Pete Hegseth lashes out at 'kill them all' report on boat strikes

[Lesh]

He said she said.

You’re a moron

 

[OODA_Loop]

What would a purpose built open vessel of a design commonly known and encountered as smuggling vessels, with 4 high power outboards, drums of fuel to extend range, bales of some sort in a known drug route evading interdiction at a high rate of speed
be doing?

What left-leaning poster can answer this?

 

[Lesh]

Wow. That was sad.

You didn't ask for a legal definition - you asked for -a- definition.
I supplied one. It proved my point.

Try harder.

Considering that we’re taking about LEGAL MATTERS here

Ahhh just STFU

 

[OODA_Loop]

That’s not what the press secretary said. She said Hesgeth authorized the second strike and Admiral Bradley conveyed that order

Soon all you want but it’s right there

What time stamp did she say Hegseth authorized the second strike?

 

[Delldude]

You’re a moron

That's the best you can do.....

Speculation is all you have.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Considering that we’re taking about LEGAL MATTERS here

You have no idea if that is true or not.

 

[Lesh]

What would a purpose built open vessel of a design commonly known and encountered as smuggling vessels, with 4 high power outboards, drums of fuel to extend range, bales of some sort in a known drug route evading interdiction at a high rate of speed
be doing?

What left-leaning poster can answer this?

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No one is disputing f that it was a drug boat jackass.

Also no one has shown any evidence that it was carrying fentanyl (which was the initial justification for this mess).

Now go babble somewhere else

 

[forkup]

Oh, and you did not at all address this:

-You- argue the responsibility for rescuing survivors exists -during- the engagement, that to wait until the engagement is over violates the law -- that you have to take the crew off before you can follow up on a burning and un-moving target

Show the words.

Commanders and their subordinates shall take all feasible measures to protect persons in peril at sea, including survivors of damaged or disabled vessels.

This directly addresses it. Just because you don't acknowledge it doesn't mean it isn't addressed. By your own acknowledgement an claim by the way you still haven't supported the boat was "crippled and on fire" meaning that it was at least damaged and probably disabled making it NOT a valid target.

 

[M14 Shooter]

That boat was at that point going nowhere.
The engagement was over

Why do you believe your judgement to be more sound than the officers in charge of making such determinations and issuing the necessary follow-up orders, in accordance with the given objectives?

 

[Lesh]

You have no idea if that is true or not.

No idea that this concerns legal matters?

How drunk are you?

 

[Delldude]

Considering that we’re taking about LEGAL MATTERS here

You haven't a clue what laws these actions are under

Pure speculation.

 

[Stann]

If the video ends up showing that there was a second dronestrike on swimmers after the boat was completely under water, I would object to that.

Those gaddam drones cost a buttload of money!

Drop some chum in the water and let nature take its course.

This was an extreme action , going against everything the military stands for. It most likely was a sad attempt to cover up a very bad mistake. Wake up already !

 

[M14 Shooter]

This directly addresses it. Just because you don't acknowledge it doesn't mean it isn't addressed.

You have devolved to pre-K "I know you are but what am I".
Took longer than I thought, but you got there.

 

[OODA_Loop]

No one is disputing f that it was a drug boat jackass.

Also no one has shown any evidence that it was carrying fentanyl (which was the initial justification for this mess).

Now go babble somewhere else

So what other drugs are acceptable to smuggle into the US in your sage estimation?

 

[Seymour Flops]

This was an extreme action , going against everything the military stands for. It most likely was a sad attempt to cover up a very bad mistake. Wake up already !

It was a strike against a hostile foreign force speeding toward our shore.

What's to cover up?

 

[Delldude]

Also no one has shown any evidence that it was carrying fentanyl (which was the initial justification for this mess).

That wasn't the sole justification you clown.

 

[forkup]

Wow. That was sad.

You didn't ask for a legal definition - you asked for -a- definition.
I supplied one. It proved my point.

Try harder.

When you're contesting the definition that is used by the Geneva Convention by going to one that Wikipedia provides the only thing you're doing is that you are not doing a legal analysis but what I call turd polishing. Doesn't matter if you're providing a good argument ANY argument will do.

A guardhouse lawyer, and not a particularly good one.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The Venezualan Coast Guard needs to escort their drug vessels, if they want their mules rescued after being blasted.

 

[Rogue AI]

So Pete throws the Admiral under the bus?

These troops better watch their asses

The admiral that was in charge? That seems far more likely than Sec of War doing it. Try thinking, or at least in your case, pretend to.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Everything here is speculation.

Someone gave the order.

That's not speculation.

Leavitt won't deny Hegseth gave the order and said he authorized the attacks.

Hmm, wonder who gave the order?

No I don't.