" is too ignorant to understand that PP prevents more abortions than it performs.

Um...how do you figure that?

Most objections to PP are over their abortion services without understanding that they prevent more abortions than provide.

still waiting for you to prove that claim.

Do you believe that PP prevents more abortions than it performs?
If so why then would you want to eliminate the gains made with public funding?

You got nothing for his question, huh. You can't prove anything

It's all over the thread moron. You just quoted my post saying that no one disputes the percentage of services and here you are supporting your retarded brother asking for proof of percentages. You truly are retarded.

 

[Derideo_Te]

A " significant majority" is too ignorant to understand that PP prevents more abortions than it performs.

Um...how do you figure that?

Most objections to PP are over their abortion services without understanding that they prevent more abortions than provide.

still waiting for you to prove that claim.

Since they provide cheap to free birth control, they help prevent millions of unwanted pregnancies that would likely become abortions. If you do not understand that, then there is no hope for you.

the claim was they prevented more abortions than they performed. I merely asked for proof of that claim.

For you to say that you think thats true, does not make it true.

Once again braindeadfish proves why he deserves the title.

If contraception didn't work why would anyone still be using it?

The fact is that contraception does work...and PP provides contraception to poor women thereby eliminating unnecessary abortions.

The lies in the OP about PP are what you believe.

 

[kaz]

Of course not, you're a socialist. Using your own money for what you believe in is inconceivable to you.

And they aren't "public funds," they were earned by someone and they aren't given to the public, they are given to specific people

Public funds are public funds. I'm pretty sure that there are enough taxpaying supporters to cover it. It's in everyone's interest to track , treat and prevent the spread of disease, especially among the most vulnerable populations. There are obvious holes in the system that can only be filled with public funding. It's a dream to think what is currently being accomplished can be done solely through private funding, if it were possible it would already be happening.

So you care, but not enough to pay for it yourself. Typical liberal

You have no idea whatsoever what I support or don't support.
It's in everyone's interest to track, treat and prevents disease just as roads, bridges and schools are. It's a public good.

You just said you don't want to pay for it, dumb ass, you said you want other people to. The only way that I don't know your position on that is if you don't know your position on that since I was addressing what you said.

And again, a lame liberal who when I object to government wealth redistribution goes to roads and bridges, which are not wealth redistribution. You want roads, kaz? Do you? Well, then you get MARXISM. So shut up.

Yeah, you are content challenged. Address my points on wealth redistribution with wealth redistribution, Holmes, not roads

You are dishonest. I said no such thing.

I quoted you, how stupid are you? You said you are fine with taxpayers paying for PP rather than you

 

[BlueGin]

Through the ACA you can get contraception from your OBGYN.

 

[Synthaholic]

This reminds me of the PP hoax, and the Right-Wing Media:

Kinda like in the 90's when liberals said a blow job wasn't sex?

A blowjob is sex? How about licking a tit? Is that sex, too?

Sexual harrassment?

How is it harassment when it's consensual?

It's amusing how conservatives desperately are trying to change the subject from the failed PP hoax to Bill and Monica's consensual relationship.

 

[Derideo_Te]

97 of Planned Parenthood s work is mammograms preventive care O Malley says PolitiFact

"Here’s the breakdown from the annual report:

Abortions: 327,653

Sexually transmitted infection/disease testing and treatment: 4,470,597

Contraception: 3,577,348

Cancer screening and prevention: 935,573

Pregnancy tests: 1,128,783

Prenatal services: 18,684

Family practice services: 65,464

Adoption referrals: 1,880

Urinary tract infection treatments: 47,264

Other: 17,187

Based on this list, it’s accurate that abortion procedures only count for 3 percent of all services provided, meaning 97 percent of the services Planned Parenthood provides are other forms of reproductive and primary care. By far, contraception and STI/STD testing and treatment are the most frequented services."

PP provides 10 times more contraception than abortions.

 

[Synthaholic]

So you don't think oral sex is sex?

I'm asking. Is licking a tit sex?

 

[Synthaholic]

Through the ACA you can get contraception from your OBGYN.

PP performed over 4100 vasectomies last year, which prevented thousands of abortions.

Will you be donating to them for saving fetal lives that would have been aborted?

 

[BlueGin]

Through the ACA you can get contraception from your OBGYN.

PP performed over 4100 vasectomies last year, which prevented thousands of abortions.

Will you be donating to them for saving fetal lives that would have been aborted?

You can get vasectomies through ACA affiliated doctors also.

I'm tapped out with the United Way and Wounded Warriors. But feel free to send PP a check.

 

[kaz]

So you don't think oral sex is sex?

I'm asking. Is licking a tit sex?

He got a Monica, Holmes, what difference does your question make?

 

[BlueGin]

This reminds me of the PP hoax, and the Right-Wing Media:

Kinda like in the 90's when liberals said a blow job wasn't sex?

A blowjob is sex? How about licking a tit? Is that sex, too?

Sexual harrassment?

How is it harassment when it's consensual?

It's amusing how conservatives desperately are trying to change the subject from the failed PP hoax to Bill and Monica's consensual relationship.

Well if it's consensual .... Then it's sex. Way to answer your own question there dumbass.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Libs and their arguments crack me up.

You tell them Obamacare will close down the free clinics. They throw a fit and yell at you for spreading fear tactics. Free clinics close.

Then when they have no argument for continuing government funding of PP. Now They want to cry that the poor still can't utilize Obamacare where they live and they still need free clinics (that closed due to the ACA) and PP.

Sorry... You can't have it both ways.

What are we paying for then assholes??

Actually, being a liberal is all about being able to have it both ways. They promise them that in the marketing literature. Never have to explain your double standards and hypocrisies again! Join the Democratic party!

So, you espouse Libertarianism but always seem to excuse the Republican Party. Why is that? Do you believe the R's are more in tune with Libertarians?

 

[Redfish]

Ok, lets go slow. If you pay no taxes and pay nothing for your medical care-----------is it free to you?

again, its a yes or no question.

Unless you're a big job creating company like Apple it's impossible to go through life without paying taxes (even if it's just a sales tax when you buy something).

But for the sake of argument, yes, in that case it would be free. Allthough that doesn't matter because the other 99.9999999999% of the population do pay taxes and the government should provide healthcare to everyone. It's simply a human right the way I see it.

We are talking about federal income taxes. Why is that so hard for you libs to comprehend? Obozocare is a federal program funded with federal tax receipts. Since 47% of the population pays no federal income taxes and gets their obozocare policies free: then those people are getting it FREE.

Now, since I pay federal income taxes. I am paying for part of YOUR medical care. Now, explain why that is my responsibility to provide for your medical care.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Public funds are public funds. I'm pretty sure that there are enough taxpaying supporters to cover it. It's in everyone's interest to track , treat and prevent the spread of disease, especially among the most vulnerable populations. There are obvious holes in the system that can only be filled with public funding. It's a dream to think what is currently being accomplished can be done solely through private funding, if it were possible it would already be happening.

So you care, but not enough to pay for it yourself. Typical liberal

You have no idea whatsoever what I support or don't support.
It's in everyone's interest to track, treat and prevents disease just as roads, bridges and schools are. It's a public good.

You just said you don't want to pay for it, dumb ass, you said you want other people to. The only way that I don't know your position on that is if you don't know your position on that since I was addressing what you said.

And again, a lame liberal who when I object to government wealth redistribution goes to roads and bridges, which are not wealth redistribution. You want roads, kaz? Do you? Well, then you get MARXISM. So shut up.

Yeah, you are content challenged. Address my points on wealth redistribution with wealth redistribution, Holmes, not roads

You are dishonest. I said no such thing.

I quoted you, how stupid are you? You said you are fine with taxpayers paying for PP rather than you

You did not quote me liar.
That is not what I said liar. Misrepresenting the words of posters is just douchey.
I used to think you had decent points, but now I see you are just a hack.

I said I'm fine with public funding of public health. I in no way said I wouldn't donate. I said you can't presume to know who I support or don't.

 

[Redfish]

A significant majority do.....

A " significant majority" is too ignorant to understand that PP prevents more abortions than it performs.

Um...how do you figure that?

Most objections to PP are over their abortion services without understanding that they prevent more abortions than provide.

still waiting for you to prove that claim.

Do you believe that PP prevents more abortions than it performs?
If so why then would you want to eliminate the gains made with public funding?

Passing out condoms and BC pills may prevent pregnancies. Are you saying that every unintentional pregnancy would result in an abortion?

 

[Wry Catcher]

This reminds me of the PP hoax, and the Right-Wing Media:

Kinda like in the 90's when liberals said a blow job wasn't sex?

A blowjob is sex? How about licking a tit? Is that sex, too?

So you don't think oral sex is sex? You have never gotten a BJ...

Here is the definition used of sex for Clinton:

"For the purposes of this deposition, a person engages in sexual relations when the person knowingly engages in or causes:

1. Contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;
2. Contact between any part of the person's body or an object and the genitals or anus of another person; or
3. Contact between the genitals or anus of the person and any part of another person's body.

Contact means intentional touching, either directly or through clothing."

And you don't think Slick didn't engage in that?

Sadly for President Clinton, he's the only man to have ever cheated on his wife; the only man in a position of power to ever be tempted by a younger women, the only man in America, elected to office, who ever cheated on his wife.

Thankfully he wasn't a wrestling coach who fucked one of his students, otherwise the Crazy Right Wing would still be bringing that up decades later. Oh, yeah they do, and they forget to bring up the republican pervert.

 

[Wry Catcher]

So you care, but not enough to pay for it yourself. Typical liberal

You have no idea whatsoever what I support or don't support.
It's in everyone's interest to track, treat and prevents disease just as roads, bridges and schools are. It's a public good.

You just said you don't want to pay for it, dumb ass, you said you want other people to. The only way that I don't know your position on that is if you don't know your position on that since I was addressing what you said.

And again, a lame liberal who when I object to government wealth redistribution goes to roads and bridges, which are not wealth redistribution. You want roads, kaz? Do you? Well, then you get MARXISM. So shut up.

Yeah, you are content challenged. Address my points on wealth redistribution with wealth redistribution, Holmes, not roads

You are dishonest. I said no such thing.

I quoted you, how stupid are you? You said you are fine with taxpayers paying for PP rather than you

That is not what I said liar. Misrepresenting the words of posters is just douchey.
I used to think you had decent points, but now I see you are just a hack.

I said I'm fine with public funding of public health. I in no way said I wouldn't donate. I said you can't presume to know who I support or don't.

Kaz has a room full of straw, he uses it every day to prove absolutely nothing.

 

[Redfish]

This reminds me of the PP hoax, and the Right-Wing Media:

Kinda like in the 90's when liberals said a blow job wasn't sex?

A blowjob is sex? How about licking a tit? Is that sex, too?

So you don't think oral sex is sex? You have never gotten a BJ...

Here is the definition used of sex for Clinton:

"For the purposes of this deposition, a person engages in sexual relations when the person knowingly engages in or causes:

1. Contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;
2. Contact between any part of the person's body or an object and the genitals or anus of another person; or
3. Contact between the genitals or anus of the person and any part of another person's body.

Contact means intentional touching, either directly or through clothing."

And you don't think Slick didn't engage in that?

Sadly for President Clinton, he's the only man to have ever cheated on his wife; the only man in a position of power to ever be tempted by a younger women, the only man in America, elected to office, who ever cheated on his wife.

Thankfully he wasn't a wrestling coach who fucked one of his students, otherwise the Crazy Right Wing would still be bringing that up decades later. Oh, yeah they do, and they forget to bring up the republican pervert.

He is the only one to do it in the oval office of the whitehouse. Thats what makes it significant and morally bankrupt.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A " significant majority" is too ignorant to understand that PP prevents more abortions than it performs.

Um...how do you figure that?

Most objections to PP are over their abortion services without understanding that they prevent more abortions than provide.

still waiting for you to prove that claim.

Do you believe that PP prevents more abortions than it performs?
If so why then would you want to eliminate the gains made with public funding?

Passing out condoms and BC pills may prevent pregnancies. Are you saying that every unintentional pregnancy would result in an abortion?

Not at all.