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We know that time has some funny properties like time dilation where clocks in motion will read differently if there is a velocity difference between the two clocks. That is physical and can be measured.

Time perception is different. That is relative to each person, how old they are, what they are doing, and what they are planning to do. If you are a child, time seems to move more slowly than if you are older. That may be due to time units being a larger fraction of your life span when you are young. Or it may be due to the plasticity of a young mind vs a older mind.

There is the phenomenon of "time flying when you are having fun". And time dragging when you are in a bad or boring situation. That seems as real as time dilation.

There is time management, which is our attempt to get more tasks completed within some future time period.

As for time being linear vs a circle IMO it has to be linear. It makes for cool movies to be able to travel forward or backward in time but the paradoxes time travel creates don't make sense.
Thank you, MarathonMike, for your beautiful and insightful post. I'm well aware of the various physical actualities of time in terms of speed and perspective, and your observation regarding the perception of time relative to experience and age, your thesis regarding the direction and movement of time, with which I agree, are sucient and eloquent. Masterfully done.
 

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We know that time has some funny properties like time dilation where clocks in motion will read differently if there is a velocity difference between the two clocks. That is physical and can be measured.

Time perception is different. That is relative to each person, how old they are, what they are doing, and what they are planning to do. If you are a child, time seems to move more slowly than if you are older. That may be due to time units being a larger fraction of your life span when you are young. Or it may be due to the plasticity of a young mind vs a older mind.

There is the phenomenon of "time flying when you are having fun". And time dragging when you are in a bad or boring situation. That seems as real as time dilation.

There is time management, which is our attempt to get more tasks completed within some future time period.

As for time being linear vs a circle IMO it has to be linear. It makes for cool movies to be able to travel forward or backward in time but the paradoxes time travel creates don't make sense.
Thank you, MarathonMike, for your beautiful and insightful post. I'm well aware of the various physical actualities of time in terms of speed and perspective, and your observation regarding the perception of time relative to experience and age, your thesis regarding the direction and movement of time, with which I agree, are sucient and eloquent. Masterfully done.
Much appreciated Ringtone.
 

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Understanding time is already mind bobbling enough, really. I've always believed that God, who lives and moves in the eternal now, abides with us in heaven while somehow, simultaneously, maintaining a sense of linear time for us wherein we do not experience physical change, but linear being and memory. Ultimately, time, psychologically, for us, is the linear flow of memory, wherein the future both entails fulfilments of past visions of expectations and surprises.
 
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All animals except humans live in a continual present, with no sense of the temporal distinctions of past, present and future. Our consciousness of time is therefore one of the most important distinguishing features of humankind, and one of the things that truly separates us from the lower animals. It comes as no surprise, then, that from time immemorial, philosophers, teachers and theologians have speculated on the true nature of time. Does time have a substance and, if so, what is it made of? How do we know that time really exists? Does time have a beginning and an end? Is it a straight line or a circle?

Philosophy of Time – Exactly What Is Time?

Ill say this..its absolutely true that time passes faster as you age.
 

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Time is just a measure, same as it is weight, volume, longitude, etc.

There is not an objective perception of time because time is just a concept.

One of the greatest frauds in science history is the infamous "dilatation of time" where malfunction of clocks has been taken as a magical behavior of a subjective time affected by the speed of objects. But the fantasy is going away and relativity and quantum mechanics with reference to time are superfluous ideas which are taken less seriously each day.

We do not even perceive time in subjective mode. We do have REMEMBRANCES of events, and we have IMAGINARY visions of what we might expect to come, but this is a behavior in our brain, nothing related to a universal flowing of time, which is not physically real at all.

We get use to routine, and we can wake up sharp at 6:00 am everyday, but this is not because a perception of time but a body used to wake up at the same time everyday.

The philosophy of time as flowing is just an illusion. When it takes 21 hours going from DC to Florida having breaks on Interstate 95, reality is that we have compared our traveling going South with the rotation of earth in reference to the Sun. That's all. That perception and comparison of both motions, ours and the earth's is what we call "time".

Even the bible indirectly defines time as such a comparison, when in the first days it is told for man to use the motion of the heavenly bodies as reference to set days and seasons. And that is exactly what we do, we use the motion of earth, moon and sun to set time.

With the atomic clock, we use the vibration frequency motion of the atom of Cesium to compare it with other motion or decay of particles and bodies.

Time, the eternal concept, the sure measure, the subjective forever, is a great tool, but that is the far time is about. The whole properties and characteristics like flowing and dilatation of time are just infantile thoughts invented in the past.

Today, we know time is just a concept. That's all.
 

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After reading this thread, I have come to the conclusion that Mindful is a Labrador retriever with access to a laptop computer.
 

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