Pigs Will Fly Before Parasites Become Producers

Flanders

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Dr. Robert R. Owens’ great piece titled When the Have Nots Become the Haves opens with this:

Saul Alinsky the political thinker who seems to have had more impact on President Obama than any other was very clear in his most important book about what his motives were and what he was aiming at, “What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. ‘The Prince’ was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. ‘Rules for Radicals’ is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.”

When the Have Nots Become the Haves
By Dr. Robert R. Owens Saturday, October 26, 2013

When the Have Nots Become the Haves

Substitute the words producers and parasites for the words “Haves” and “Have-Nots” and you’ll see that Alinsky conned everyone into believing that parasites would magically morph into producers after they seized power with Alinsky lies, doublespeak, misdirection, intimidation, violence and threats of violence.

Far from being the political genius Hillary Clinton swoons over, Alinsky did nothing more than write an instruction book for implementing Socialism/Communism. Following Alinsky’s instructions to a tee, the final stage of 19th century Socialism/Communism is being codified by Barack Taqiyya & Company.

Forget Alinsky for a minute. Socialism/Communism itself is so easily discredited I’m astonished at how far Socialists have come. Bear with me as I reach back in time to make my case.

Admittedly, attributing the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire to lead poisoning is only a theory:


The hypothesis has been proposed before, but Dr. Nriagu marshaled more evidence of the gout-lead poisoning link in explaining Rome's supposedly terminal affliction. Dr. Nriagu, who is on the staff of the National Water Research Institute in Burlington, Ontario, is writing a book on the subject.

Not only did the Romans drink legendary amounts of wine, he noted, but they flavored their wines with a syrup made from simmered grape juice that was brewed in lead pots. The syrup was also used as a sweetener in many recipes favored by Roman gourmands.

''One teaspoon of such syrup would have been more than enough to cause chronic lead poisoning,'' Dr. Nriagu said.

ROMAN EMPIRE'S FALL IS LINKED WITH GOUT AND LEAD POISONING
By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Published: March 17, 1983

ROMAN EMPIRE'S FALL IS LINKED WITH GOUT AND LEAD POISONING - NYTimes.com

Interpreting the decline and fall of the Roman Empire most often depended upon who was doing the interpreting. Priesthoods blamed it on a loss of morality. Military minds said that hiring mercenaries was responsible for the fall. Philosophical interpretations of anything always send up warning flares.

NOTE: American Socialists want our military to fight and die in foreign lands for philosophical reasons.

I place no faith in philosophical autopsies performed on long dead empires, but I am partial to lead poison explaining the decline and fall of the Roman Empire because it is a legitimate scientific inquiry searching for proof.

Except for the Roman Empire, empires in the ancient world usually disappeared because they were conquered. To me, the critical factor is that the Roman Empire was not conquered, but it did decline very rapidly because of lead poisoning.

The impoverished could not afford expensive lead-laden wines and food. Those Romans who governed the empire died off too quickly for the materially disadvantaged to govern a complex society, let alone hold onto a far-reaching empire. Put that in perspective by evaluating today’s Democrats and their contribution to America’s shrinking worldwide political empire. Democrats are the ones who wailed that America was losing respect in the world under Bush, yet philosophical “respect” pales in comparison to the real losses America’s foreign policy is causing under Socialism.

Also, I recall reading that the lead poisoning theory was strengthened by examining the skeletal remains of those Romans who died before, during, and after the Empire’s period of rapid decline. The graves of those Romans who were solvent on the day they checked out yielded an extraordinary number of skeletons whose original owners had died from lead poisoning during the time period in question. The bones exhumed from the graves of those Romans who were less than fortunate in life did not show signs of lead poisoning.

Whether or not the lead poison theory is provable is irrelevant. The result of the Roman Empire’s decline and fall is indisputable. Parasites do not become producers any more than did those ancient Romans who inherited political power by accident.

Rapid decline

Perhaps accelerated decline is more apt to America than rapid decline in the case of the Roman Empire. America has been declining since the day Socialism took root in this country in the late 19th century. The decline proceeded at a slow pace after 1913 due, in large part, to Socialist-strategists being satisfied with small steps.

The major difference between Socialism and Communism is that 19th century Socialists set out to acquire political power incrementally, while Communists always preferred violent revolution. I believe that Socialists preferred incrementalism because it gave them time to teach parasites how to govern.

Parenthetically, in 1994, the Clintons tried and failed to take a big step with HillaryCare. When Hillary ran for office she whitewashed the evils inherent in socialized medicine by scurrying back to the safety of incrementalism as though evil in small doses is good:


Now I’m from the school of smaller steps, but I believe we must continue to make progress. Hillary Clinton

Events in the past five years tell me that today’s Socialist-strategists believe that parasites are prepared to govern. Or perhaps signs of a violent counterrevolution makes incrementalism’s time table too risky. Pelosi, Reid, Taqiyya, and the rest of them took so many big steps toward totalitarian in five years America’s decline accelerated to warp speed. That brings me back to Alinsky via Joe Wilson:

On September 9, 2009, Joe Wilson, Congressman from South Carolina, shouted "You lie!" when President Obama was touting the benefits of his Affordable Care Act, now dubbed "Obamacare." Many in America were shocked that anyone would call the President of the United States a liar in such a forum as a presidential address to a joint session of Congress.

But, now, as we look back on 5 years of Barack Obama, we see that Obama and his Administration do lie. And they lie a lot.

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To my knowledge, the only truth that Obama has ever uttered is that "He would fundamentally change America."

And he is doing just that with lies and deceit.

Read Kline’s article for a list of the most egregious lies:

October 26, 2013
Rep. Joe Wilson Vindicated
Richard Kline

Blog: Rep. Joe Wilson Vindicated

Finally, parasites feasting at the public larder had more to do with bringing down every civilization, every empire, every country, every culture, than did any other factor. America will be no different.
 
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I suspect most Republicans are parasites. Otherwise they would stop trying to bribe billionaires into creating jobs. Instead, they could go to school and become qualified for something. Anything.
 
Can we all (with the possible exclusion of the low information left) admit that government programs do not grow the economy? They might spike employment statistics for a while but when the projects end so does the employment.
 
The left is convinced that the way to prosperity is to have government employees well paid for digging holes and other government employees well paid for filling them up.
 
The left is convinced that the way to prosperity is to have government employees well paid for digging holes and other government employees well paid for filling them up.

To Katzndogz: And they all get fat pensions.
 
The impoverished could not afford expensive lead-laden wines and food. Those Romans who governed the empire died off too quickly for the materially disadvantaged to govern a complex society, let alone hold onto a far-reaching empire. Put that in perspective by evaluating today’s Democrats and their contribution to America’s shrinking worldwide political empire. Democrats are the ones who wailed that America was losing respect in the world under Bush, yet philosophical “respect” pales in comparison to the real losses America’s foreign policy is causing under Socialism.

Vice President Chaney says it this way:

“I think our friends no longer count on us, no longer trust us and our adversaries don’t fear us,” he said.

Cheney: Mideast Allies No Longer Trust The US, Enemies ?Don?t Fear Us? « CBS DC
 
You're right.

I've never seen a corporate executive "produce" anything.

But they are great at sucking the cash out of the companies they work for..

Check out Mitt Romney!
 
I've never seen a corporate executive "produce" anything.

To Sallow: They produce products and services in addition to producing PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS that pay the taxes parasites live on. Parasites produce government jobs that absorb tax dollars. Note that America was at its greatest before 1913 and the XVI Amendment.

You’ve read enough of my messages to know that the parasite class is made up of everyone living on tax dollars who is not necessary to the day to day business of government. Necessary civil servants are not parasites.

Parasites are easily identified by the source of their incomes. If tax dollars constitute the major part of an individual’s income he or she is a parasite. So a millionaire/billionaire who absorbs tax dollars through special legislation, ripoffs, bailouts, etc., is as much of a parasite as is the welfare state hustler whose major income is derived from welfare state programs. Wealthy parasites are a tiny part of the corporate executives you find problematic, yet you have no objection to top Democrats and their friends getting richer on tax dollars.

Add in all of the parasites “earning” a living from tax dollar funded entities, receiving grants, subsidies, and tax breaks that are passed onto the public, and you have a good handle on how parasites operate. Top it all off with unnecessary and bloated bureaucracies and you’ve nailed down the parasite class.

Question you should ask yourself: Do I hate owners or just their managers? Before you answer remember this: In the early days of the labor movement in America the favorite labor union slogan said “Down with the hated boss.” never down with the hated owner. It was the earliest Socialists/Communists that made villains out of so-called robber barons.


But they are great at sucking the cash out of the companies they work for..

To Sallow: In a society of free people EMPLOYERS pay people to do their bidding. Basically, it’s slavery when you can order anyone about without paying them. Nobody forces the public to pay corporate executives, obey them, buy their products, invest in their companies, or work for them; whereas, the parasite class lives by forcing the producers to support them through excessive taxation. I gather from everything you’ve ever said in my threads that an owner does have the authority to hire the executives he chooses. If I follow your position to its inevitable conclusion the government alone has the authority to hire and fire corporate executives even before the government confiscates private property.

Free Americans were not forced to buy anything until after Socialists acquired political power. The Affordable Care Act is their crowning achievement. On the other hand, you and your kind do not object to the scum who get rich on tax dollars, nor do you object to the parasites in government that everybody is forced to support. Of course, you could be one of them. If that’s the case you should be honest about it and declare your status at the public trough.

I have a lot of support for my position. What do you have that competes with the following:


Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and given him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the “new wonderful good society” which shall now be Rome’s, interpreted to mean "more money, more ease, more security, and more living fatly at the expense of the industrious. Marcus Tullius Cicero

I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Ludlow, September 6, 1824

If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy. Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Cooper, Nov 29, 1802

The multiplication of public offices, increase of expense beyond income, growth and entailment of a public debt, are indications soliciting the employment of the pruning knife. Thomas Jefferson, letter to Spencer Roane, March 9, 1821

The same prudence which in private life would forbid our paying our own money for unexplained projects, forbids it in the dispensation of the public moneys. Thomas Jefferson, letter to Shelton Gilliam, June 19, 1808

They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please...Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect. Thomas Jefferson, Opinion on National Bank, 1791

The Utopian schemes of re-distribution of the wealth...are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the Crown. Samuel Adams

In the main it will be found that a power over a man’s support (salary) is a power over his will. Alexander Hamilton

I place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on will save one-half the wars of the world. Thomas Jefferson

The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale. Thomas Jefferson

Taxation follows public debt, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. Thomas Jefferson

Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. James Madison

Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian! Henry Ford

A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson/Barry Goldwater

Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. Thomas Jefferson

Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread. Thomas Jefferson

The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. Thomas Jefferson

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government, and I’m here to help. President Ronald Reagan

There is a constituency in the Congress that sees the tax code as a way to do favors for people which is a way to get elected that's not as obvious as actually writing them a check from the American people. Paul O'Neill, U.S. Treasury Secretary

The revenue creates pensioners, and the pensioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, luxury, foppery, selfishness, meanness, and downright venality swallow up the whole society.” John Adams

Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition. Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query 19, 1787

To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson

Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master. Dwight D. Eisenhower

When more of the people’s sustenance is exacted through the form of taxation than is necessary to meet the just obligations of government and the expense of its economical administration, such exaction becomes ruthless extortion and a violation of the fundamental principles of a free government. Grover Cleveland

In a free republic a great government is the product of a great people. They will look to themselves rather than government for success. The destiny, the greatness of America lies around the hearthstone. . . . Look well to the hearthstone; therein all hope for America lies. Calvin Coolidge
 
How any American can believe big government is the solution and not the problem, is troubling.

The parasitic class is growing rapidly and will ultimately bury us all into a cesspool of tyranny.
 
The great Walter Williams states this in his column...he is not optimistic about America's future...

Despite the fact that today’s increasing levels of federal government spending are unsustainable, there is little evidence that Americans have the willingness to do anything about it. Any politician who’d even talk about significantly reining in unsustainable entitlement spending would be run out of town. Any politician telling the American people they must pay higher taxes to support handout spending, instead of concealing spending through deficits and running up the national debt and inflation, would also be run out of town. Can you imagine what the American people would do to a presidential candidate who’d declare, as James Madison did in a 1794 speech to the House of Representatives, “Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government”?

If we are to be able to avoid ultimate collapse, it’s going to take a moral reawakening and renewed constitutional respect — not by politicians but by the American people. The prospect of that happening may be whistlin’ “Dixie.”
 
I suspect most Republicans are parasites. Otherwise they would stop trying to bribe billionaires into creating jobs. Instead, they could go to school and become qualified for something. Anything.

Why is it you dont see any Republicans working at mickyds and crying for a living wage?
Are those the kind of qualifications you're talking about?
I dont know about you but I think you're setting the bar kinda low. But then again I'm seeing it through conservative eyes. It may look like a pole vault to a lib.
 
How any American can believe big government is the solution and not the problem, is troubling.

To gipper: I’ve wrestled with that question for decades. These two observations are the closest I ever came to an answer:

Envy is the foundation for every government’s authority. Flanders

Every generation produces fools who believe that a benign totalitarian government is possible. Flanders

The parasitic class is growing rapidly and will ultimately bury us all into a cesspool of tyranny.

To gipper: The inevitable terror and brutality come after parasite legislators codify their aggrandizing tyrannies by calling them RIGHTS. The Four Horsemen ride in as soon as enough parasites begin feasting on their “Rights.”

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I dont know about you but I think you're setting the bar kinda low. But then again I'm seeing it through conservative eyes. It may look like a pole vault to a lib.

To HereWeGoAgain: Good point.

In all fairness it’s hard to see anything clearly when one’s head is buried in the public trough.
 

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