Peter Wehner served 3 GOP admins: Everything Trump touches rots. The worst is yet to come.

[deanrd]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

 

[Penelope]

Well never thought much of the evangelicals and they are worst than I thought. They go to countries and create chaos and the US gov tries to save them. I say let them rot. You can tell by my sig what I think of them.

 

[Auld Phart]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

amazing

I've yet to hear a good word from you about either Bush, or Reagan, (or evangelicals), and yet, you're all hot and bothered about this guy.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

Peter who?

If nothing else, you people give them no choice. They cannot possibly support you.

Ergo ...

 

[Pete7469]

Good.

DC needs to rot and crumble away. It's a malignancy and if Trump continues to govern like Taz, he'll have made enough of a mess so that it can't bother us for a few more decades.

 

[Erinwltr]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

"I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. "

They don't give a rip anymore. Haven't for a long time. After decades of supporting Republican candidates for COTUS and POTUS, that have given lip service to their cause of over turning Roe V Wade and not putting justices on the courts that are ultra Bible Beaters, they are putting all their bets on POTUS of Tang.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

amazing

I've yet to hear a good word from you about either Bush, or Reagan, (or evangelicals), and yet, you're all hot and bothered about this guy.

if it can used against trump....thats all that matters to dean ......

 

[deanrd]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

amazing

I've yet to hear a good word from you about either Bush, or Reagan, (or evangelicals), and yet, you're all hot and bothered about this guy.

Even though Bush and Reagan were strictly for rich, white America, they also came across as men of character and integrity.
They believed that helping the wealthy was good for America.
They believed the middle class and the poor didn't deserve help, only the wealthy.

But as wrong as they were, they believed it was good for the country. It was about protecting the United States.

Trump believes in what is good for Trump. He doesn't care about this country. He cares about what Putin thinks of him. Trump cares about making as much money as possible for as long has he's president.

Come on people. Do you think Trump has character and integrity?
Do you believe he is honorable and honest?
If you believe he is, why? What are his character traits that leads you to believe such things?

 

[deanrd]

Trump is having a huge dinner at the White House with Evangelical leaders.

Donald Trump Hosting Evangelical Leaders at the White House | Breitbart

What do you think is going through his mind when he bows his head in pretend prayer?

 

[deanrd]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

amazing

I've yet to hear a good word from you about either Bush, or Reagan, (or evangelicals), and yet, you're all hot and bothered about this guy.

if it can used against trump....thats all that matters to dean ......

Wow, the idiot speaks. And the first thing he says is a lie. Nothing new there.
I served because this country matters to me.

You served. But in the Soviet Military. Someplace else entirely.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

amazing

I've yet to hear a good word from you about either Bush, or Reagan, (or evangelicals), and yet, you're all hot and bothered about this guy.

if it can used against trump....thats all that matters to dean ......

Wow, the idiot speaks. And the first thing he says is a lie. Nothing new there.
I served because this country matters to me.

You served. But in the Soviet Military. Someplace else entirely.

Wow, the idiot speaks.
you saw what dean posted too?.....

 

[caddo kid]

in the gospel Jesus states that one cannot serve two masters, yet the Evangelicals that support Trump desire to serve multiple masters.

If these people truly believe the book of faith they claim, then they will understand that they will eventually be burning in Hell for their open & vocal support of such a demonic, Satanic, false prophet.

IMO those that are seriously faithful should never openly endorse, or openly support ANY political candidate. The mixing of religious faith & politics is an invitation to ruin.

 

[deanrd]

Well never thought much of the evangelicals and they are worst than I thought. They go to countries and create chaos and the US gov tries to save them. I say let them rot. You can tell by my sig what I think of them.

They are so wrapped up in what they imagine is their religion, they believe they are doing good.
Their leadership tells them they are on God's side. If given free reign, they would be just as violent as the Sunni and Shiite.

 

[deanrd]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
-----------------
Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

amazing

I've yet to hear a good word from you about either Bush, or Reagan, (or evangelicals), and yet, you're all hot and bothered about this guy.

if it can used against trump....thats all that matters to dean ......

Wow, the idiot speaks. And the first thing he says is a lie. Nothing new there.
I served because this country matters to me.

You served. But in the Soviet Military. Someplace else entirely.

Wow, the idiot speaks.
you saw what dean posted too?.....

You see what I'm saying. You don't post anything of value. Nothing of discussion. You are a stench. A belch. You don't add anything positive, ever. You have somehow fixated on me and follow me around like a dog and constantly try to sniff my butt. But no matter how hard you are kicked, you don't get the message.
You are so sad. And don't even realize it.
As sad as you are on this board, you are probably just as sad where ever you are. How could you be otherwise. A creature of nothing of value. It truly is sad because of the waste.

 

[miketx]

 

[deanrd]

in the gospel Jesus states that one cannot serve two masters, yet the Evangelicals that support Trump desire to serve multiple masters.

If these people truly believe the book of faith they claim, then they will understand that they will eventually be burning in Hell for their open & vocal support of such a demonic, Satanic, false prophet.

IMO those that are seriously faithful should never openly endorse, or openly support ANY political candidate. The mixing of religious faith & politics is an invitation to ruin.

I think it's two groups.

One group making a deal with the devil because they truly believe they are doing God's work.

The other group believes they will lead Trump to God.

It's their definition of what God is that is terrifying.

 

[miketx]

The Full-Spectrum Corruption of Donald Trump

an incredible op ed from Peter Wehner. But it's not free.

The Last Temptation

Trump’s background and beliefs could hardly be more incompatible with traditional Christian models of life and leadership. Trump’s past political stances (he once supported the right to partial-birth abortion), his character (he has bragged about sexually assaulting women), and even his language (he introduced the words pussy and shithole into presidential discourse) would more naturally lead religious conservatives toward exorcism than alliance. This is a man who has cruelly publicized his infidelities, made disturbing sexual comments about his elder daughter, and boasted about the size of his penis on the debate stage. His lawyer reportedly arranged a $130,000 payment to a porn star to dissuade her from disclosing an alleged affair. Yet religious conservatives who once blanched at PG-13 public standards now yawn at such NC-17 maneuvers. We are a long way from The Book of Virtues.

According to Jerry Falwell Jr., evangelicals have “found their dream president,” which says something about the current quality of evangelical dreams.

Falwell and Franklin Graham followed Trump’s lead in supporting Judge Roy Moore in the December Senate election in Alabama. These are religious leaders who have spent their entire adult lives bemoaning cultural and moral decay. Yet they publicly backed a candidate who was repeatedly accused of sexual misconduct, including with a 14-year-old girl.

But the timing and emphasis of evangelical responses have contributed to a broad sense that evangelical political engagement is negative, censorious, and oppositional. This funneled focus has also created the damaging impression that Christians are obsessed with sex. Much of the secular public hears from Christians only on issues of sexuality—from contraceptive mandates to gay rights to transgender bathroom usage.

Moreover, in making their case on cultural decay and decline, evangelicals have, in some highly visible cases, chosen the wrong nightmares. Most notable, they made a crucial error in picking evolution as a main point of contention with modernity. “The contest between evolution and Christianity is a duel to the death,” William Jennings Bryan argued. “If evolution wins … Christianity goes—not suddenly, of course, but gradually, for the two cannot stand together.” Many people of his background believed this. But their resistance was futile, for one incontrovertible reason: Evolution is a fact. It is objectively true based on overwhelming evidence. By denying this, evangelicals made their entire view of reality suspect. They were insisting, in effect, that the Christian faith requires a flight from reason.

Evangelicals Are Divided on Trump After Charlottesville
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Regardless of when Trump leaves office, regardless of his damage to this country, he will have damaged the Evangelicals even more.

Peter Wehner, who worked for three GOP administrations was raised evangelical. He said Republicans have always stood for ethics, morality and leadership. Remember when Character mattered? Decency, integrity? There is no longer any interest in honor.

After the "magical creation" fight against evolution, many Evangelicals were seen as wacko and hating science. And now that they support such a man and everything he stands for, how are things going to be moving forward for their religion.

I don't think the Evangelicals supporting Trump have figured out how much Trump has hurt their religion in the eyes of the American people. They will forever be tied to supporting what Trump stands for. Defining what Trump stands for will test what Evangelicals say they stand for.

amazing

I've yet to hear a good word from you about either Bush, or Reagan, (or evangelicals), and yet, you're all hot and bothered about this guy.

if it can used against trump....thats all that matters to dean ......

Wow, the idiot speaks. And the first thing he says is a lie. Nothing new there.
I served because this country matters to me.

You served. But in the Soviet Military. Someplace else entirely.

Wow, the idiot speaks.
you saw what dean posted too?.....

You see what I'm saying. You don't post anything of value. Nothing of discussion. You are a stench. A belch. You don't add anything positive, ever. You have somehow fixated on me and follow me around like a dog and constantly try to sniff my butt. But no matter how hard you are kicked, you don't get the message.
You are so sad. And don't even realize it.
As sad as you are on this board, you are probably just as sad where ever you are. How could you be otherwise. A creature of nothing of value. It truly is sad because of the waste.

You sound as though you are describing your posts to a Tee.

 

[deanrd]

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Wow. A cartoon. How smart.

 

[deanrd]

amazing

I've yet to hear a good word from you about either Bush, or Reagan, (or evangelicals), and yet, you're all hot and bothered about this guy.

if it can used against trump....thats all that matters to dean ......

Wow, the idiot speaks. And the first thing he says is a lie. Nothing new there.
I served because this country matters to me.

You served. But in the Soviet Military. Someplace else entirely.

Wow, the idiot speaks.
you saw what dean posted too?.....

You see what I'm saying. You don't post anything of value. Nothing of discussion. You are a stench. A belch. You don't add anything positive, ever. You have somehow fixated on me and follow me around like a dog and constantly try to sniff my butt. But no matter how hard you are kicked, you don't get the message.
You are so sad. And don't even realize it.
As sad as you are on this board, you are probably just as sad where ever you are. How could you be otherwise. A creature of nothing of value. It truly is sad because of the waste.

You sound as though you are describing your posts to a Tee.

Clearly you haven't read them.

 

[miketx]

if it can used against trump....thats all that matters to dean ......

Wow, the idiot speaks. And the first thing he says is a lie. Nothing new there.
I served because this country matters to me.

You served. But in the Soviet Military. Someplace else entirely.

Wow, the idiot speaks.
you saw what dean posted too?.....

You see what I'm saying. You don't post anything of value. Nothing of discussion. You are a stench. A belch. You don't add anything positive, ever. You have somehow fixated on me and follow me around like a dog and constantly try to sniff my butt. But no matter how hard you are kicked, you don't get the message.
You are so sad. And don't even realize it.
As sad as you are on this board, you are probably just as sad where ever you are. How could you be otherwise. A creature of nothing of value. It truly is sad because of the waste.

You sound as though you are describing your posts to a Tee.

Clearly you haven't read them.

I have read a few of your nonsense never ending deranged rants, but don't anymore. i'd have to be crazy to read your ignorant infantile bullshit.