Perry's Announcement- no wonder the Obamabots are scared!

[The Rabbi]

Eddie, budd, you can try to paint the numbers anyway you want, but nearly everyone I know tells me that their lives were a LOT better under Bush than they are under the Community Organizers...

"Nearly everyone I know" is a rather horrible statistical sample. I care how my friends are doing, but they aren't a representative sample of the populace, and I doubt your friends are either. It is true that the economy has been much worse under Obama than under Bush, but this is more despite Obama's policies than because of them.

Returning to the thread topic, I think Perry would be very formidable in the general election. He's less gaffe-prone than Bachmann and more likable than Romney. He certainly presents a clear contrast to Obama, though equally certain he is far to the right of the median voter.

It is absurd to state the economy is the way it is despite Obama's policies. That indicates his policies are ineffective, at best.
The truth is the economy is the way it is because of Obama's policies. Either way, it doesn't look too good. He is either ineffective or destructive. Take your pick.

Perry has more executive experience than Obama does today. He connects well with voters. He genuinely likes people and that comes through. Obama genuinely feels superior to people, and that comes through too.
Perry has a vision of the US as one of limited government with more power to the states. After the nightmares of obamacare and his reg a minute regimes, the public will find that attractive.

 

[Avorysuds]

Perry might get raped... What I mean is he will have a giant target on him so he better be fucking awesome or he will burn. We'll see how it goes.

Ron Fuckin Paul 2012 bitchz!

 

[The Rabbi]

Perry might get raped... What I mean is he will have a giant target on him so he better be fucking awesome or he will burn. We'll see how it goes.

Ron Fuckin Paul 2012 bitchz!

Perry will get the shit kicked out of him by the MSM for things he did in second grade if they can find it. He knows that. He knows that politics is. He isnt a quitter, like another rumored candidate.
The Obama camp's strategy will be to run the most ugly negative campaign you've ever seen. They'll have Perry in white sheets with a George Bush mask. They'll accuse Perry of drinking human blood.
With any luck it will be so over the top the public will turn off the MSM in total disgust and elect Perry just to spite Obama.

 

[Avorysuds]

Perry might get raped... What I mean is he will have a giant target on him so he better be fucking awesome or he will burn. We'll see how it goes.

Ron Fuckin Paul 2012 bitchz!

Perry will get the shit kicked out of him by the MSM for things he did in second grade if they can find it. He knows that. He knows that politics is. He isnt a quitter, like another rumored candidate.
The Obama camp's strategy will be to run the most ugly negative campaign you've ever seen. They'll have Perry in white sheets with a George Bush mask. They'll accuse Perry of drinking human blood.
With any luck it will be so over the top the public will turn off the MSM in total disgust and elect Perry just to spite Obama.

Can I get some infoz on Rick and how close are Rick and Ron Paul on many issues?

 

[bodecea]

Perry might get raped... What I mean is he will have a giant target on him so he better be fucking awesome or he will burn. We'll see how it goes.

Ron Fuckin Paul 2012 bitchz!

Perry will get the shit kicked out of him by the MSM for things he did in second grade if they can find it. He knows that. He knows that politics is. He isnt a quitter, like another rumored candidate.
The Obama camp's strategy will be to run the most ugly negative campaign you've ever seen. They'll have Perry in white sheets with a George Bush mask. They'll accuse Perry of drinking human blood.
With any luck it will be so over the top the public will turn off the MSM in total disgust and elect Perry just to spite Obama.

Let us know when that happens as you predicted...okay?

 

[yidnar]

What is the Republican fascination with thinking Democrats are scared. When I criticize politicians...and keep in mind I'm an Independent fiscal conservative and social Libertarian...I never criticize people because I'm afraid of them. Fear never has anything to do with it.

When Dems and Independents criticize Palin, Bachmann, Perry, or people like Angle and O'Donnell...they don't sound afraid to me. They seem joyous about the fact that these people consistantly embarras themselves and the GOP...or they're happy because a politican has a lot of weaknesses like Perry.

One study I saw, and I take these with a grain of salt, showed that Liberals were better at negotiating complex issues, and Conservatives were better at identifying threats. It's natural for people to think others share their traits, so I guess I'm not surprised that conservatives think liberals are afraid when they criticize, because conservatives are afraid when they criticize.

you sure as hell sound like a liberal!!!.....IN LEFT WING IDEOLOGY TRUTH"S AND UNTRUTH"S ARE A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE AND OPINION.....

 

[The Rabbi]

Perry might get raped... What I mean is he will have a giant target on him so he better be fucking awesome or he will burn. We'll see how it goes.

Ron Fuckin Paul 2012 bitchz!

Perry will get the shit kicked out of him by the MSM for things he did in second grade if they can find it. He knows that. He knows that politics is. He isnt a quitter, like another rumored candidate.
The Obama camp's strategy will be to run the most ugly negative campaign you've ever seen. They'll have Perry in white sheets with a George Bush mask. They'll accuse Perry of drinking human blood.
With any luck it will be so over the top the public will turn off the MSM in total disgust and elect Perry just to spite Obama.

Let us know when that happens as you predicted...okay?

Who would have predicted that Democrats would accuse the GOP of wanting people to die, or throwing grandma off the cliff?

 

[rdean]

Here are some excerpts from Governor Perry's announcement today.


Rick Perry for President | Why I’m Running

"What I learned in my 20’s traveling the globe as an Air Force pilot, our current president has yet to acknowledge in his 50’s – that we are the most exceptional nation on the face of the earth.

"As Americans, we believe freedom is a gift from God, and government’s prime function is to defend it. We don’t see the role of government as a nanny state, and we recognize there is no government money that wasn’t once earned through the sweat and toil of private citizens.

The change we seek will never emanate out of Washington…it must come from the windswept prairies of Middle America…the farms and factories across this great land…the hearts and minds of God-fearing Americans who will not accept a future that is less than our past…who will not be consigned a fate of less freedom in exchange for more government.

It is up to us…to this present generation of Americans…to take a stand for freedom…to send a signal to Washington that we are taking the country back from the grips of central planners who would control our healthcare, spend our treasure and micro-manage our businesses.

My mission as your president will be to get America working again!

With God’s help, and your courage, we will take our country back."

Yup, this is the guy!

Of course we're scared. He wants to FINISH the job Bush and the Republicans started.

 

[edthecynic]

Perry will get the shit kicked out of him by the MSM for things he did in second grade if they can find it. He knows that. He knows that politics is. He isnt a quitter, like another rumored candidate.
The Obama camp's strategy will be to run the most ugly negative campaign you've ever seen. They'll have Perry in white sheets with a George Bush mask. They'll accuse Perry of drinking human blood.
With any luck it will be so over the top the public will turn off the MSM in total disgust and elect Perry just to spite Obama.

Let us know when that happens as you predicted...okay?

Who would have predicted that Democrats would accuse the GOP of wanting people to die, or throwing grandma off the cliff?

Yeah, play that perpetual VICTIM card, child. Only CON$ can accuse people of creating DEATH PANNELS, it's Right in the CON$ervative CON$titution.

 

[Rinata]

Unlike the Community Organizer, Gov. Perry has a record to run on.

Yes, he certainly does. Here is some of it:

Rick Perry's 'Texas Miracle' Includes Crowded Homeless Shelters, Low-Wage Jobs, Worker Deaths

Perry will be spending a lot of his time on the stump. Dig beneath the talking points and you will find a troubling picture: rising unemployment, a glut of low-wage jobs without benefits, overcrowded homeless shelters and public schools facing billions in budget cuts.
"If you want a bad job, go to Texas," said Texas Rep. Garnet Coleman (D), who represents a district in Houston, in an interview with The Huffington Post. "If you want to work at Carl's Jr., our doors are open, and if you want to go to a crumbling school in a failing school system, this is the place to come."

Texas is struggling right along with every other state. According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, Texas had recently bumped up to 8.2 percent unemployment in June which puts it below the national average. In May, job growth slowed statewide. According to a recent report in the Houston Chronicle, Houston's not seasonally adjusted unemployment rate jumped to 9 percent. The unemployment rate has hit double digits in the Rio Grande Valley. In Hildago County, it's 12 percent. Quality of life indexes like child poverty rates put Texas further behind. State Sen. Judith Zaffirini (D) told The Huffington Post her state ranks 48th in teen birth rates, 50th in prenatal care and 46th in income disparity and 50th in the number of persons who receive a high school diploma by age 25.

Of the all the jobs in Texas created last year, 37 percent paid at or below minimum wage -- and the state leads the nation in total minimum wage workers, according to a recent New York Times report.

"The important thing to do is not to just count jobs but to look at what kinds of jobs are being created in Texas," explained Dick Lavine, a Senior Fiscal Analyst with the Center for Public Policy Priorities. "Texas is tied for last with Mississippi for the highest percentage of minimum wage jobs and Texas is by far the leader of residents who don't have health insurance. It's low wage jobs without any benefits."

When it comes to budget gaps, Texas is just like much of the rest of the country. This year, the state faced a projected budget shortfall totaling as much as $27 billion; the legislature also had to contend with a $4.3 billion deficit in its current budget. The state made massive across-the-board cuts to state agencies -- including $4 billion in public school cuts over two years. Perry and the state legislature also ended up closing out funding for pre-kindergarten programs for roughly 100,000 low-income children. Mass layoffs of public sector workers is expected.

Rick Perry's 'Texas Miracle' Includes Crowded Homeless Shelters, Low-Wage Jobs, Worker Deaths

I hope you will read the rest of this article that I couldn't post. In any case, I think Rick Perry is another GWB, actually worse in some ways.

Yeah, no other state has crowded shelters, low wage jobs and worker deaths.

THAT is your only comment??? Silly me. Of course it is.

 

[Rinata]

Perry might get raped... What I mean is he will have a giant target on him so he better be fucking awesome or he will burn. We'll see how it goes.

Ron Fuckin Paul 2012 bitchz!

Perry will get the shit kicked out of him by the MSM for things he did in second grade if they can find it. He knows that. He knows that politics is. He isnt a quitter, like another rumored candidate.
The Obama camp's strategy will be to run the most ugly negative campaign you've ever seen. They'll have Perry in white sheets with a George Bush mask. They'll accuse Perry of drinking human blood.
With any luck it will be so over the top the public will turn off the MSM in total disgust and elect Perry just to spite Obama.

Very good!! I believe in planning ahead!!! So nothing that turns up in his background will be true. All made up by the MSM, right?? Now that means anything positive OR negative, I hope. Is that correct??

 

[JoeB131]

Eddie, budd, you can try to paint the numbers anyway you want, but nearly everyone I know tells me that their lives were a LOT better under Bush than they are under the Community Organizers...

"Nearly everyone I know" is a rather horrible statistical sample. I care how my friends are doing, but they aren't a representative sample of the populace, and I doubt your friends are either. It is true that the economy has been much worse under Obama than under Bush, but this is more despite Obama's policies than because of them.

Returning to the thread topic, I think Perry would be very formidable in the general election. He's less gaffe-prone than Bachmann and more likable than Romney. He certainly presents a clear contrast to Obama, though equally certain he is far to the right of the median voter.

To my mind, the people I know are the only ones who count because they are the only ones I care about.

No, Things are worse BECAUSE of Obama, not despite him. Nearly everything he's done has been a job-killer, from threatening Card Check to imposing ObamaCare to threatening to eat the rich.

Perry will mop the floor with Obama, and with taking the senate and padding our majority in the House, we can finally clean up this country of its liberal filth.

 

[California Girl]

No so long ago, I listened as a man who would be President said "There is no black America. There is no white America. There is the United States of America." I thought to myself 'cool, that is the kind of America I want'.

Then I got his record as Senator. "present", "present", "present". And I thought 'this is not the kind of man I want as President". Then at the first opportunity, he and his followers made his skin color an issue. Those of us who disagreed with him were "typical white people."

I was right.

Words are cheap. Perry made a good speech. But words are meaningless drivel without the action. If nothing else, Obama should have taught us that.

 

[JoeB131]

No so long ago, I listened as a man who would be President said "There is no black America. There is no white America. There is the United States of America." I thought to myself 'cool, that is the kind of America I want'.

Then I got his record as Senator. "present", "present", "present". And I thought 'this is not the kind of man I want as President". Then at the first opportunity, he and his followers made his skin color an issue. Those of us who disagreed with him were "typical white people."

I was right.

Words are cheap. Perry made a good speech. But words are meaningless drivel without the action. If nothing else, Obama should have taught us that.

That you believe the whole mythology of "Obama voted Present" kind of tells me you aren't as informed as you think you are.

He voted "Present" on 3% of roll calls in the IL legistlature, which is about average. Voting present usually means, "I might vote for your legislation, if you make some changes", and everyone does it.

There were a whole bunch of other signs that ths guy was going to be the disaster he was, but that wasn't one of them.

Now, that said, yes, Perry gave a good speech, but more importantly, he has the record on jobs, on accomplishment, on leadership to back it up.

 

[old navy]

All the candidates have things in their record that they will have to account for. One of Obama's advantages three years ago was that he had no record, per se. That will not be the case this time though.

 

[California Girl]

No so long ago, I listened as a man who would be President said "There is no black America. There is no white America. There is the United States of America." I thought to myself 'cool, that is the kind of America I want'.

Then I got his record as Senator. "present", "present", "present". And I thought 'this is not the kind of man I want as President". Then at the first opportunity, he and his followers made his skin color an issue. Those of us who disagreed with him were "typical white people."

I was right.

Words are cheap. Perry made a good speech. But words are meaningless drivel without the action. If nothing else, Obama should have taught us that.

That you believe the whole mythology of "Obama voted Present" kind of tells me you aren't as informed as you think you are.

He voted "Present" on 3% of roll calls in the IL legistlature, which is about average. Voting present usually means, "I might vote for your legislation, if you make some changes", and everyone does it.

There were a whole bunch of other signs that ths guy was going to be the disaster he was, but that wasn't one of them.

Now, that said, yes, Perry gave a good speech, but more importantly, he has the record on jobs, on accomplishment, on leadership to back it up.

I make it my business to be informed - properly informed, not media spin informed - on candidates. So, please don't waste your insults on me. They are meaningless.

I saw, and paid attention to, the signs that Obama would be a clusterfuck as POTUS. Which is why I didn't vote for him. I saw the same signs with McCain, which is why I didn't vote for him either. In fact, I dislike the GOP almost as much as I dislike the Democrats.

If the GOP wants the votes of those who don't buy their bullshit, they are gonna have to come up with someone who' record is as good as their pretty speeches. I hate fucking speeches.

 

[JoeB131]

Well, it strikes me you hate a lot of things... and maybe you should see someone about that.

 

[The Rabbi]

No so long ago, I listened as a man who would be President said "There is no black America. There is no white America. There is the United States of America." I thought to myself 'cool, that is the kind of America I want'.

Then I got his record as Senator. "present", "present", "present". And I thought 'this is not the kind of man I want as President". Then at the first opportunity, he and his followers made his skin color an issue. Those of us who disagreed with him were "typical white people."

I was right.

Words are cheap. Perry made a good speech. But words are meaningless drivel without the action. If nothing else, Obama should have taught us that.

Perry has a 10 year plus record of public service that was well documented in the press. It is amazing that "he gave a good speech" is now a negative attribute.
Obama was an empty suit. Some of us knew that from the beginning. He had no executive experience, he had little responsibility at all.
But that doesn't make Perry like Obama. In fact, that makes Perry the anti-Obama.

 

[gautama]

I thought we would have learned our lesson that talk is cheap after watching Obama in action.

This guy has a record ....... and it ain't no "COMMUNITY ORGANIZER (read RABBLE ROUSER) from a Criminal Enterprise indicted in ~ 15 States by the FBI (and they don't move until their facts are pristine), called ACORN !!!

This guy ain't no Sambo Obambo, a fucking LOSER & a MONUMENTAL Marxist, Racist, Muslim Protecting FRAUD !!!

 

[Seawytch]

How does Texas like Perry?