Pitbulls and Cats

[ChristisKing]

Sort of like saying a lot of black people are violent but that doesn't mean that they all are.

 

[Leo123]

From what I have heard, never get a 'rescue' pit bull because it has likely been trained to fight. I would get a puppy and raise it with the cat. My neighbor has 2 pit bulls and they are good dogs.

 

[Leo123]

Sort of like saying a lot of black people are violent but that doesn't mean that they all are.

My Chihuahua has never bitten anyone but likes to put on a good show. She's not an ankle-biter though.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

From what I have heard, never get a 'rescue' pit bull because it has likely been trained to fight. I would get a puppy and raise it with the cat. My neighbor has 2 pit bulls and they are good dogs.

Yes and no......I agree you are taking chances with a rescue, but I can't help but say there are too many passed over at shelters, just because of their breed and the fear of them. Not all shelter Pits have ever been a fighter. Especially if a female. They are kept for breeding litter after litter. And some males are used as bait dogs.......because they don't have fighter qualities. But I will say before ever considering getting a shelter Pit, find out as much as you possibly can about that particular dog's history, do a ton of research about how to work with any potential problems that may come up, how to defuse those problems and take extra care of any situation you may put the dog in, that could trigger a problem. Most people aren't willing to do all that and want instant lap dog.

 

[toobfreak]

These dogs (Pits) or any dog??? Even a Chihuahua can bite your jugular and kill you, though less likely to happen.

Not sure your question, but obviously, how and where you bite is at least as important as how hard you bite. If you bite my shin, it will hurt but you will hit all bone. Bite me in the throat though is a different situation.

And no, I don't fear a chihuahua, I'm a big guy (tall and big enough that in college they were interested in me as a linebacker or maybe tight end), and a skilled fighter who is usually armed. I've never met any dog I was afraid of. I've had attack dogs come at me and I stopped them and backed them off, giving second thought to the affair, and I never even laid a hand on them.

Most likely if a dog attacks me, someone is gonna have a very dead dog. If a dog lunges up at me looking to attack, I would not hesitate to go for a kill shot; I do not fool around. Too bad for the dog.

 

[Leo123]

Not sure your question, but obviously, how and where you bite is at least as important as how hard you bite. If you bite my shin, it will hurt but you will hit all bone. Bite me in the throat though is a different situation.

And no, I don't fear a chihuahua, I'm a big guy (tall and big enough that in college they were interested in me as a linebacker or maybe tight end), and a skilled fighter who is usually armed. I've never met any dog I was afraid of. I've had attack dogs come at me and I stopped them and backed them off, giving second thought to the affair, and I never even laid a hand on them.

Most likely if a dog attacks me, someone is gonna have a very dead dog. If a dog lunges up at me looking to attack, I would not hesitate to go for a kill shot; I do not fool around. Too bad for the dog.

As a retired property appraiser, I learned to be wary of pets. I had to inspect both inside the home and outside. I learned never to be alone outside with a pet dog without the owner. Most of the time the clients were nice enough to lock the dog up when I arrived. I never got bit and met hundreds of dogs.

 

[BULLDOG]

I was just wondering does anybody here have at least one Pitbull and one cat? The place I currently live I cannot keep a Pitbull, but I have a cat and hopefully I am moving soon to where I would be allowed to keep one. The only thing is that I don't want my kitty to get hurt.



Especially since she didn't grow up with one and I'm afraid that she might accidentally set the dog off. One of my old neighbors even had a cat that was killed by a Pitbull so trust me I've heard the horror stories even though I really love Pitties. Does anybody know if a cat and a rescue Pittie could actually live a happy life together?

Pitts are gentle and playful, and an all round great pet to have, until one day something happens in his head and he will kill anybody or anything near by. It's tough if he just kills a cat, but worse if he kills the little girl next door. Either are in constant danger from a dog that was bred for such aggression.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Not sure your question, but obviously, how and where you bite is at least as important as how hard you bite. If you bite my shin, it will hurt but you will hit all bone. Bite me in the throat though is a different situation.

And no, I don't fear a chihuahua, I'm a big guy (tall and big enough that in college they were interested in me as a linebacker or maybe tight end), and a skilled fighter who is usually armed. I've never met any dog I was afraid of. I've had attack dogs come at me and I stopped them and backed them off, giving second thought to the affair, and I never even laid a hand on them.

Most likely if a dog attacks me, someone is gonna have a very dead dog. If a dog lunges up at me looking to attack, I would not hesitate to go for a kill shot; I do not fool around. Too bad for the dog.

It is not just about bite strength but obviously how and where these dogs bite you.


This comment of yours, I was referring too as you'd said 'these' dogs, indicating Pit Bulls and my question was more of a type of answer, that any dog, given the wrong situation and opportunity, could bite and possibly kill you, regardless of breed.

 

[BULLDOG]

It's sort of funny how with everything else it's we shouldn't believe what the media tells us, but when it comes to Pitbulls they're automatically vicious creatures.

Pittbulls are vicious creatures. It's sometimes difficult to tell when he will be vicious.

 

[toobfreak]

As a retired property appraiser, I learned to be wary of pets. I had to inspect both inside the home and outside. I learned never to be alone outside with a pet dog without the owner. Most of the time the clients were nice enough to lock the dog up when I arrived. I never got bit and met hundreds of dogs.

Dogs are usually good once they see their owner accepts you too. But like you say, you never know, a dog CAN turn on you and with some dogs, their attacks can be very sudden and serious.

Cats are a different matter. No one breeds cats to be killers. Nothing smaller than a Puma gets my attention in the cat world.

 

[Natural Citizen]

PSI for a Kengal is 743, Rottweiler is 328, American Bulldog (not a Pit) is 305, German Shepherd is 238 and American Pit Bull is 235 that puts it more in the middle of the PSI scale for bite strength. T

I've had incompetent owners leave their pit bull off-leash when I happened to pass by with my Turkish Kangal on our evening walk.

The pit bull immediately took off running toward my Kangal to the middle of the street and he was looking for a fight.

So I was..alright, here we go, I guess.

So I dropped the leash and the pit went right for my Kangal's belly. But he didnlt get that far before he got snatched up by the neck and shook around for a few seconds.

Needless to say the little shit went yelping back to his screaming, out-of-control owner with its tail between its legs.

The humans are the ones who need to be trained and qualified....

 

[The Irish Ram]

Again have you ever actually met a Pitbull in real life? Please answer honestly.

I have. And no way would I take on the liability of a dog with such a bad reputation when there are so many breeds that are safer.

American pit bull terriers are considered some of the most dangerous dogs due to the high number of incidents involving this breed. Dog bite statistics show that pit bulls are responsible for over 60 percent of all fatal dog attacks in the U.S.
Rotties are the 2nd most dangerous, accounting for 10% of fatal attacks.
Look at the difference between the two.
Are you willing to overlook the data in order to own a breed that kills people? Do you know how many people died from Irish Setter attacks? 0.

 

[ChristisKing]

I have. And no way would I take on the liability of a dog with such a bad reputation when there are so many breeds that are safer.

Okay so have you actually ever seen or heard about one that you know/knew personally attacking anybody?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Even a Chihuahua can bite your jugular and kill you, though less likely to happen

They are snippy little creatures, and yappy. Everyone had to have one because Paris Hilton had one in her purse. The love affair faded fast, and the shelters were filled with them.

 

[toobfreak]

pit bulls are responsible for over 60 percent of all fatal dog attacks in the U.S.
Rotties are the 2nd most dangerous, accounting for 10% of fatal attacks.

And interestingly enough, Rotts have a stronger bite pressure potential, so obviously, dangerous dogs are about more than just how HARD they can bite.

Some dogs can jump 6' in the air and be in your face or at your throat in an instant, and once they got you, you are not getting away.

 

[Yarddog]

I don't move a lot just planning on moving soon. I did twice when I was a kid and I haven't had a dog since I was a young adult. As for Pitbulls, I love the breed because I've volunteered walking them before and I love the neighborhood Pits. I just don't know much about owning one I have to admit.

another thing to keep in mind when having a Pit is if you ever plan on going on vactations, it IS much harder to find people to watch them for you, unless you want to pay for boarding. It might be usful to find out if you can have "pit bull support" before you make the leap. I dont know your situation but it would be helpful to have a large extended family around who are on board with the dog. And actually it is good that they are very socialized with other people anyways so that they don't see others as threats.

Also, they do shed a lot and those little tiny hairs get EVERYWHERE.... you have to be good with that or else you might resent it. You do have to truely be a dog person to own a Pit.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

They are snippy little creatures, and yappy. Everyone had to have one because Paris Hilton had one in her purse. The love affair faded fast, and the shelters were filled with them.

Agreed and they are annoying little buggers too........and similar can be said for Pit Bulls.......everyone had to have one because they want to look or be tough for owning such a dog OR to put it in the fighting ring OR unsuspecting people had to have a pit to rescue it from the horrors they've been put thru and give it a loving home without considering the actual dog or breed characteristics or how long it can take to defuse & rehab them....then wonder why the dog bit their kid when the kid stepped on it's tail or some other incident.......and when the dog has worn out it's welcome in those situations, they fill the shelters.

In any of those situations, whether with pits or chihuahuas or any other breed........the problem is not the dog, but negligent owners that create 'bad dogs'.


Too many people think a Pittie can just wake up one day and become a Kujo man killing machine. NO they don't, neither does any other dog breed. Somewhere, there are reasons for it and 99% of the time has to do with the owner.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

I've had incompetent owners leave their pit bull off-leash when I happened to pass by with my Turkish Kangal on our evening walk.

The pit bull immediately took off running toward my Kangal to the middle of the street and he was looking for a fight.

So I was..alright, here we go, I guess.

So I dropped the leash and the pit went right for my Kangal's belly. But he didnlt get that far before he got snatched up by the neck and shook around for a few seconds.

Needless to say the little shit went yelping back to his screaming, out-of-control owner with its tail between its legs.

The humans are the ones who need to be trained and qualified....

Yes, Pits are often dog aggressive and that needs to be considered when taking a pit in public.


Very much agreed humans need the training more than the dogs


Glad both dogs weren't hurt and hopefully both the pit and the owner learned a lesson

 

[toobfreak]

Agreed and they are annoying little buggers too........and similar can be said for Pit Bulls.......

Chihuahuas seem like nervous dogs. I guess I'd be nervous too if I was so small and some freaking lady with pink hair was carrying me around all day.

I was kind of surprised to realize that General Patton had a kind of pitt bull terrier back when he was running WWII.

In any of those situations, whether with pits or chihuahuas or any other breed........the problem is not the dog, but negligent owners that create 'bad dogs'. Too many people think a Pittie can just wake up one day and become a Kujo man killing machine. NO they don't, neither does any other dog breed. Somewhere, there are reasons for it and 99% of the time has to do with the owner.

Another interesting point. Some time back I was watching a science documentary on PBS and it involved acquired behavior in dogs. The took about 20 dogs all of the same age and types, and put them in two rows. On the one side, they repeatedly exposed the dogs to one kind of behavior while the other side received totally different behavior.

After less time than one might expect, they had two opposite animals--- one extremely docile and the other side completely opposite. Mankind has literally taken the last 20,000 years slowly breeding wolves into being the perfect companion animal in about 50-100 different forms to fit most any need or taste.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We have a pitbull and 4 cats. Sometimes those cats can be mean.